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Halser posted:Overconfidence I guess Either a severe case of overconfidence or... PF was getting really near something very very serious for the Bolsonaros and not replacing Valeixo was really not an option
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Plutonis posted:Why is that account posting it though, that is an artist for Brasil 247 (Pro PT site) I assume it's like nearly every other boomer account on which it can sometimes rt jokeposts and so on.
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bolsonaro is going to push back soon and it will be fun to see moro was in full opposition mode and way harsher than I expected and it might have been an unexpected move from him catching bolsonaro unprepared
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nerdz posted:bolsonaro is going to push back soon and it will be fun to see Yep https://twitter.com/jairbolsonaro/status/1253724196003295232
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The thing is: there is nothing that Bolsonaro can possibly say that would make him look better, but his dumbass is way too blind to see this. This would be a nightmare even for a skilled politician, and we are talking about probably the dumbest world leader we have ever seen.
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Apr 24, 2020 18:27
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bolsonaro still thinks he can trump this out, but he is no trump
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dead gay comedy forums posted:bolsonaro still thinks he can trump this out, but he is no trump This still amazes me. Trump is always painted as the retarded brain-worms president, but he managed to make the republican establishment into his bitch. Why is Bolsonaro so ineffectual? He had a supermajority on congress AND a majority on senate, and managed to squander it all following crazy people like Olavo de Carvalho. It really amazes me comparing the two dumb presidents, and maybe it's just my vira-lata complex, but our seems to be orders of magnitude dumber
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spivak posted:This still amazes me. Trump is always painted as the retarded brain-worms president, but he managed to make the republican establishment into his bitch. Why is Bolsonaro so ineffectual? He had a supermajority on congress AND a majority on senate, and managed to squander it all following crazy people like Olavo de Carvalho. It really amazes me comparing the two dumb presidents, and maybe it's just my vira-lata complex, but our seems to be orders of magnitude dumber brazil seems like a much harder country to not govern - there are different bases of power, and bolsie seems to have convictions that trump just doesn't so trump can say whatever and let his cobble of plutocrats run the country for their own benefit, actually following through on that stuff means having to cross powerful interests. bolsonaro is loving up by putting actions to his words, basically
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spivak posted:This still amazes me. Trump is always painted as the retarded brain-worms president, but he managed to make the republican establishment into his bitch. Why is Bolsonaro so ineffectual? He had a supermajority on congress AND a majority on senate, and managed to squander it all following crazy people like Olavo de Carvalho. It really amazes me comparing the two dumb presidents, and maybe it's just my vira-lata complex, but our seems to be orders of magnitude dumber A large part of it is the fact that Brazil is a multiparty system and doesn't use districts. Republicans fall behind Trump because if they cross him he will boost a primary challenger. There isn't the same disciplining mechanism in Brazil, because since its not district level voting you don't get to vote against someone, and if a party removes you from commissions and committees, you just jump to another party.
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spivak posted:Trump is always painted as the retarded brain-worms president Trump is a savant, much like Dustin Hoffmann's famous character in Rain Man Bolsonaro is just a loving dumbass
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I feel like US politics are extremely disfunctional in a "stability at all costs for the status quo" way while ours is the exact opposite
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Also Im very curious to see who Bolsonaro is going to find to replace Moro Anyone who gets his job now will have no credibility whatsoever
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and the panelaço begins again
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1253776864184872960 lmao
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He is claiming that he turned off the heating of his pool to lead by example. Jesus, this is dumb as gently caress
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Apr 24, 2020 21:17
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He is talking about Inmetro, what a dumbass
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nerdz posted:I feel like US politics are extremely disfunctional in a "stability at all costs for the status quo" way while ours is the exact opposite going through this angle I would say that both are very similar, however, for the USA is the maintenance of the neoliberal order through their control over international capital, while in our case is to never leave the condition of a secondary exploitation economy every single leadership that attempted otherwise was pretty much considered heinous in every account: Vargas, Kubitschek (who was loving lmao a liberal) and Lula were responsible for trying different things in a national stage and welp (there is Arthur Bernardes too, who kinda predicted the Great Depression and defended a massive industrial effort along with an agricultural revolution in the Cerrado hinterlands in order to achieve economic independence)
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The whole thing is just unbelievable edit: https://twitter.com/pblnns/status/1253786070354886657
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very weak showing from bolsonaro, clearly caught with his pants down. unspinnable. almost makes me hopeful here we'll see if moro is going to take further steps from now on to posture himself as opposition or just gently caress off, I'll take either
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Well, he basically called Moro a liar an accused him of blackmail. Also confessed everything Moro accused him for, and than denied everything. It was that and half an hour of incoherent babbling And Moro is already firing back https://twitter.com/SF_Moro/status/1253793469627326464
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lmao Maia can get them owned by next week if he wants to
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Elias_Maluco posted:Well, he basically called Moro a liar an accused him of blackmail. Also confessed everything Moro accused him for, and than denied everything. It was that and half an hour of incoherent babbling just absolutely unforced errors like namedropping Marielle completely unprompted. Good move associating this speech and moment with her
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nerdz posted:just absolutely unforced errors like namedropping Marielle completely unprompted. Good move associating this speech and moment with her l m a o imagine him getting cross-examined by a psychoanalyst, rip
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Just gotta have to suck that government tit as long as you can It gave the dude a mansion in Brasilia after all
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just laughing at the minions on my FB that usually spam forwards all asking for people to stay calm and take some time to analyze the situation ie wait for the narrative push from whatsapp
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nerdz posted:just laughing at the minions on my FB that usually spam forwards all asking for people to stay calm and take some time to analyze the situation This seems unspinable though, as the poster above was saying. Like, there is no way to turn on Moro now without heavy losses, I would say
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There was a light attempt at trying to spin that here as him just being "someone else who left the administration" and trying to make his concerns somewhat petty When Compared To Corona, which means Bolso's influence still hasn't dissipated on the portuguese commentariat.
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Maan, Brazil is some WILD poo poo.
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Dias posted:Maan, Brazil is some WILD poo poo. sure is, this motherfucker for example is wearing socks to a live address to the nation https://twitter.com/menezes_barboza/status/1253791233803202560
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bagual posted:sure is, this motherfucker for example is wearing socks to a live address to the nation Covid's on fire Paulo Guedes is terrified man this country is such a trainwreck i don't even know how to react to poo poo anymore
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Dias posted:man this country is such a trainwreck i don't even know how to react to poo poo anymore Macunaíma and Tim Maia were extremely right all along the ultimate lesson about Brazil is that everything goes to poo poo if you decide to be extremely moral and serious about it thus I am eagerly awaiting the ultimate presidential campaign of the current republican era: Romário
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Christ, I still can't believe yesterday happened. Who'd have thought a country's self-destruction could be that crazy?
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Honestly, the political implosion is welcome, it's almost entertaining, it keeps me from stressing out about the pandemic or more important stuff like Babu's forthcoming elimination from BBB.
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It's so loving obvious globo is going to go full "Collor in 1989" levels of support for Moro president. That Moro had already interfered in favor of Bolsonaro in the PSL laranjas investigation has already been memoryholed.
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 goddamnit brazil i just woke up https://theintercept.com/2020/04/25/flavio-bolsonaro-rachadinha-financiou-milicia/ an expose on Flavio Bolsonaro having helped the Rio militia buy buildings illegally, according to an investigation The headline is a quote from Queiroz, his driver and probably accomplice: "A comet-sized dick" i love this country
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