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InouBattle didn't really fall apart, it just ended in a non-conclusory way. "But our journeys continue/buy the LN" kinda thing.
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Futaba Anzu posted:i guess one of the more specific defining memories i have in regards to this is that the AX that Trigger announced all three of their new properties they handed out signed illustrations for the three, Franxx, Gridman, and Promare off of a ping pong ball raffle. Back then he couldn't have known, but the guy who got the Gridman illustration was so visibly disappointed on camera that he missed out on the Franxx one lol
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IMO gridman had a terrible ending. The last like 10 seconds legit ruined the entire show for me
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Wark Say posted:IIRC, Franxx was a collab between Trigger and A-1 Pictures (I think that the studio that worked on Franxx eventually ended up becoming CloverWorks? And they did FGO Babylonia plus Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai), but someone here probably has a better idea on which studio did what and such. Nitrousoxide posted:IMO gridman had a terrible ending. The last like 10 seconds legit ruined the entire show for me
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Apr 26, 2020 13:53
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Endorph posted:it isnt really a studio thing, the directors just on record saying they had no real plan for the story as they went into production. It feels random and unfocused because they made it up as they went. Obviously not literally week to week, but there was no grand vision or anything. Its not on trigger or a-1.
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Endorph posted:I loved gridmans ending, what didnt you like about it? The whole it's all a dream thing immediately and completely ruined the show for me.
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Why was that a quote and not an edit.Nitrousoxide posted:The whole it's all a dream thing immediately and completely ruined the show for me. It wasn't 'all a dream' though, it was more like different worlds.
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Apr 26, 2020 14:00
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Endorph posted:it isnt really a studio thing, the directors just on record saying they had no real plan for the story as they went into production. It feels random and unfocused because they made it up as they went. Obviously not literally week to week, but there was no grand vision or anything 
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Apr 26, 2020 14:09
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Gridman's ending occupies this weird space in my mind where I like everything about it but wish the actual episode was about twice as long to let more plot threads breathe and touch on some other elements that they kind of had to skip over. Also yeah the digital world isn't fake, it's the digital world. That's the whole gist of classic Gridman too, after all.
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Apr 26, 2020 14:47
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Nate RFB posted:Gridman's ending occupies this weird space in my mind where I like everything about it but wish the actual episode was about twice as long to let more plot threads breathe and touch on some other elements that they kind of had to skip over. The entirety of SSSS.Gridman basically seems to take place in the span of a single OG Gridman episode. Yeah, I remember Crunchy's subs got it incorrect, but Rikka and the others are also explicitly called out as being akin to the natives of the digital world that popped up in one episode of the OG (like that lady who hung out with Anosillus the First). There's a lot of little elements that are calling back directly to the original show.
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And in a broader thematic sense, it's a metaphor for how fiction and the internet can be a source of toxic escapism that indulges your worse habits (Akane at the start) but also something that inspires you or allows you to view things from perspectives besides just your own (Akane at the end.) Fiction and the internet aren't 'real life', but they're definitely real, if that makes sense.
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Apr 26, 2020 15:14
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i remember hearing the audio dramas also made it explicit that akane and rikka get back together in the future
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Apr 26, 2020 17:01
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Nate RFB posted:Gridman's ending occupies this weird space in my mind where I like everything about it but wish the actual episode was about twice as long to let more plot threads breathe and touch on some other elements that they kind of had to skip over. Having never seen the original gridman, nothing about the ending indicates the place we spent the whole show on is anything but a dream. They go on about how nothing exists outside of the city, presumably because that's the extent of her dream, and it literally ends with her waking up in her bed in a live action sequence. If it was supposed to be relating this was anything but a dream they did a terrible job of it.
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Apr 26, 2020 17:25
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there was literally an entire shot at the end showing the world around them forming together into a complete earth, because she is the god of that world and she's now strong enough emotionally to deal with a world that large. that's the literal text that they give. it's not small because it's the extent of her dream, it's small because she feels anxious and insecure about the world outside of her home
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Apr 26, 2020 17:31
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2 years later, nitrousoxide still stubbornly wrong
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What I don't get is why people get so mad at the idea that the story might be entirely set in Akane's head. A team of extradimensional superheroes playing Inception to help a girl out of her clinical depression is also a perfectly fine story with meaningful stakes. Going 'oh, it was just about a depressed girl' seems like a rejection of the empathy that the show preaches. It was real and serious for one person, and that's enough.
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Apr 26, 2020 17:58
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Somewhere along the line people got the wrong idea. "It was a dream" is a perfectly fine way to end a story. The problem is only when the ending is "it was *just* a dream".
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Apr 26, 2020 18:05
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Fangz posted:Somewhere along the line people got the wrong idea. I think that if you don't see the triumph in Akane getting up and going to school after all that, though, then you've missed a great deal of the point of the show.
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Apr 26, 2020 18:11
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The Colonel posted:there was literally an entire shot at the end showing the world around them forming together into a complete earth, because she is the god of that world and she's now strong enough emotionally to deal with a world that large. that's the literal text that they give. it's not small because it's the extent of her dream, it's small because she feels anxious and insecure about the world outside of her home
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Apr 26, 2020 20:25
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in the latest episode of bookworm it's for sure better than dying in a pit but main and lutz sure got around to 'use the orphans as cheap labor' real quick huh
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a kitten posted:2 years later, nitrousoxide still stubbornly wrong There's no way it's been two years
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18 months is bad enough
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Apr 26, 2020 22:29
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The only thing I didn't really like about SSSS.Gridman's ending is how Gridman resolved everything: turns out he has a restore beam or something, apparently it's something he routinely uses on the live action series, he just... forgot he had it. Or maybe it just wasn't effective until the big bad was defeated, it wasn't entirely clear.
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Patware posted:in the latest episode of bookworm it's for sure better than dying in a pit but main and lutz sure got around to 'use the orphans as cheap labor' real quick huh
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Apr 26, 2020 23:15
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Phobophilia posted:The only thing I didn't really like about SSSS.Gridman's ending is how Gridman resolved everything: turns out he has a restore beam or something, apparently it's something he routinely uses on the live action series, he just... forgot he had it. Or maybe it just wasn't effective until the big bad was defeated, it wasn't entirely clear. It was that he forgot about it-specifically gridman's true role is not to fight, but to restore. Both in restoring Akane's heart and restoring the damage to the world.
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it's also admittedly the one example of full on fanservice in service of a rational conclusion but i'll allow it
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Nitrousoxide posted:How about instead of wishing that people would be put in bodily peril so you can watch your Japanese cartoons, you hope that the anime studios develop effective work from home workflows to continue bringing the content safely.
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Apr 26, 2020 23:58
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go watch tenamonya voyagers grouchio
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Darth Walrus posted:What I don't get is why people get so mad at the idea that the story might be entirely set in Akane's head. A team of extradimensional superheroes playing Inception to help a girl out of her clinical depression is also a perfectly fine story with meaningful stakes. Going 'oh, it was just about a depressed girl' seems like a rejection of the empathy that the show preaches. It was real and serious for one person, and that's enough. I can get behind this reading I suppose. I had taken it originally as it JUST being a dream that was entirely unconsequential. As long as there were stakes and a pay off that results in a changed world, even just a change to Akane to make her a happier person I'll withdraw my objection on that point. I still think that if the intent was to also convey that the non-live action world was actually not a dream and had it's own existence apart from Akane that they did a poor job of establishing that.
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Nitrousoxide posted:I still think that if the intent was to also convey that the non-live action world was actually not a dream and had it's own existence apart from Akane that they did a poor job of establishing that. I mean, it was pretty blatant that Akane was an intruder? Anosillus II was just hanging around as someone who lived there before she arrived (and established that yeah, SSSS was a sequel).
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i thought there was a couple minutes long conversation while the show was wrapping up about the nature of things? it's been a bit but i definitely didn't get the same read and im not the type who's really digging deep into lore things either
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Apr 27, 2020 00:41
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yeah the final scene of the show is literally just. a discussion between akane and rikka about. stuff gridman isn't particularly subtle about its story it's just that the info is conveyed through very personal conversations between akane and rikka rather than like, gridman infodumping on your face for five minutes
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The Colonel posted:go watch tenamonya voyagers grouchio 
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you know the show you just watched grouchio? they made it before the year 2007. believe it or not, they made anime for 50 years before 2007. imagine how much anime that is.
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Apr 27, 2020 06:13
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There must be at least 8 of em.
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Apr 27, 2020 06:25
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Waffleman_ posted:There must be at least 8 of em.
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Apr 27, 2020 06:32
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and through it all, one piece, from all the way back in 1776
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Apr 27, 2020 06:35
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then they made risky safety
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They never made Please Teacher.
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