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Phone posted:the liberal version of Dismissing this seriously gross shirt is actually a pretty good example of why your expectations are consistently off.
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Pick posted:As a woman, I feel confident in saying I would rather a man have put his finger in my vagina one time, briefly, than have put his penis in my vagina. As a vagina-possessor I will submit my input for the relative scale of "invasion of my vagina", since you have submitted it. Ok. I submit we... uhh......... not have a rapist candidate. How about that
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LionArcher posted:I thought the allegation was Biden assaulted her, not raped her. I only bring this up because while both are bad, Trump has been accused by over 23 women (including a teenager the same age as his daughter)! Of raping. Not assaulting. Lawmakers are like sausages; it is best not to see how they get laid.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:this entire discussion can be had in a single question. After a number of posters called me dumb or lovely in various ways, I’ll actually answer the one that asks a question. No. I don’t take issue with the word choice. Again, if my state had mattered in the primary, I would not have voted for Biden (hasn’t happened yet,) But we are past that point. He’s not my personal preference. But when the stakes are this high (woman’s rights, courts, climate change, border, putting competent leaders in charge of departments that desperately need them,) I will vote for him over trump or a protest vote or whatever the hell.
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Carew posted:Ok. I submit we... uhh......... not have a rapist candidate. How about that I genuinely do do not believe that Hillary Clinton was a rapist.
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Pick posted:I genuinely do do not believe that Hillary Clinton was a rapist. touché, she was merely a fixer for a rapist
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Pick posted:I genuinely do do not believe that Hillary Clinton was a rapist. not a rapist, but protects rapists and sex pests. much better
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I wonder if my daughter will ever live to see us elect a president who isn't a known rapist?
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LionArcher posted:After a number of posters called me dumb or lovely in various ways, I’ll actually answer the one that asks a question. going down the list: - consistently pro-life - good thing he protected the SC from anita hill - 3.9C instead of 4C is going to make all of the difference in the world - just pretend i posted the video of him ranting about voting for a fence back in 2006 and we'll call it even - like larry summer? biden is uniquely awful in the same way that hillary was uniquely awful in 2016; the democratic party literally could not have put forth a worse candidate.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:touché, she was merely a fixer for a rapist She's ghislaine maxwell with more suction in DC
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Falstaff posted:She made a name for herself as an Alt-Lite anti-SJW Youtube politics/culture commentator, essentially part of the chud pipeline. I think she changed her tune a little while before the election season started last year? Maybe a little after. If it's genuine, great - but I'm suspicious this all culminates in her going, "See leftists, this is why you need to join the Alt-Right" or whatever. One of the key foundations for the alt-right's rise is recognising the weakness and hypocrisy of then-mainstream liberalism of the Obama years; chiefly that it had failed to live up to its promises and refused to acknowledge material conditions on the ground, that there was a huge demographic of young people (mainly but not exclusively white men) for whom liberalism had nothing substantial to say to, who had been promised the world and ended up with jack poo poo but undischargeable student debt. Even if far-right views and white supremacy had been marginalised with limited appeal, they had pretty much zero competition for an entire demographic until the resurgent left came into being. Which led to an interesting dichotomy where liberals have absolutely no idea how to combat the alt-right and mostly failed miserably while living up to many of their worst caricatures, while in turn the alt-right has no idea how to counter the resurgent left, hence all the flailing and whining about antifa and inability to deal with consequences. Liberals went on to fight leftists harder than they've ever fought conservatives, since they at least believe that's a fight they have the weapons to win- primarily lies, smears, cheating and concern trolling, but they work well enough. Biden is basically all the contradictions of liberalism finally coming home to roost in a candidate that completely destroys their credibility on all the issues they were relying on to not be Republicans with more concern about politeness. As above, so below.
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LionArcher posted:After a number of posters called me dumb or lovely in various ways, I’ll actually answer the one that asks a question. How many rape accusations are you willing to excuse? You indicated earlier that 23 was too many from Trump. If Joe only had 22 could he still count on your support? Or, since his politics are more closely aligned with yours, could he bump that number up to 24 or 25? I ask because I am a high-ranking DNC operative doing voter research and I want to know how far we can crank this dial.
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LionArcher posted:After a number of posters called me dumb or lovely in various ways, I’ll actually answer the one that asks a question. women's rights lmao Like, the right to not get fondled or the right to have an abortion Cause I got some bad news on both fronts
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Unoriginal Name posted:women's rights lmao Listen, you gotta vote for the creepy senile anti-abortion rapist, he's better on women's rights Which one? *shrugs*
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considering all the creepy, gropey photos of joe there were, the multiple allegations of unwanted touching, kissing, etc, pretending that finger penetration is not actually full fledged rape and arguing in a way that pretends that will be the worst biden has done or that will come out is lovely the way that reade was sent over to biden when he raped her makes me feel that biden's handlers were well aware and were aiding him in this behavior. the way reade has been treated by the media and people in general (as well as her claims that support groups ignored her story for a long time) means that there's probably more women that biden raped that haven't come forward yet
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LionArcher posted:But when the stakes are this high (woman’s rights Just to clarify. You think the candidate that forcibly penetrated a woman with his hand and ran interference on the Anita Hill testimony (which is a whole poo poo load of comedy in terms of how much of a pushover Biden is when it comes to Republicans) on a Supreme Court nominee committing sexual assault on her is a good choice instead of a third party vote because of his respect for women's rights? Edit - Also I could add in the whole bit where he believed Roe v Wade was bad, said women didn't deserve the sole right to determine what happens with their body, voted against Medicaid-funded abortions (with the exception of rape, incest, or to save the mother's life), then voted to remove the rape & incest exemptions of that Medicaid funding when they passed, and was against federal employees getting access to abortion services under their health insurance provider but I think you get my point by now. Biden doesn't care about women's rights and never had any respect for them. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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PerniciousKnid posted:I wonder if my daughter will ever live to see us elect a president who isn't a known rapist? Not in this election cycle
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Why can't liberals just admit "defeat" (morally, ethically, factually) and still vote for Joe Biden, the only thing that actually matters?
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Pick posted:As a woman, I  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Pedro De Heredia posted:Why can't liberals just admit "defeat" (morally, ethically, factually) and still vote for Joe Biden, the only thing that actually matters? I think a lot make choices based on how they feel it makes them look, even subconsciously, as opposed to pure ethics - so there is a hard defense on protecting that perceived image. I've seen a few doing what you're saying, but those dont tend to be the comments that rise to the top because nobody piles on them like they do the hypocrites. Darko fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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If the calculus is that "well powerful men are all probably rapists so we can't take that into consideration" then why did people in the party react so different to Ford than Reade. Why not also vote trump then. Trump shares exactly as many of my values and desires as Biden does, after all. It's not some careful calculus, it's that Dems don't care if the rapist is a Dem. That's something they are willing to forgive, which means it's negotiable to them, and conditional as opposed to unconditional like they'd probably insist if asked. If being a rapist whose hangers on are smearing his accuser and calling her a lying Russian asset is something you're willing to compromise on when you have other choices, then that's your choice. I am in fact a dude living within a patriarchy, one who has voted for the Dem my entire life, but this is too much and I am done with them now. They are dead to me. You are not forced to vote for Biden and Biden will not be better on women's issues than Trump because if that were true the party would not have picked him. Scientist Al Gore posted:Biden's going to have to address the allegations himself now. I don't see this story going away by simply being ignored or dismissed. The funniest thing about the media loudly screaming for him to do SOMETHING so they can just say it was adequate and use it as an excuse to never speak another word of his rape habit is that he's still not going to, lmao
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Also responses can give an image and an opinion. I was completely "I don't know" on the Kavanaugh thing until he got up there and lied about sex terms and sex games in front of all of our faces. That may be a huge part of why they're trying their best to keep Biden quiet (especially given his propensity to get mad when questioned on anything).
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Scientist Al Gore posted:There's more than just theory crafting being discussed. If Republican Party essentially became a completely different party maybe I'd vote for them too! Everybody that has managed to get concerns I have in front of Biden in a public setting, he has told to vote for Trump I don't think I'm wrong in FEELING like the party isn't working for my vote. They openly and proudly despise people like me. Biden fundraises with stickers comparing me to child raping billionaires. Popy posted:maybe im super blackpilled at this point but i believe while Capitalism dictates policy fighting climate change is impossible home or abroad. Correct. Capitalism is by it's very nature fundamentally incapable of handling or even acknowledging crises of the commons. No party or person who prioritizes pushing a capitalist solution can solve anything like COVID and both parties are capitalists. Biden or Hillary's response would've been exactly identical to Trump's
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Mellow Seas posted:What the gently caress is “finger licking good” about Biden, as of now Donald Trump’s only competition, being a rapist and acting like a typical accused rapist? I swear, the absolute glee people have about poo poo like that, or about Trump eventually winning and scorching the libs, is extremely grating. noone has glee about biden sexually assaulting a woman. Seems like you are projecting that on other people.
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Somfin posted:Being sad about it means that it was close enough that its failures hurt you, and at this point the party has pushed me so far away and made itself so explicitly opposed to my politics, my morals, my ethics and my understanding of how the world should work that I'm too distant. I can't sympathise with them anymore; they're like monsters, elementally opposed to me and what I believe in. I can't help but laugh about the fact that this whole charade is now loving backfiring in such a massive, public manner. And yes, I take a bit of sadistic glee from the fact that a rapist is eating the goddamn curb in public. I konw this is from a couple pages back but this is something I am wrestling with too. For the longest time I was told that you should be in the democrats if you want equality for both women and minorities. I was told if you believe in doing the right thing by people and holding power accountable you should vote democrat. Over the last decade my faith has been shaken and this is just the final nail in the coffin. It turns out they only share my desire for equality and justice in the most superficial way in order to get power. The worst part is after Obama I realized they will almost never use that power to help the people they claim to care about. The question I have here is where do I fit in? Who am I supposed to vote for or help campaign when I feel like I don't belong in either party?
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Pick posted:I genuinely do do not believe that Hillary Clinton was a rapist. In the same way Ghislaine Maxwell wasn't a rapist.
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V. Illych L. posted:women's rights and civil rights groups have some heft in the democratic party, but they're definitely very much outweighed by financial interests They're begging for the same scraps we are. I've never seen wall street or finance have to bend and twist their principles to stay in the good graces of the party like those groups have had to We aren't too far off from a group being associated with the Dems being a huge mark against it because of the profound and damning compromises the party demands. I know it'd make me a lot less willing to support someone if I knew everything they stood for was de facto conditional
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Scientist Al Gore posted:There's more than just theory crafting being discussed. If Republican Party essentially became a completely different party maybe I'd vote for them too! This isn't about feelings and wants. It'd be nice if the Democrats were giving more, but the Democrats are giving absolutely nothing, and Republicans are giving absolutely nothing, and therefore as far as it loving matters the two are the same. It'd be nice to be able to vote for the better person but again, as far as it loving matters, the two are the same. It'd be nice if either party wanted me to vote for them, but the Republicans want nothing to do with socialists, and the Democrats want nothing to do with socialists, so, once again, as far as it loving matters, the two are the same. They don't want to give anything, they don't want to receive my support, and they're both putting forward monsters. You don't seem to comprehend just how far the Democrats are from anything that any other country would ever consider "left." I live in New Zealand (dual citizenship with America) and our wild, insane, idiot right-wing minor party starts where the Democrats' far-left fringe ends. AOC would politically fit in pretty strongly with our more major centre-right party, except that they're all incredible morons and she seems pretty clever. I can't talk about American politics with my girlfriend, because she ends up feeling loving sad that everyone in that hell country has grown up never feeling like the state has ever done anything positive for them in any way. Here in New Zealand, prescription medication, no matter what it is, costs $5 to refill, and that's New Zealand dollars, so that's ~$2.50 US. Any ER visit is free, any physical accident or ailment that leaves you unable to work is covered for a vast amount of time. We're killing covid-19 to the point where we're a few months off from actually having no cases anymore, and we're doing that entirely because the folks here basically trust the government when they put on a broadcast saying "hey you all need to stay the goddamn gently caress home for four weeks, yeah it's gonna suck but we need you to do your part while we do ours, please don't buy all the toilet paper lol." And we passed a minimum wage increase and a permanent benefit increase, both during the pandemic, both despite pleas and whines from business owners and right-wing morons, we extended protections for renters so they can't be kicked out unless they're two months behind on their payments despite moaning from landlords, and there's even quiet discussions around implementing a UBI, and all of that is just to help deal with covid-19. And this is our moderate, sensible centre-left party currently in power! Our wild ultra-left fringe party wanted a rent halt but couldn't quite push that one through yet. I say give 'em time, they might actually pull it off. Left governments literally everywhere else in the world offer their citizens something in exchange for their vote. Good ones offer their citizens lots in exchange for their vote. The Democrats in the US usually offer to do nothing, as opposed to increasing the pain, while Republicans offer to increase the pain over here on the bad people, in order to decrease the pain over there on the good people. And then they stick two ancient dying rapist puppets up in front of you and order you to pick a side and score sick burns about the other one mentally falling apart faster, and they tell you that's what politics actually is. You're in Plato's cave here. Somfin fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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Somfin posted:Left governments literally everywhere else in the world offer their citizens something in exchange for their vote. Good ones offer their citizens lots in exchange for their vote. The Democrats in the US usually offer to do nothing, as opposed to increasing the pain, while Republicans offer to increase the pain over here on the bad people, in order to decrease the pain over there on the good people. And then they stick two ancient dying rapist puppets up in front of you and order you to pick a side and score sick burns about the other one mentally falling apart faster, and they tell you that's what politics actually is.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1255643878117572609?s=20 Look at this incompetent, flailing seduction scene: https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1255654309175296000?s=20 When shoeonhead is outgrifting you, it's time to hang it up.
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Gonzo McFee posted:In the same way Ghislaine Maxwell wasn't a rapist. Ghislaine Maxwell was actually a rapist in the narrow sense of the word.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Look at this incompetent, flailing seduction scene: "That means that you're going to be a Republican now, right?" AKA: Republicans Ridicule Democrats For Caring As Little About Sexual Assault As They Do
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ManBoyChef posted:noone has glee about biden sexually assaulting a woman. Seems like you are projecting that on other people. Some posters here absolutely have glee about being able to use anything lovely Biden does as a cudgel against The Libs. I don’t think it’s super cool to call how a presidential candidate clumsily denies that he digitally penetrated someone “finger-licking good”. I think that’s actually gross. Some people celebrate any and all bad news about Biden, when to me, it means it’s more likely Trump remains President, or that the President who replaces him is even shittier than I thought.
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Mellow Seas posted:Some posters here absolutely have glee about being able to use anything lovely Biden does as a cudgel against The Libs. Biden is just as lovely no matter whether people find some catharsis in laughing about it or not, just FYI. Also at this point the libs ought to have proven that they 100% deserve being beaten over the head with their own lovely choices.
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Celebrating bad news about Biden would be predicated upon any of this being "news". It's all poo poo everyone knew about before the primary plus one extra sexual assault that came up 2 months ago. Everything since has just been watching people catch up. Personally I'm not celebrating, but there's a relief in people digesting this properly as they discover it and a bit of vindication in seeing certain liberals act like the chuds you knew they were all along. My earnest hope is that this senile rapist idiot can be replaced in the literal half year before we lock in approval for a 100% lovely outcome no matter who wins. Him being replaced would necessitate that the greater public understand why it needs to happen. Thus things like his sexual assault getting due coverage are good. That's it, that's how I feel.
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