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gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

it also needs emphasising how insanely embarrassed and pissed these hack frauds remain that a freewheeling failed Berkeley prof called the syrian war accurately back when they were still shilling for moderate jihadis in msm

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beer gas canister
Oct 30, 2007

shmups are da best come play some shmups they're cheap and good and you like them
Plaster Town Cop
not sure how they square the fascism with outspoken support for Rojava

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012
It's just another rehash of people reading Gary Brecher stuff and taking absolutely everything at face value.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

Stark Fist posted:

not sure how they square the fascism with outspoken support for Rojava

And Bernie.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Stark Fist posted:

not sure how they square the fascism with outspoken support for Rojava

one of the "chapo-to-fash pipeline" people was recently going after brace belden aka pisspig granddad, who actually traveled to syria to fight in the ypg, saying that his self promotion was erasing the women fighters and also saying he's an anti-semite for connecting rich people to epstein

so anything is possible with enough brain worms and im sorry if I'm infecting you with some of mine

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

It's just another rehash of people reading Gary Brecher stuff and taking absolutely everything at face value.

It's this. Twitter guy would read A Modest Proposal and think it sounds perfectly reasonable.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Finicums Wake posted:

marcie smith, who was interviewed following part 1 of an article she wrote about gene sharp, published part 2. hopefully they have her back on

https://nonsite.org/feature/change-agent-gene-sharps-neoliberal-nonviolence-part-two
checking in on this thread after while... thanks!!!

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Southpaugh posted:

Lol, poor john is many things but a white nationalist he is not.

Is this the same brand of kneejerk leftist we have here that hate all things military, and think military things are inherently right wing? Like hate to break it to them that left wing militias are the only extant de facto leftist groups with any meaningful power.


lol - They are doing the usual thing of cherry picking facts to suit themselves. I can only imagine the hilarious scenario of JD in a room with actual nazi Richard Spencer.

actually they love the military, as long as that military is NATO

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Penisaurus Sex posted:

Because the entire point of American liberalism is moral superiority and martyrdom.

if they (the general 'they' of the American liberal blob) acquiesce and acknowledge that people can change and that qualities we find morally repugnant, like racism, sexism, or anti-intellectualism, are not essential to a person's character but a set of learned responses imprinted by material dynamism and time, well, there's nothing left for liberalism.

No one actually likes being a liberal, in the Democratic style. They like being able to tell people they're liberal.

Plus if you were morally in the right, they can't badger and drag you over your transgression, so that's less power for them.

So they play these gotcha games and surprise, they're always right and you're always wrong.

This also reminds me of Pacifica radio. It was good in the 60s, and then when the war ended they got all experimental with their governance and made it a democracy. Then people started using that system to erect a leftist crab bucket where they're too busy tearing each other down over not being woke enough and vying for control.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/sep/10/pacifica-leftwing-radio-kpfk-wbai-financial-collapse

It was to the point where shows on the station here spent their airtime... complaining about their own management. The weird thing, I don't know if it was organic or the result of infiltrators. It's weird how conservative talk goes more or less smoothly but the only leftist networks happens to enjoy tying themselves in knots rather than actually delivering their message.

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

skooma512 posted:

It's weird how conservative talk goes more or less smoothly but the only leftist networks happens to enjoy tying themselves in knots rather than actually delivering their message.

shower people with money for what amounts to fake-work and they will shut the gently caress up and do anything to keep the cash flow coming

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


lol i had no idea that even years ago they owed warren peas two million bucks

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1256234261813878785

Ansar Santa
Jul 12, 2012

it seems that this time sobchak was the one who went over the line

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Really enjoyed Mark on TrueAnon, especially the chat about Russia in the 90s. Wish they went even longer.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

TA pods always feel too short. The 9/11 part 1 pod was one of the first I listened to, and I always remember they got maybe like 25% through the backstory

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
I’m only half way through but the new ep is a classic - great guest talks about the dynamism of the fifties non aligned movement as well as Indonesia. as an Australian I know slightly more about Indonesia than the layman they describe but even what I knew was pretty wrong. also features new John almost dying due to meekness story.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

I'm still working my way through the Eastern front episodes. I've gotten nervous every time Annibale gives a warning he is about to say something controversial, but he was mostly just criticizing the Nazis so it was fine.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
the latest newsletter about yemen is brutal and is a great critique of the media (or at least one article)

animist
Aug 28, 2018
look at this terrible review of Surveillance Valley i ran into

quote:

Levine argues that weaponisation was encoded in the internet from the outset, and that Google, Facebook and Amazon have all played a role in supporting the US government’s aggressive foreign policy. As he puts it: “the internet was developed as a weapon and remains a weapon today. American military interests continue to dominate all parts of the network, even those that supposedly stand in opposition.”

But what does that actually mean? What are America’s military interests? As Levine argues that Silicon Valley is so intertwined with the US military and intelligence agencies that it’s hard to tell them apart, he makes little distinction between corporate and military agendas. Viewed from this perspective, Google’s interests are one and the same as the Pentagon’s, and America becomes one giant military-industrial complex seeking to impose free-market capitalism on the world.

*sweating* which is, uh, definitely not the case

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Ames and Dolan both tweeted about this when that review came out actually.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017



it would really suck if the money went right back into the economy

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Maya Fey posted:

it would really suck if the money went right back into the economy

My high score though :qq: Rich people won't be accumulating as much score as fast if we make them wait for it to get flushed into the real economy and snakes its way into their cesspool of gambling and usury.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
the latest episode about Indonesia is some extreme :smith: stuff. the last thing they touch on before ending the interview and just read straight from the book with regards to if the surviving indonesian communists would have taken up arms is straight up harrowing in the sharp contrast of the dumb bullshit i've been exposing myself to in d&d over the past few months.

it's basically impossible to understate the horrors of the american hegemony, and it's also impossible to convince stalwart democratic party voting liberals despite any evidence either.

not something i wanted to think about tonight lol

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

A Russian troll farm posted:

it seems that this time sobchak was the one who went over the line

:v:

Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY

forkboy84 posted:

Really enjoyed Mark on TrueAnon, especially the chat about Russia in the 90s. Wish they went even longer.

It would be interesting to have the two discuss with Brace what he was doing in Rojava.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Is there an ep where they talk about Brown Moses? TBH I'm only familiar with criticism of him within the context of this forum, ie that he's a goofy goon whose "analysis" is copied from wikipedia. I'd be interested in what an outsider has to say about his "intelligence service".

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1266203621974294529

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Trimson Grondag 3 posted:

I’m only half way through but the new ep is a classic - great guest talks about the dynamism of the fifties non aligned movement as well as Indonesia. as an Australian I know slightly more about Indonesia than the layman they describe but even what I knew was pretty wrong. also features new John almost dying due to meekness story.

Yeah I wanted to post this but couldn't find the thread, its a great episode

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

The new episode is indeed pretty good and it's a good time to chant death to America anyway. Wasn't there an old episode on the Philippines that also included the elimination of a party that operated on the assumption that they could just register for the elections? If I'm not mixing everything up then that should have happened shortly after 45.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/TheWarNerd/status/1267948716171956229

That one was also pretty cool.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


It was, but the guest's voice is really something else, especially combined with the fuzzy connection - I imagined him as a tiny Italian man with a huge mustache from a 1930's cartoon.

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
drink every time he says documents

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

I just imagined him being in his advanced eighties, but apparently not

""Piero Gleijeses - Wikipedia" posted:

Piero Gleijeses (born 1944 in Venice, Italy) is a professor of United States foreign policy at the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) at Johns Hopkins University.[1]

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
just listened to the cuba angola wars. the cubans were (are) cool as hell

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

It was, but the guest's voice is really something else, especially combined with the fuzzy connection - I imagined him as a tiny Italian man with a huge mustache from a 1930's cartoon.


there's pictures of him older, but this really captures his essence best

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
holy poo poo listen to the Matthew Randazzo episode right now.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
Really good newsletter about how the British Empire co-opted novelists and poets who stayed silent on their genocides. It's ground he's covered before but he brings a lot of fire and talks about India a fair bit.

beer gas canister
Oct 30, 2007

shmups are da best come play some shmups they're cheap and good and you like them
Plaster Town Cop

Remulak posted:

holy poo poo listen to the Matthew Randazzo episode right now.

:tif:

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

snoremac posted:

Really good newsletter about how the British Empire co-opted novelists and poets who stayed silent on their genocides. It's ground he's covered before but he brings a lot of fire and talks about India a fair bit.

Yeah it rules. Honestly whenever I hear people go off about how socialists need to just focus on Americans (whites) I think of those kinds of people Dolan's talking about, who were aware of all the problems of England domestically but absolutely refused to see any solidarity with people outside their borders and thus didn't care the empire was murdering millions because those people had it coming

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
it starts off strong to say the least

quote:

Amateurs Talk Cancel, Pros Talk Silence


What, you thought you were safe? You’d get through the big "Cancel Culture" war without me popping off?

No such luck.

Public morality should be pretty simple. When an oppressed group gets enough power to make its oppressors behave, they will do so — and they should.

The real problem, the kind of thing that would make De Niro in Casino groan, “Amateur night!”, starts when people imagine that they can stop immoral behavior by policing immoral characters, phrases, or scenes in literature.

They’re looking for the wrong thing. They’re sniffing for depictions of immorality, when they should be scanning the silences, the evasions.

There’s a very naïve theory of language at work here, roughly: “if people speak nicely, they’ll act nicely” — with the fatuous corollary, “If people mention bad things, they must like bad things.”

The simplest refutation of that is two words: Victorian Britain.

Victorian Britain carried out several of the biggest genocides in human history. It was also a high point of virtuous literature.

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Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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Has Dolan done any shows specifically about Victorian England?

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