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And when we say "all" there was like 5 tops and some barely qualify since they were tiny fighters La Sirena 7's ship that got blown up All the Romulan fighters (one low poly, low detail design with clone brush x5000) The Tal Shiar fleet (one slightly higher poly, higher detail design with clone brush x500) USS Zheng He and cohorts (one higher poly, higher detail starfleet design with clone brush x500) Seriously, those end fleets were dumb as ever loving gently caress. The tension was not increased by the Tal Shiar fleet being so big and it didn't even make sense when Romulans are refugees. Having like 5 salvaged D'deridex class ships would have been more than enough to fill the threat role that the story line had and would have really driven home how few fucks Starfleet gave since they would have been no threat to a modern fleet. Then Riker could have swooped in with the Titan and a few Sovereign Classes to save the day.
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The_Doctor posted:Did Eaves do the one fed ship we saw in Picard? The ship appears to be based on an old concept sketch by Eaves that was passed over by STO.
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May 4, 2020 20:45
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Here it is:  and here's the show ship:  
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May 4, 2020 20:55
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I don't like how all the lit up parts look like grids of LEDs.
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May 4, 2020 21:01
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I was reading an article about how the Enterprise-D was designed a couple of days ago, and what stood out was how determined Probert was to have the ship be smooth and flowing and curved, with hardly a straight line on it. (It was a huge pain for ILM to build, but Probert and the producers were adamant that they stick exactly to the design rather than their usual MO of treating whatever they were given as a starting point.) Smooth flowing curves on a spaceship. Boy, that idea got tossed in the trash sometime in the late 90s. Edit: I didn't like the JJ-Trek decision to make the warp engines fire up at the rear end like some kind of high-tech rocket, and I really don't like that the concept has been brought into the TNG timeline as well, from those ship shots. Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 21:28 on May 4, 2020 |
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May 4, 2020 21:24
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Also, if you look at those renders, there are actually two different nacelle designs which is is just weird. Compare the two nacelles next to each other on the left. One has a more squared off end piece while the other is more squircle shaped. If you look closely, you can see the variation repeated on several of the other ships. If you look at the one on the extreme right, you can see it doesn't have light up portions on the inside of the nacelle. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 21:31 on May 4, 2020 |
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May 4, 2020 21:28
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What is going on with the right hand ship's impulse engine
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Payndz posted:I was reading an article about how the Enterprise-D was designed a couple of days ago, and what stood out was how determined Probert was to have the ship be smooth and flowing and curved, with hardly a straight line on it. (It was a huge pain for ILM to build, but Probert and the producers were adamant that they stick exactly to the design rather than their usual MO of treating whatever they were given as a starting point.) Ooh, can we all post our fav curvy spaceships now?    
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Tighclops posted:What is going on with the right hand ship's impulse engine If you look at the others, it looks like there's louvers that make the glow invisible at an off angle, if you look at the one on the left, the inner left impulse engine is also dark.
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May 4, 2020 21:35
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That's so weird it makes it look like the some of the ships just randomly have some of their engines out
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Tighclops posted:That's so weird it makes it look like the some of the ships just randomly have some of their engines out Yeah, and the same goes for the nacelles. The more rounded nacelles look like something out of JJ Trek and don't really fit with the design theme they have going on here, the squared off nacelles fit the design language better. It's just a weird effect. And you have to laugh about why a ship would need such giant impulse engines when the D had just the one.
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Tighclops posted:That's so weird it makes it look like the some of the ships just randomly have some of their engines out Penny-pinching chief engineers keeping a close watch on the plasma thermostat. "We're not paying to impulse the whole neighborhood, you know."
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 https://www.artstation.com/artwork/OzPeK ...so I saw this while looking at curvy spaceships, not sure how to feel about it
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Brawnfire posted:
USS Fancy Pizza Cutter
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Arglebargle III posted:Here it is: This is like the Axe body spray of Starships
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Brawnfire posted:My brain: the greeblies are specialised sensory equipment for science "How do you want to collect interstellar hydrogen on your new starship? We've got shaker hoods, ram air, cowl induction, velocity stacks, bug catcher..." bull3964 posted:Yeah, and the same goes for the nacelles. The more rounded nacelles look like something out of JJ Trek and don't really fit with the design theme they have going on here, the squared off nacelles fit the design language better. It's just a weird effect. The D had three. Two on the saucer and one at the base of the neck. This is the reason given for initially not wanting to separate the ship in Best Of Both Worlds. They thought they might need the saucer's impulse engines.
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Cat Hatter posted:The D had three. Two on the saucer and one at the base of the neck. This is the reason given for initially not wanting to separate the ship in Best Of Both Worlds. They thought they might need the saucer's impulse engines. They thought they might need the power from the saucer's impulse fusion reactors, not the thrust itself. The saucer's impulse engines were only ever in use when the ship was separated, they were not used for thrust when it was all in one piece.
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Tighclops posted:I wonder who made off with all those 3D printers from Picard This right here is IMO the most inexplicable design choice on that whole show. it's just so gloriously idiotic. For those who haven't seen it: they used a modern 3D printer, complete with extruder and ribbon cables etc., as a prop for a replicator. But the prop doesn't actually move or anything. It's not like they go to replicate something and you see a normal 3D printer rapidly make an actual object, they just do a fancy special effect inside of it to show something being replicated. It's such a  moment
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The new replicator effect was pretty neat, but yeah. It was literally just a 3D printer with the labels still on it. Very weird choice.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:This is like the Axe body spray of Starships hoooly poo poo lol
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bull3964 posted:They thought they might need the power from the saucer's impulse fusion reactors, not the thrust itself. That's just because they're hypermiling. If they need to get somewhere in a hurry they'll use warp.
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Arglebargle III posted:Here it is: I don't like the design but I still think the drawing looks better than the final product.
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Tighclops posted:What is going on with the right hand ship's impulse engine I didn't notice that, probably because I'm insane after 8 weeks of quara,tine.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:This right here is IMO the most inexplicable design choice on that whole show. it's just so gloriously idiotic. This reminds me that Amazon series Upload features a real nice halfway point between modern 3d printers and Trek replicators, complete with food printer recipes that are only available on specific printer brands and having to refill cartridges with chemical components of food. It's the kind of visual that I would see fitting real nicely into the TOS era as a way for the food synthesizer to work that's distinct from later replicators.
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I bet it was a huge time saver for them not to have to construct a box with some panels on it from scratch
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It's like when I was a kid and I used to pretend the microwave was a replicator except they are doing it for real on a multimillion dollar show for grownups
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I haven't seen the show, did they at least speed up the printing to make it seem more future?
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PerniciousKnid posted:I haven't seen the show, did they at least speed up the printing to make it seem more future? In picard? It's just a replicator there. Like, normal replicator. Nothing about the internal bits move and act like a printer. Here someone recreated the scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDP9XWxKf4U
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That isn't the effect from the show at all though. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u-AG0kz404 The 3D printer doesn't move or anything when they do use it, which is why it's such a weird choice.
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Maybe they thought they were going to do that when they filmed it, but SFX was like "Eh, gently caress it."
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It's... Uh... A throwback design choice? Like how phone icons on smart phones look like something that hasn't existed for decades. Or like how arcade cabinets are huge even though they only need a tiny chip and a power supply. None of that poo poo is necessary, it's nostalgia for old fashioned (500 year old?) symbolism.
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That's the only thing I can think of. It just makes no sense why you'd bother to get actual 3D printers and then have them do nothing at all but be an empty, motionless box.
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Is there a word for when someone puts more thought into something than the creators? If so, I bet it's German. The thing is, if they wanted to do a *nudge nudge* Easter egg thing, they would have kept the shell so that it's recognizable to someone who knows the printers but gutted the internals to make them a logical prop. I mean, we all know McCoy's scanner for his tricorder is just a salt shaker, but he doesn't actively season patients during the series. Damnit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a sous-chef. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 01:32 on May 5, 2020 |
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The overall design seems reasonable for a like, portable-model replicator with the matter tank under the table or something, but at least redress it some, folks
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Brawnfire posted:
I like it. It's both clearly a starfleet ship and also clearly not a completely human design. Also the first episode of The Delta Flyers is out and its pretty good. Garrett's story about his audition was pretty funny.
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I bet someone bought those 3D printers so they could ‘borrow’ them off the set when filming ended.
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MikeJF posted:I think it might be the same scene where we see the jump to warp from inside ten-forward as well, which I'm not sure they used again either. I think I spotted that shot in a season five or six DS9 episode, with Defiant or something going to warp.
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Grand Fromage posted:That's the only thing I can think of. It just makes no sense why you'd bother to get actual 3D printers and then have them do nothing at all but be an empty, motionless box. Really? It’s because someone on set wanted to be cute. It’s a reference. That’s all.
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Kibayasu posted:Really? It’s because someone on set wanted to be cute. It’s a reference. That’s all. ??? a reference to what? Mr. Prokosch posted:It's... Uh... A throwback design choice? Like how phone icons on smart phones look like something that hasn't existed for decades. Or like how arcade cabinets are huge even though they only need a tiny chip and a power supply. None of that poo poo is necessary, it's nostalgia for old fashioned (500 year old?) symbolism. Are you trying to say that a corded phone handset hasn't existed for decades? Do you not understand why arcade cabinets might be shaped the way they are, despite the empty space? Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 5, 2020 |
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