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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:that's one of the problems with the giant wheels every OEM insists on putting on cars and CUVs. i'm glad the alltrack only takes 16" tires. Ha, my brother pisses and moans about tire costs for the 20" wheels on his Silverado, so I told him just buy smaller stock wheels, then he says but those don't look cool 
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Ha, my brother pisses and moans about tire costs for the 20" wheels on his Silverado, so I told him just buy smaller stock wheels, then he says but those don't look cool Just rent rims. LOL
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Ha, my brother pisses and moans about tire costs for the 20" wheels on his Silverado, so I told him just buy smaller stock wheels, then he says but those don't look cool At least he's honest about it.
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taqueso posted:Aren't tires for larger wheels generally less rubber and slightly less expensive? Assuming the same total diameter and model rubber cost is not a major driver of tire cost
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May 5, 2020 17:03
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:that's one of the problems with the giant wheels every OEM insists on putting on cars and CUVs. i'm glad the alltrack only takes 16" tires. Elviscat posted:The i3 also has somewhat... unique tires. NitroSpazzz fucked around with this message at 17:36 on May 5, 2020 |
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May 5, 2020 17:16
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The i3 also has somewhat... unique tires.
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my current car has 18's and I hate them. they're loud, harsh, and expensive...but they look cool I guess.Elviscat posted:The i3 also has somewhat... unique tires. Pictured, actual i3 tire: 
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May 5, 2020 17:45
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doesn't the i3 run some 22" moon wheel
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StormDrain posted:At least he's honest about it. Yeah, but I told him that's the trade off. You want cool big wheels you gotta pay for tires. It's his DD/work truck so he puts a ton of miles on it, and half the problem with the big wheels is you can't get any tires with decent tread wear, they are all "sport truck" expensive tires with short life spans. I told him if he went with a 16 or 17 inch wheel the tires would be cheaper and last twice as long. And the ride would be better too with more sidewall, the last thing you want to do to a truck is make the ride worse cuz it sucks already 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:doesn't the i3 run some 22" moon wheel   Those are 32" diameter, for reference. And a wheelbase of 7.5 ft!
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Riding on 32'' Aldrins
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LifeSunDeath posted:Riding on 32'' Aldrins Trip-dubs
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LifeSunDeath posted:Riding on 32'' Aldrins with a busted, half-assedly repaired fender
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Just don't get caught slippin on the moon, someone will jack your https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pazPUnCo3Iw&t=83s
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NitroSpazzz posted:Worst part about going from the old crusty VW to the i3. On the VW I could get 15" tires with a 70k mile guarantee for the same price as the stupid 19" tires on the i3 that will be lucky to see 15k miles. I hate big wheels on cars. 16"-18" seems to be the sweet spot in terms of availability and cost. Used to be 15". LOL if you need something in 13" (or God forbid, smaller.) Your choices are all-season no-names, or maybe another all-season no-name. I have a pretty good variety in the 16" tires on the Kia and the Outback, and for the 18s currently on my Crown Vic, in a range of prices, treadwear, and styles, thankfully.
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I think my old Fiat 124 had 12"s, and the only new tires I could find were Hoosiers.TotalLossBrain posted:with a busted, half-assedly repaired fender I do love that mission control's solution was to duct tape some maps together and clamp them in place using telescope parts. https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/duct-tape-auto-repair-moon
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Safety Dance posted:I think my old Fiat 124 had 12"s, and the only new tires I could find were Hoosiers.
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I got BF Goodrich G-Force Rival S tires for $80 per on a 14 inch wheel for my Miata. My WRX is $150-$250 for a similar performance tire on a 17 inch wheel. I used to run 18x9.5 on the WRX like a hotboi, those were $1000+ per set. gently caress big wheels. It would be great if we could get back to functional sidewalls again. I really like the new charger, but it's stuck with 20 inch wheels and I'm going to avoid it based on tire cost alone.
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Downside of 17s is there is like nothing real performance wise larger than a 255, you need to go to an 18 for that. But yeah, I agree, gently caress these rubber band tires.
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BlackMK4 posted:Downside of 17s is there is like nothing real performance wise larger than a 255, you need to go to an 18 for that. But yeah, I agree, gently caress these rubber band tires. I agree almost as hard as the jolt I took from a pothole that destroyed a tire and bent a 20” wheel.
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Midjack posted:I agree almost as hard as the jolt I took from a pothole that destroyed a tire and bent a 20” wheel. I mashed the gently caress out of a 18" wheel last year and killed a 1000 mile PS4 
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BlackMK4 posted:Downside of 17s is there is like nothing real performance wise larger than a 255, you need to go to an 18 for that. But yeah, I agree, gently caress these rubber band tires. Yeah, low profile looks good (to a point - I like *some* sidewall) but ride and durability suffer unduly, before you even get into the cost. Almost no passenger vehicle needs 20" wheels, and most don't even really look good with them that big in relation to the size of the car/wheel openings (which is, of course, only my opinion on aesthetics.) I mean, I like Hot Wheels, but the look just doesn't scale up well.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I mashed the gently caress out of a 18" wheel last year and killed a 1000 mile PS4 That reminds me that I had a pothole bite one of the 18s (245/45, IIRC) on my CV a couple years ago. Thankfully didn't hurt the wheel.
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Darchangel posted:That reminds me that I had a pothole bite one of the 18s (245/45, IIRC) on my CV a couple years ago. Thankfully didn't hurt the wheel. I found out that although it's still possible to get a Style 65 wheel from BMW but at minimum it costs $500. I killed the gently caress outta that wheel.
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Yep, recently replaced two bad 19" wheels on my Alfa. It actually appears that the previous owner did the damage, ground the tires down through imbalance until rotating masses were "balanced" and then sold it the car. I put another 7,000 buttery smooth miles on the car until I replaced the stock run-flats and the wheel balance went hay-wire. Tried to balance them but they were so out of round the wheels were visibly traveling up and down at speed while balance at the steering wheel felt decent. So combining lovely bent wheel talk with "people don't fix poo poo" talk. There you go. Though for sure now I avoid potholes like death. Surprisingly the wheels were only $500 each new from the factory.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Kind of a weird thing. Can't be an expert in everything, but if your car is flying apart is a tad different than not knowing how your aquarium pH balance is going. I dunno, I kinda get it. I'm complete poo poo at properly adulting with money. Not like I'm always broke or anything, I just hurfed all my money into a checking account until my wife said "you're a loving idiot, why don't you adult better." I dunno, I just don't care? Can't be bothered to fix it? Don't realize it's bad? I'm that way with a lot of things, I can see how people are that way with cars. We're all obsessive about something and can't understand how the rest of the world treats that something with disrespect, but the converse is also true. You don't realize what you don't care about, so you don't know you're doing it.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I mashed the gently caress out of a 18" wheel last year and killed a 1000 mile PS4 It was an eighth of the way through its tread life anyway.
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chrisgt posted:I dunno, I kinda get it. I'm complete poo poo at properly adulting with money. Not like I'm always broke or anything, I just hurfed all my money into a checking account until my wife said "you're a loving idiot, why don't you adult better." yep, there's only so much you can actually really pay attention to, let alone do for yourself
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:yep, there's only so much you can actually really pay attention to, let alone do for yourself Well, yes, but it seems like maybe one should pay attention to the multi-thousands or ten-thousands machine that makes it possible for one to do stuff like go to work and pay for the aforementioned machine, plus rent/mortgage, food, and other little details. I mean, if you need it for that. Some parts of the world have a reasonable mass transit system.
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My hobby is walking through the Target parking lot looking at tupperware-clad SUVs to see what kind of bizarro cheap tires they found to put on those massive rims after they found out that a set of tires is pushing $800.
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Those SUVs are fun to watch during the 3-6 days/year that we get snow here locally. You can get away with those poo poo run-down tires for most of the year in an arid climate. But rare snow sure does a number on them. Big rear end trucks can't 'even leave their goddamn driveway on those 22's with homemade slicks.
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Darchangel posted:Well, yes, but it seems like maybe one should pay attention to the multi-thousands or ten-thousands machine that makes it possible for one to do stuff like go to work and pay for the aforementioned machine, plus rent/mortgage, food, and other little details. I mean, if you need it for that. Some parts of the world have a reasonable mass transit system. poo poo one would think that it might be beneficial to know how to cook, or to fix any number of things in your house, or adhere to a budget, or responsibly save money, or whatever, and you'd be right - but millions of people don't know how to do that poo poo.
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Its like 4wd tyres too- You get a lot of higher end 4wds now coming out with 19-20-22" rims on them and it absolutely FUCKS their ability to go offroad. A Land Rover Discovery 4 with the 19" rims needs you to keep something stupid like 45psi in them at all times or you'll damage them. The 16" rims on my cruiser have 285/75R16 tyres on them and I run around town at 36psi and drive over curbs at 60kph without issue. Last desert trip I did I think i did close to 600km with 14psi in the tyres, zero issues. Form over function is a load of wank and should be stamped out.
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Ferremit posted:Its like 4wd tyres too- You get a lot of higher end 4wds now coming out with 19-20-22" rims on them and it absolutely FUCKS their ability to go offroad. It’s a hoot when they haphazardly decide to go off-road for the first time. The emergence of towing and recovery YouTube channels is a testament to that.
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Granted my optics might be skewed since I live in the states, but when Atlanta gets hit with 1/2" of snow time to bust out the popcorn maker.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Granted my optics might be skewed since I live in the states, but when Atlanta gets hit with 1/2" of snow time to bust out the popcorn maker. Texas, too. It fuckin’ hilarious.
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Darchangel posted:Almost like stuff like that should be taught in primary education. It sort of was when I was in junior- and high school. I took “Recordkeeping” which taught me how to make a budget, balance a checkbook, and other financial record-keeping stuff. “Keyboarding” (typing class, but on computers, because they were still sorta new in the ‘80s, yes, I’m old), home-ec, and such. We also still had a voc-ed program. I took metal shop, but wood shop and the mechanics shop would have been useful, too. You and I are probably around the same age with same thoughts. One of the ones that I took was "Small engines". Was great to overhaul a small B&S and have it fire off. Of course I'll probably have various forms of cancer with the condition of the parts washer, painting various farm implements JD Green and Yellow without various forms of PPE but one thing that teacher nailed into our brains was always wear safety glasses. Of course your snot was JD green for a day or two.
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Galler posted:Seems to partially exist already Or the simplest possible solution Just hire some loving flagmen you cheapskates
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