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Brawnfire posted:The taper on the nacelles is nice, looks like taffy pulled to the breaking point That reminded me of the book Prime Directive. The enterprise tried to go to warp while deep within a gravity well and....bad stuff happened. One of the nacelles was essentially being pulled into subspace slowly. quote:The forward section of the nacelle was still in perfect condition. At the time of the incident, the propulsion dome disperser pylon had been deployed for routine discharge maintenance and the stubby projection was still in place, unbent and undisturbed. But thirty meters back from the lip of the dome, the first rippling deformations in the nacelle's cylindrical hull became apparent. Fifty meters back, and the hull took on the appearance of a piece of stretched taffy, just like the candy Sulu had once spent six months cooking and sculpting into birds and dragons on the ends of sticks. By sixty meters, the rest of the nacelle was completely gone, supposedly compressed to a point through the inconceivable multidimensional pathways that lead out of the four-dimensional spacetime and into the other realms in which warp speeds were possible. This is also the non-canon reason why you see the Enterprise go from the grill at the end of the nacelles to the ball end nacelle. They were replacement nacelles from the Intrepid II.
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bull3964 posted:taffy, just like the candy Sulu had once spent six months cooking and sculpting into birds and dragons on the ends of sticks. ....sorry, is this canon?
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Prime Directive is definitely one of the Good Trek Books. A younger Lieutenant Styles shows up to annoy Scotty as he's trying to fix the Enterprise, sort of setting the stage for the comeuppance he gets in Star Trek III.
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Yeah, and he apparently wrassled the swagger stick away from a Klingon! The book is good. It's setup in media res with the crew already disbanded and in disgraced and shares a lot of elements of a heist movie of them getting back together to prove their innocence with flashbacks filling in the details of what happened. It honestly would have made a great movie. They're on a mission to observe a pre-warp civilization in the middle of an arms race. Mistakes were made, which lead to complete genocide of the planet and the crew was blamed for violating the prime directive. Turns out in the end there was a non-sapient hive race that was inadvertently terraforming the planet for an algae they wanted to eat that thrives on high radiation and THEY caused the nuke launch and not the Enterprise. The federation redirected the being to a gas giant instead to feed to save the planet. There was some evidence that some people survived on the planet below and since an outside force interfered with them, the federation was open to help the planet recover. Like, serious, remembering that book now makes me sad it wasn't a movie. It would have had tension, action, you could have done cool special effects, but in the end there wasn't a real 'enemy', just a mystery to solve and a somewhat hopeful ending. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 23:12 on May 6, 2020 |
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I uh I am 31. I have been a Star Trek fan for 25 years. Somehow, somehow, today was the first time I ever saw In The Pale Moonlight.  Just every single minute of it was perfect (except Terry Farrell had some weirdly distracting really bad bags under her eyes). I started screaming at the screen when I realized what Garak had done about a minute before Sisko confronted him. And now I know what that one guy’s avatar screaming it’s a FAAAAAAAKE is all about!
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Arivia posted:I uh 
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bull3964 posted:Yeah, and he apparently wrassled the swagger stick away from a Klingon! The end has the crew beaming down to the planet with supplies etc and it turns out a lot of the civilian population survived because the species can cocoon themselves or something. It's pretty sappy but it's Star Trek. There's also some good setup/mystery/payoff throughout.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:The worst part of all this is we're absolutely going to see the Ent-F at some point in the next few years and it's gonna be 100x worse than anything posted here so far And the V'draysh probably have an nnnterprize-M or something in disco season 3.
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MikeJF posted:And the V'draysh probably have an nnnterprize-M or something in disco season 3. JFAZW
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MikeJF posted:And the V'draysh probably have an nnnterprize-M or something in disco season 3. Not gonna lie, I would actually love that as a background joke they don't focus on. In some location have a wall which has the familiar line-up of gold Enterprise models, starting off with the familiar ones and then just stretching off into the distance down a hallway.
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Senor Tron posted:Not gonna lie, I would actually love that as a background joke they don't focus on. In some location have a wall which has the familiar line-up of gold Enterprise models, starting off with the familiar ones and then just stretching off into the distance down a hallway. I don't understand this joke, help.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:I don't understand this joke, help. https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/4a50dba5-5ba3-4e08-a377-36b511d0dc74
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I listened to the first two episodes of that Delta Flyers podcast this morning and it was alright. Garrett Wang likes to ramble on about himself a bit, but he’s extremely knowledgeable about the show and the franchise as a whole and he does some solid impressions of the other cast members. Robert McNeil mostly seems like he’s just along for the ride but it’s kinda funny hearing him regret what an unlikable turd Paris was. Definitely worth a listen. I only wish they were meaner about the show itself, but this was only the first episode and they haven’t covered any of the truly stupid poo poo just yet, so fingers crossed we get some decent BTS drama out of it.
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May 7, 2020 19:05
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They did already bring up multiple disappointments in plotlines getting dropped, so I don't think they're going to be relentlessly positive.
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May 7, 2020 19:31
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These guys still have to be people pleasers on the convention circuit so I can't imagine them taking a total dump on the show
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May 7, 2020 19:42
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We'd need a Beltran podcast for that.  I don't expect them to poo poo on the show, but so far they seem willing to not pretend it's perfect and talk about some of the issues.
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May 7, 2020 20:06
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Grand Fromage posted:We'd need a Beltran podcast for that. I'd be surprised if they don't invite their co-stars on eventually for episodes that focus on their characters. The West Wing weekly did this a lot.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:These guys still have to be people pleasers on the convention circuit so I can't imagine them taking a total dump on the show I gotta figure a good chunk of convention attendees would eat up any behind-the-scenes drama stories with a spoon. Hell, I know I would!
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I don't have the time or inclination to listen to another podcast but please send out an alert in the thread when they reach Threshold. Tia
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May 7, 2020 22:20
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Robert McNeil still works as a director for Star Trek (among other things) so he has a solid reason not to poo poo on the show too hard.
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Space Force should absolutely be run by corrupt Admirals. https://twitter.com/SpaceForceDoD/status/1258067536509317128
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I mean as much as I was disappointed in Voyager, I don't think objectively it's such an awful show, or troubled production, that the actors would feel compelled to constantly trash it. Some light ribbing perhaps. I'd actually expect that more for Enterprise, which I liked more, but was undeniably a bigger dumpster fire behind the scenes.
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Gonz posted:Space Force should absolutely be run by corrupt Admirals. Sadly it's a branch of the Air Force so it will be run by corrupt generals.
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Also, the US is just talking about returning to the moon after almost 50 years. Your space force talk like it’s going to be Starfleet ain’t fooling anyone.
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The_Doctor posted:Also, the US is just talking about returning to the moon after almost 50 years. Your space force talk like it’s going to be Starfleet ain’t fooling anyone. And that's not going to be space force anyway. That's NASA. Space force is basically just a bunch of recon satellites.
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Put Peter Weller in charge of Space Force.
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MikeJF posted:And that's not going to be space force anyway. That's NASA. Space force is basically just a bunch of recon satellites. Yeah like, it completely made sense to split off the Air Force because air power became a theater of war and major logistical concern in its own right after World War II. What happened last year that prompted us to create a sixth branch just for space, Trump had someone hit the cliff's notes of the wikipedia page of Moonraker for him?
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I love that the main point of that Space Force commercial is literally "We don't know why this branch should exist, could someone please give us some ideas".
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May 8, 2020 10:57
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They really ought to just change the name of the Air Force Space Command and tell Trump it's all new, he won't know the difference anyway.
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Humerus posted:They really ought to just change the name of the Air Force Space Command and tell Trump it's all new, he won't know the difference anyway. That's pretty much what they're doing. AFSC gets a new chair and new uniforms and takes over a few space things from the army and navy.
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MikeJF posted:That's pretty much what they're doing. AFSC gets a new chair and new uniforms and takes over a few space things from the army and navy. But they get to be 1/5 of the joint chiefs, and we have to spend billions to change a bunch of visual poo poo I guess the Pentagon was built for this moment
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Space force would have happened regardless of who became president, China has very nearly caught up to the US and the rest of the world in space flight development in record time and the American military establishment believes that conflict with them is inevitable
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It's astonishing how quickly China has been able to develop this *checks notes* 50-year-old technology. Real talk though Chinese lift rockets are still way behind American commercial rocket tech. SpaceX and Blue Origin are both in the final test stages of bleeding-edge densified cryogenic fuel rocket engines. The Chinese are still using UDMH/N2O4, which the US civilian launch sector abandoned in the 1960s. Their newest rocket is kinda like an Ariane 5 with slightly worse engines, which is still 30 years behind. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 20:12 on May 8, 2020 |
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Tighclops posted:Space force would have happened regardless of who became president, China has very nearly caught up to the US and the rest of the world in space flight development in record time and the American military establishment believes that conflict with them is inevitable Good thing we're getting ready to combat China and not pumping tons of money into Aircraft Carriers that will get sunk 600 miles off the coast by railguns and hypersonic missiles before they can send off any planes.
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May 8, 2020 20:02
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The real question is whether the PRC or the US would survive that war as a polity. The wheels aren't coming off yet but the lug nuts are wobbling.
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Thom12255 posted:Good thing we're getting ready to combat China and not pumping tons of money into Aircraft Carriers that will get sunk 600 miles off the coast by railguns and hypersonic missiles before they can send off any planes. If that one ship the US has been testing out is any indication, the carrier will not be attacked due to the futuristic gun rounds costing literally a million dollars each https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Gun_System?wprov=sfla1
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If you're at the point China is sinking US aircraft carriers you're not that far from nukes and Clancy chat. But one step closer to Star Trek 
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There's already a Steve Carrell comedy about Space Force: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61lz8WGqbg
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Arglebargle III posted:It's astonishing how quickly China has been able to develop this *checks notes* 50-year-old technology. they just tested their new space capsule last night, I think it's a toss-up whether it'll be them with their older tech or the Americans' army of private contractors will land on the moon first. Thom12255 posted:Good thing we're getting ready to combat China and not pumping tons of money into Aircraft Carriers that will get sunk 600 miles off the coast by railguns and hypersonic missiles before they can send off any planes. Hey I never said the US military knew what it was doing
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orcane posted:If you're at the point China is sinking US aircraft carriers you're not that far from nukes and Clancy chat. the good news: the world is getting closer to a star trek utopia the bad news: we won't be part of the star trek utopia, we're right before the khan and cochrane parts
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