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the guy who has bought like every major flagship phone in the past three years has decided that this is the one he definitely won't be gettingbull3964 posted:The Pixel 5 may be the first mainline Pixel device I skip because it's pretty much looking like it's going to be "Pixel 4 + 5g via the SD765).
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i've yet to understand the need to have the newest phone all the time. What are you all using your phones for where having the newest increment is necessary?
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May 8, 2020 20:52
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Boiled Water posted:i've yet to understand the need to have the newest phone all the time. What are you all using your phones for where having the newest increment is necessary? a lot of them are suckers for the One New Gimmick every manufacturer sticks in their new phone that you use for a week and then never touch again.
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May 8, 2020 20:54
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Boiled Water posted:i've yet to understand the need to have the newest phone all the time. What are you all using your phones for where having the newest increment is necessary? that emptiness in your soul isn’t going to fill itself
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May 8, 2020 20:56
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The Management posted:that emptiness in your soul isn’t going to fill itself its this op
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May 8, 2020 20:57
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Boiled Water posted:i've yet to understand the need to have the newest phone all the time. What are you all using your phones for where having the newest increment is necessary? at one point improvements were huge, and people are creatures of habit, even into the current era of things being as likely to get worse.
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May 8, 2020 21:05
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:at one point improvements were huge, and people are creatures of habit, even into the current era of things being as likely to get worse. that point was ten years ago the people in dyp and that guy in particular is literally just trying to fill a hole. in his case theres a bit of forums cred at stake too as there are more than a few people who have defined their entire personality around "gosh guys i just love buying stuff" and they cant walk that back
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May 8, 2020 21:21
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I have disposable income and I like a fresh phone every year because I want the fastest poo poo. With that being said, I have no idea why that dude buys multiple android flagships per year when they are all basically the same down to the chipset, ram, etc. Buying a broke rear end mid ranger every two years sounds like a nightmare.
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May 8, 2020 21:22
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CoolRanch posted:I have disposable income and I like a fresh phone every year because I want the fastest poo poo. With that being said, I have no idea why that dude buys multiple android flagships per year when they are all basically the same down to the chipset, ram, etc. Buying a broke rear end mid ranger every two years sounds like a nightmare. its a disease called a capitalism. i mean yeah i guess if you have the money and spend a lot of time loving around on your phone sure get a new one every year. i dont see a lot of improvement yoy but u b u who cares the ones that get me are the ones going through the cheapest chinese phones and mvno plans at a rate of like one a month trying to minmax their telecommunications strategy i go there just to help out people who have trouble with their phones (which are fewer and farther between these days) but honestly the chronic phonebuyers make it so miserable i only check the threads every few days now
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May 8, 2020 21:46
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LastInLine posted:its a disease called a capitalism. i mean yeah i guess if you have the money and spend a lot of time loving around on your phone sure get a new one every year. i dont see a lot of improvement yoy but u b u who cares does clam down still shut down any discussion that contains actual criticism of bad devices?
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May 8, 2020 21:50
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carry on then posted:does clam down still shut down any discussion that contains actual criticism of bad devices? you can call a device bad but there cant be any discussion around the negative implications of the ecosystem. so sure i can tell you that motorolas have bad cameras but i cant tell you that facebook datamining causes apps to crash. i can tell you that the pixel 4 has a small battery but couldnt point out that chinese phones are backdoored etc any interesting discussion (which admittedly is super rare) is shut down immediately
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May 8, 2020 22:39
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Boiled Water posted:i've yet to understand the need to have the newest phone all the time. What are you all using your phones for where having the newest increment is necessary? beep boop why does human expend resources on status symbol
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May 9, 2020 11:30
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Soricidus posted:beep boop why does human expend resources on status symbol android phones as status symbols? Now I've heard everything
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May 9, 2020 11:32
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sure. same principle as sports cars, they don’t have to be usable or reliable, just flashy and expensive. see: every single foldable
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May 9, 2020 13:21
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LastInLine posted:any interesting discussion (which admittedly is super rare) is shut down immediately yospos, bithc
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May 9, 2020 14:23
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LastInLine posted:you can call a device bad but there cant be any discussion around the negative implications of the ecosystem. so sure i can tell you that motorolas have bad cameras but i cant tell you that facebook datamining causes apps to crash. i can tell you that the pixel 4 has a small battery but couldnt point out that chinese phones are backdoored etc clam down is so bad
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May 9, 2020 22:22
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four years into the pixel phone line, sales are going not so goodquote:Google shipped around 2 million units of the Pixel 4 in the first two quarters it was available, at the end of 2019 and beginning of 2020, according to IDC's estimates, a drop from the 3.5 million Pixel 3 and nearly 3 million Pixel 3a models that shipped in the first two quarters of their availability. In the U.S., Google's largest market, it had just 3% market share of the smartphone market last year, said IDC. also executives are bailing out quote:The mastermind behind Google's Pixel camera, Marc Levoy, who last year showed off his team's photography advances during a Google event in New York City, left the company in March. The exit, which hasn't been previously reported, follows the departure of Pixel general manager Mario Queiroz, the second top executive to leave the Pixel orbit in less than a year but the funniest part is quote:At a hardware team all-hands meeting in the fall, ahead of the October launch in New York, Osterloh informed staff about his own misgivings. He told them he did not agree with some of the decisions made about the phone, according to two people who were present at the meeting. In particular, he was disappointed in its battery power. osterloh is the head of google hardware. he makes the decisions. is he not agreeing with himself? texts are copied from The Information via https://www.androidcentral.com/mastermind-pixels-excellent-camera-has-left-google
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May 13, 2020 17:11
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how many dollars has google spent trying to make their own phones? if you include their writedowns from motorola it's got to be like 15 billion easy
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May 13, 2020 17:14
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Soricidus posted:beep boop why does human expend resources on status symbol They're spending money on poorphones though
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May 13, 2020 17:17
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qirex posted:how many dollars has google spent trying to make their own phones? if you include their writedowns from motorola it's got to be like 15 billion easy its amazing
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May 13, 2020 17:21
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nothing will ever surpass microsoft spending like 100 grand per shipped unit making the kin but those numbers have got to be deep underwater
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May 13, 2020 17:26
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qirex posted:nothing will ever surpass microsoft spending like 100 grand per shipped unit making the kin but those numbers have got to be deep underwater Was that the big-rear end tableputer?
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May 13, 2020 17:28
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Clearly a hundred grand per unit well spent, no one even remembers it.
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May 13, 2020 17:29
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Schadenboner posted:Was that the big-rear end tableputer? it was the social networking orientated phone they made after buying up Danger lasted like 2 months
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May 13, 2020 17:31
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Schadenboner posted:Was that the big-rear end tableputer? no it was super way cool non-smartphones for teens that they only sold for six weeks in 2010 because they were such a flop they spent over a billion buying danger and designing them and sold several thousand units total
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May 13, 2020 17:33
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qirex posted:how many dollars has google spent trying to make their own phones? if you include their writedowns from motorola it's got to be like 15 billion easy idk that its fair to count motorola when they bought them solely for the patents that ended up being worthless FMguru posted:google manages to be worse with hardware than apple is with cloud services, gaming, and original content combined while what you say is true it seems less amazing to me from outside the tech sector. googles problem with hardware is the same problem it has everywhere in that there seems to be no consistent direction from the top and that does things like create pointless things no one wants (stadia or nexus q or android tv) or makes everything shift direction every couple years (our phones are development platforms no wait theyre iphone competitors no okay) and due to googles lack of ability to iterate the products they do have languish and disappear rather than get revised to be slightly better at regular intervals to me its stranger that apple cant make a cloud service since you just have to copy what everyone else is doing than google shipping products that are exactly what you'd expect from a company with adhd and no adults in the room
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May 13, 2020 17:35
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qirex posted:no it was super way cool non-smartphones for teens that they only sold for six weeks in 2010 because they were such a flop iirc they tanked the launch and had exclusivity with a carrier no one used, with a mandatory plan that was absolutely terrible for their target market, and they were about a year too late to market
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May 13, 2020 17:50
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the microsoft kin by danger? you mean the portable chumby?
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infernal machines posted:iirc they tanked the launch and had exclusivity with a carrier no one used, with a mandatory plan that was absolutely terrible for their target market, and they were about a year too late to market their launch partner was verizon the only reason i remember was because it was often cited that it was that contract with verizon that required them to actually launch the phone rather than just kill it also an obvious way to tell it was verizon is that there was one mandatory plan that no one could afford
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May 13, 2020 17:54
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So what happened to the Tableputer?
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May 13, 2020 18:53
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google might actually add features to YouTube music this year, maybe even before killing off Google music. which is great because what everyone wants when they listen to music is actually a bunch of videos with weird extra intros and stuff taking up a large portion of the search results
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May 13, 2020 18:58
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Schadenboner posted:So what happened to the Tableputer? it was called surface*, and it got turned into a digital whiteboard solution for enterprise *they reused the brand for their tablets years later
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May 13, 2020 18:59
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Jenny Agutter posted:google might actually add features to YouTube music this year, maybe even before killing off Google music. which is great because what everyone wants when they listen to music is actually a bunch of videos with weird extra intros and stuff taking up a large portion of the search results wonder what youtube music's successors are shaping up to be like?
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May 13, 2020 18:59
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kinda sad about pixel's inevitable demise I have a 3a and it's had a good telephone / $ proposition. camera is really nice. the battery is too small though
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May 13, 2020 23:44
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Last Chance posted:wonder what youtube music's successors are shaping up to be like? chrome music
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May 14, 2020 00:38
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i wonder what the plan is for stadia microsoft had to spend a couple billion to break into the game console space 15 years ago, presumably the number would be in the tens of billions today.
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May 14, 2020 01:01
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infernal machines posted:iirc they tanked the launch and had exclusivity with a carrier no one used, with a mandatory plan that was absolutely terrible for their target market, and they were about a year too late to market i think i was going to send this to you but i never managed to see whether any of my wife's data is on it or how to wipe it given that the screen is broken 
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DuckConference posted:i wonder what the plan is for stadia if it goes by the google playbook, I’d say the plan is to alienate content owners and then abandon it
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May 14, 2020 01:07
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Lysidas posted:i think i was going to send this to you but i never managed to see whether any of my wife's data is on it or how to wipe it given that the screen is broken will it even finish booting without the backed services?
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The Management posted:if it goes by the google playbook, I’d say the plan is to alienate content owners and then abandon it oh, no, that was a rim product
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