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Snow Cone Capone posted:If that one ship the US has been testing out is any indication, the carrier will not be attacked due to the futuristic gun rounds costing literally a million dollars each https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Gun_System?wprov=sfla1 If "they wouldn't bankrupt themselves to actually fight us!" was a valid strategy everyone would do it. Sadly, many governments have no problem racking up kabillions in debt to kill people
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piratepilates posted:the good news: the world is getting closer to a star trek utopia But hey, we get to explore the solar system in DY-100s for a while before it all goes kablooey, so at least we've got that to look forward to.
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May 9, 2020 00:05
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Just watched "Mirror, Mirror" with a friend. How long do you guys think it took for Spock to realize Kirk wasn't Kirk? My friend's idea is that stepping off a transporter pad and doing a nazi salute would've raised enough eyebrows.
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May 9, 2020 00:11
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Just watched "Mirror, Mirror" with a friend. How long do you guys think it took for Spock to realize Kirk wasn't Kirk? My friend's idea is that stepping off a transporter pad and doing a nazi salute would've raised enough eyebrows. Such a good comedy moment of Kirk worrying about the mischief Mirror Kirk might be up to immediately cutting to Spock throwing him in the brig.
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May 9, 2020 00:44
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Just watched "Mirror, Mirror" with a friend. How long do you guys think it took for Spock to realize Kirk wasn't Kirk? My friend's idea is that stepping off a transporter pad and doing a nazi salute would've raised enough eyebrows. He wouldn't salute first, because he's the senior officer. But depending on just how poor his impulse control was, he might well have immediately thrown a tantrum over not being saluted.
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Powered Descent posted:But hey, we get to explore the solar system in DY-100s for a while before it all goes kablooey, so at least we've got that to look forward to. Sign me up for the cryo-satellite that gets thrown out of orbit and drifts for 300 years before being discovered by the ship full of super-advanced post-scarcity pan-species peaceniks plz
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May 9, 2020 03:06
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McSpanky posted:Sign me up for the cryo-satellite that gets thrown out of orbit and drifts for 300 years before being discovered by the ship full of super-advanced post-scarcity pan-species peaceniks plz That episode is so dumb. Like come on man you don't have anyone in your 1,000 person ship complement that might want to like, take those people around and give them the down low on the 24th Century? Like, the 20th century historian you inexplicably have on board??? I mean I know it wouldn't be much of an episode or whatever but the conceit of finding people who have been frozen since our time was far too interesting to be relegated to the b-plot in an otherwise uninteresting episode. No I'm not bitter about this wasted premise every single time I see this episode why do you ask?
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May 9, 2020 04:33
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DrNutt posted:That episode is so dumb. Like come on man you don't have anyone in your 1,000 person ship complement that might want to like, take those people around and give them the down low on the 24th Century? Like, the 20th century historian you inexplicably have on board??? I mean I know it wouldn't be much of an episode or whatever but the conceit of finding people who have been frozen since our time was far too interesting to be relegated to the b-plot in an otherwise uninteresting episode.
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May 9, 2020 05:16
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jeeves posted:Imagine that basically the bridge crew was so fukken bored that they took in these old time hicks for fun just for something to do besides the loving fish people ambassadors fighting those dog fucks Yeah and if they didn't have the a plot of the neutral zone poo poo going on that would work and be a fine episode
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May 9, 2020 05:18
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DrNutt posted:That episode is so dumb. idk man the good ol' boy drunkard who replicates a martini and a guitar is pretty good I'm reasonably sure the evil banker rear end in a top hat showed up again somewhere in beta canon. Edit: oh yeah apparently multiple times even. One novel has him serving as Federation ambassador to the Ferengi Alliance (fuckin' what), another one about Khan's origin story makes him responsible for funding the scientists who created Khan in 1970, and another has him as Federation Secretary of Commerce  And re: ol' Sonny Clemonds: quote:The Star Trek: Department of Temporal Investigations book Watching the Clock reveals that he and Clare Raymond had a one-night stand, more to comfort each other over their shared fates than anything else. He also made a career out of singing obscure old Earth songs across the galaxy. God beta canon is weird sometimes and I love it. Drone fucked around with this message at 08:04 on May 9, 2020 |
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May 9, 2020 08:02
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I think he’s the Federation ambassador to Ferenginar, which is honestly kinda clever.
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May 9, 2020 08:04
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I mean I liked those dorks it just felt like the whole concept of the episode was wasted with bad writing, weird tangents, and a lackluster a plot but tbf that does describe a lot of the 1st two seasons.
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May 9, 2020 08:24
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The Neutral Zone was, I believe, right about the time the writer's strike hit, so even if they were aware the script needed more polish they weren't able to fix it.
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May 9, 2020 08:59
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I was inspired by the delta fliers to start re-watching voyager I’m ahead on parallax and ho boy the techno-babble. But at least it’s not the main story I liked the Torres stuff. Oh and tiny doc at the end that owned.
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May 9, 2020 10:59
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I’m midway through S2 of TNG and boy a lot of this is just super painful. When does it get better? S3?
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May 9, 2020 15:53
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Seasons 3-5 are just hit after hit with very few stinkers.
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May 9, 2020 15:55
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Arivia posted:I’m midway through S2 of TNG and boy a lot of this is just super painful. When does it get better? S3? Season 3 is the best single season of Star Trek there ever was. Sure there are a few mediocre ones in there but man, the rest are just all super memorable and good. TNG peaks at Season 3, then has a really long, good plateau for seasons 4 and 5, and then starts to slope downwards until the finale.
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May 9, 2020 17:02
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Are you saying that TNG Season 7, the season with the Howard Family Sex Ghost, really lovely de-evolution, and a cellular peptide cake might not be the best season of Star Trek?
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Drone posted:TNG peaks at Season 3, then has a really long, good plateau for seasons 4 and 5, and then starts to slope downwards until the finale. And thank gently caress the finale knocked it out of the park.
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May 9, 2020 17:21
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Hipster_Doofus posted:And thank gently caress the finale knocked it out of the park. Yeah, the Best of Both Worlds is great. It's just the same thing as why I'd never seen In The Pale Moonlight before; I've been a fan, but I've never sat down and watched any of the series completely end to end. I know it's good, but watching stuff like The Outrageous Okona is being done with my head in my hands out of sheer embarrassment.
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curiousTerminal posted:Are you saying that TNG Season 7, the season with the Howard Family Sex Ghost, really lovely de-evolution, and a cellular peptide cake might not be the best season of Star Trek? I like the cellular peptide cake episode
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curiousTerminal posted:Are you saying that TNG Season 7, the season with the Howard Family Sex Ghost, really lovely de-evolution, and a cellular peptide cake might not be the best season of Star Trek? You're forgetting about the bad murder mystery episode.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:You're forgetting about the bad murder mystery episode. Has there legit ever been a good Star Trek murder mystery episode?
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May 9, 2020 19:51
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Has there legit ever been a good Star Trek murder mystery episode? Been watching DS9 and the noir-esque one about Odo's time investigating on behalf of the Cardassians during the occupation was pretty drat good, imo. Especially when he finally finds out whodunnit.
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May 9, 2020 19:55
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Has there legit ever been a good Star Trek murder mystery episode? The Conscience of the King
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skasion posted:The Conscience of the King It's a good episode but it's obvs whodunit in that one.
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DrNutt posted:Been watching DS9 and the noir-esque one about Odo's time investigating on behalf of the Cardassians during the occupation was pretty drat good, imo. Especially when he finally finds out whodunnit. Oh yeah, that one was really good. As for Conscience of the King, I could never make it through that one.
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May 9, 2020 20:02
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The trouble with a murder mystery is you’d have to have a mostly unknown dramatis personae because obviously the murderer isn’t going to be Riker or Dax or Saru.
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May 9, 2020 20:21
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The_Doctor posted:or Dax 
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The_Doctor posted:The trouble with a murder mystery is you’d have to have a mostly unknown dramatis personae because obviously the murderer isn’t going to be Riker or Dax or Saru. improved ds9 season 7 where every time ezri solves a murder, it was garak, and everyone shrugs it off
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May 9, 2020 20:27
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Has there legit ever been a good Star Trek murder mystery episode? There are a bunch of columbo episodes with shatner in them
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May 9, 2020 20:33
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Has there legit ever been a good Star Trek murder mystery episode? City on the Edge of Forever is kind of a reverse-murder mystery.
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Tighclops posted:There are a bunch of columbo episodes with shatner in them
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Tighclops posted:There are a bunch of columbo episodes with shatner in them pft. you should see mrs. columbo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zykxt65Kps
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We're finally starting season 5 on our TNG binge now, and I'd have to say that so far I definitely feel like it's the best the show has been. And since I think this is the point where I actually started regularly watching it as a kid, I know there's more really great stuff ahead. I can definitely see season 4 being weaker than 3, but 5 is at least off to a great start. Even a fairly lame episode like "The Game" has a TOS charm to it, rather than just sheer boredom. Speaking of "The Game" I finally had the answer to the question my wife asked halfway through "Up the Long Ladder": "So when does Gene Roddenberry die?" Somehow "The Game" feels cosmically aligned to be Roddenberry's epitaph, even though it only happened coincidentally by airdate. It has Risa, everyone acting vaguely horny, Wesley getting some action...
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S5 has Darmok, Cause and Effect and Inner Light which are all top-five episodes in the show for me. I really don’t agree that the show peaked in S3. It’s the first season that doesn’t feel half assed but they definitely refined it over the next couple years. The first episode that really makes me feel like the show was on the way down is Aquiel in S6, but even that comes right before the Romulan Troi episode which is awesome.
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May 10, 2020 02:15
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I think seasons 5-6 are remembered fondly because that's when the show really dug into a consistent tone we'd come to associate with TNG. Season 5 is really solid and has some major gems, but that's also when they started doing stuff like "Unification" and the series kind of became about itself to some extent. Season 3 is just wall-to-wall enjoyable self-contained adventures. Season 6 has some great stuff, but it also has some of the most vanilla installments of the series, like Birthright and that Dr. Crusher murder mystery one.
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May 10, 2020 02:32
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I think seasons 5-6 are remembered fondly because that's when the show really dug into a consistent tone we'd come to associate with TNG. Season 5 is really solid and has some major gems, but that's also when they started doing stuff like "Unification" and the series kind of became about itself to some extent. Season 3 is just wall-to-wall enjoyable self-contained adventures. Honestly I think that's what's throwing me. I'm used to watching TNG as disjointed episodes in reruns or whatever, just this familiar blanket of science-fiction-y goodness that I really liked as a kid. S2 isn't tonally, consistently there yet; S1 felt a lot like TOS (understandably). I have this nostalgic desire to kind of fastforward to the show really burgeoning into a franchise and a brand again, when I'm six and flipping through my copy of the Star Trek Encyclopedia. S2 just isn't there yet for me, there are good episodes but it's not my familiar 90s Trek yet.
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May 10, 2020 02:36
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I think seasons 5-6 are remembered fondly because that's when the show really dug into a consistent tone we'd come to associate with TNG. Season 5 is really solid and has some major gems, but that's also when they started doing stuff like "Unification" and the series kind of became about itself to some extent. Season 3 is just wall-to-wall enjoyable self-contained adventures. I agree, Season 5 is what people think of when they think of The Next Generation's overall tone. It's the apex of Trek as comfort food, and not in a bad microwave dinner way.
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