shovelbum posted:What's going to happen to pet food going back to feeding them table scraps, bones, and other things humans don't eat like we did for the 15,000 years before pet food existed?
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Lady Militant posted:going back to feeding them table scraps, bones, and other things humans don't eat like we did for the 15,000 years before pet food existed? The average urban household didn't have 200+ lbs of dog to feed
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May 10, 2020 19:22
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Lady Militant posted:going back to feeding them table scraps, bones, and other things humans don't eat like we did for the 15,000 years before pet food existed? that's what pet food is. it's the organ meat and such that's already kinda going bad and isn't considered safe for human consumption, so they grind it up and pack it together into nutrient cubes
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May 10, 2020 19:23
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Hundreds of people don’t stand shoulder to shoulder all day long at pet food plants so it should be more like every other area of manufacturing. It might break down but it isn’t the same as meat packing places.
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May 10, 2020 19:23
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Admiral Ray posted:my costco was entirely out of non-breaded chicken today. there wasn't even a spot for it in the coolers or freezers. "welp time to crucify myself in the costco parking lot!"
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May 10, 2020 19:23
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The Archaic posted:"welp time to crucify myself in the costco parking lot!" wandering around costco for hours, calling out for chicken. the mployees try to force me to leave but i know my rights.
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May 10, 2020 19:24
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SKULL.GIF posted:
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May 10, 2020 19:25
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fosborb posted:rural communities absolutely believe this is a city disease. i once caught a cold on a flight to visit my rural family and within a week like a dozen people had it. airlines are still overbooking and cramming people into random flights https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/05/is-flying-safe-coronavirus/611335/ Notorious R.I.M. posted:Siberia is also way more on fire than usual. Like million acre+ megafires already this year. sweet let's throw a Permian–Triassic extinction event onto the pile
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May 10, 2020 19:25
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Admiral Ray posted:that's what pet food is. it's the organ meat and such that's already kinda going bad and isn't considered safe for human consumption, so they grind it up and pack it together into nutrient cubes mhmmm
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May 10, 2020 19:25
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Thoguh posted:Hundreds of people don’t stand shoulder to shoulder all day long at pet food plants so it should be more like every other area of manufacturing. It might break down but it isn’t the same as meat packing places. It relies on a constant volume of animals being slaughtered tho
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May 10, 2020 19:25
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So have we seen a non meat plant rural outbreak yet or are the chuds probably safe despite our wishes
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May 10, 2020 19:26
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dog food isn't bad, tbh. pretty bland. dog treats taste like actual cardboard. i suggest adding salt or bbq sauce. cat food is gross.
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May 10, 2020 19:26
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My mom is going to be really disappointed when I can't visit for Christmas because of corona-chan
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May 10, 2020 19:27
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Giant Metal Robot posted:Feel free. I'm updating it later today to hang longer on the last frame and dot the projection parts of it. Cool I've posted a lot of words on https://realgoodcovidtracker.com/projections/ and will add more when I find that takedown of the older IHME projections if I can get cspam's death estimate published somewhere, all this effort will be worth it
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May 10, 2020 19:27
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Admiral Ray posted:cat food is gross. My roommate concurs. I think it smells like Vienna sausages, and those are pretty good.
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May 10, 2020 19:28
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shovelbum posted:So have we seen a non meat plant rural outbreak yet or are the chuds probably safe despite our wishes A bunch of plants around here have had cases but other than meatpacking plants it’s been sporadic.
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May 10, 2020 19:29
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Charun posted:Cool 
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May 10, 2020 19:30
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Thoguh posted:A bunch of plants around here have had cases but other than meatpacking plants it’s been sporadic. Yeah I think it probably will end up being a city disease honestly the kind of prolonged mass indoor contact at work just seems like not something you see in extractive industry or agriculture or whatever rurals do
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May 10, 2020 19:31
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my cats are annoying enough about food can't wait to return to ye olde days of them screaming at me to toss them a pheasant bone or whatever
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May 10, 2020 19:32
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Lady Militant posted:going back to feeding them table scraps, bones, and other things humans don't eat like we did for the 15,000 years before pet food existed? they weren't "pets" back then, they were working animals and often got their own food. "pets" are just things upper middle class and rich people have to pamper so the money does not get spent on poors
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May 10, 2020 19:32
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Lets stimulate the economy the Trump way Art Laffer lol the guy that has been hilariously wrong with every idea he has ever had
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May 10, 2020 19:32
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shovelbum posted:It relies on a constant volume of animals being slaughtered tho a lot of that is dead stock, p sure the farmer who slaughter t he dead animal can still sell it to dead stock processors
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May 10, 2020 19:34
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Charun posted:Cool This is getting cooler by the day
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May 10, 2020 19:34
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MysteriousStranger posted:they weren't "pets" back then, they were working animals and often got their own food. "pets" are just things upper middle class and rich people have to pamper so the money does not get spent on poors If they get their own food I get yelled at for letting them kill birds!
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May 10, 2020 19:35
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shovelbum posted:Yeah I think it probably will end up being a city disease honestly the kind of prolonged mass indoor contact at work just seems like not something you see in extractive industry or agriculture or whatever rurals do church
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May 10, 2020 19:36
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shovelbum posted:Yeah I think it probably will end up being a city disease honestly the kind of prolonged mass indoor contact at work just seems like not something you see in extractive industry or agriculture or whatever rurals do in a lot of these areas the whole rugged loner hermit thing is just an affectation. They'll catch it crammed into a TJ Maxx or Wal Mart or diner and their sense of invulnerability will lead to big vectors like theaters and church services staying open to make up for the lack of density. The only reason numbers would stay down is because there's also probably no testing or ICU beds
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May 10, 2020 19:36
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Siberia is also way more on fire than usual. Like million acre+ megafires already this year. Aren't there legit fears that the permafrost tundra melting could unleash dormant viruses? I seem to remember reading about French scientists there defrosting samples from an ice core and viruses that had been dormant for 30,000 years sprang back to life and began reproducing once they reached room temperature.
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May 10, 2020 19:36
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this is a lovely time but as we live on hell on earth i can get some happiness from slowly working my way through a modernized doom 2 hell on earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr8tN6eisAY
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May 10, 2020 19:36
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Epic High Five posted:in a lot of these areas the whole rugged loner hermit thing is just an affectation. They'll catch it crammed into a TJ Maxx or Wal Mart or diner and their sense of invulnerability will lead to big vectors like theaters and church services staying open to make up for the lack of density. The only reason numbers would stay down is because there's also probably no testing or ICU beds You're not in those places 10 hours a day like you are at an office or whatever though, it's just a lot less opportunity to spread
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May 10, 2020 19:39
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MysteriousStranger posted:they weren't "pets" back then, they were working animals and often got their own food. "pets" are just things upper middle class and rich people have to pamper so the money does not get spent on poors the idea only middle class and rich people have things they care about and take care of is downright sociopathic as well as completely a-historical. having a cats or dogs wasn't some massive extravagance or pure exercise in cold blooded logic. they have been a part of our journey throughout history as friends/companions helping us as we help them. stop projecting your own inability to connect with other living things on people lol
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May 10, 2020 19:39
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BMX Ninja posted:Aren't there legit fears that the permafrost tundra melting could unleash dormant viruses? I seem to remember reading about French scientists there defrosting samples from an ice core and viruses that had been dormant for 30,000 years sprang back to life and began reproducing once they reached room temperature. idk maybe but viruses need a host to reproduce. maybe some dormant do bacteria are in there. those areas that are burning have very low to no population any way.
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shovelbum posted:You're not in those places 10 hours a day like you are at an office or whatever though, it's just a lot less opportunity to spread yeah but there's also zero effort or will to prevent spread so it probably evens out, church services are a huge vector because it's cramped and enclosed and also singing generates the same droplet density that coughing does
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May 10, 2020 19:41
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The Archaic posted:"welp time to crucify myself in the costco parking lot!" Colorado Costcos usually get 143,000 cases of meat. they got 93,000 this week
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May 10, 2020 19:41
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BMX Ninja posted:Aren't there legit fears that the permafrost tundra melting could unleash dormant viruses? I seem to remember reading about French scientists there defrosting samples from an ice core and viruses that had been dormant for 30,000 years sprang back to life and began reproducing once they reached room temperature. the thing about a virus for it to be successful is it can't just instantly liquefy the host or else it won't be able to spread as people tend to react quite aggressively to people getting all melty outa nowhere. a dormant super virus that eats yah like a boomer chowing down at a golden corral isn't going to be able to make it outside of the Siberian region.
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May 10, 2020 19:42
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BMX Ninja posted:Aren't there legit fears that the permafrost tundra melting could unleash dormant viruses? I seem to remember reading about French scientists there defrosting samples from an ice core and viruses that had been dormant for 30,000 years sprang back to life and began reproducing once they reached room temperature. this was a tv show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egy3n-7DQAU
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May 10, 2020 19:43
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BMX Ninja posted:Aren't there legit fears that the permafrost tundra melting could unleash dormant viruses? I seem to remember reading about French scientists there defrosting samples from an ice core and viruses that had been dormant for 30,000 years sprang back to life and began reproducing once they reached room temperature. https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/09/02/1510795112.abstract quote:The saga of giant viruses (i.e. visible by light microscopy) started in 2003 with the discovery of Mimivirus. Two additional types of giant viruses infecting Acanthamoeba have been discovered since: the Pandoraviruses (2013) and Pithovirus sibericum (2014), the latter one revived from 30,000-y-old Siberian permafrost. We now describe Mollivirus sibericum, a fourth type of giant virus isolated from the same permafrost sample. These four types of giant virus exhibit different virion structures, sizes (0.6–1.5 µm), genome length (0.6–2.8 Mb), and replication cycles. Their origin and mode of evolution are the subject of conflicting hypotheses. The fact that two different viruses could be easily revived from prehistoric permafrost should be of concern in a context of global warming.
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May 10, 2020 19:51
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Charun posted:Cool Made my updates.  And why the hell not. 
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May 10, 2020 19:53
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Crusader posted:The fact that two different viruses could be easily revived from prehistoric permafrost should be of concern in a context of global warming. Trump Intensifies: "We have to sue the dinosaurs!" *Gives banks Trillions of dollars*
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May 10, 2020 19:53
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Schnorkles posted:i mean i also agree that the state should arrest bill gates and seize all his assets but not for the same reason as the protestors  and all billionaires.
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if i were assaulted by a pteradon at some fantastical 'jurassic world' i would simply sue the dinosaur in a court of law yes they are gigntic superpredators but theyw ould be no match for our modern judicial system
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