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Failed Imagineer posted:Daily reminder that it started because he lost a ball and developed a pathology about emasculation Actually it's because he made a transphobic joke and kept doubling down, but his balls didn't help.
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LMAO, to absolutely no-one's surprise the farmers are getting completely tossed under the bus so the UK can do a trade deal with the US. They're slipping out the new farm bill while everyone's looking at corona: quote:The U.K. Agriculture Bill returns to the House of Commons today, but farmers are worried their trade demands are being ignored. The National Farmers’ Union has urged the government to legislate for protection against animal product imports made to lower standards than in the U.K., for fear their market could be undercut. But the government has refused, despite promising not to allow low-standard imports as part of future trade deals, and has still not set up a promised standards commission on trade.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Actually it's because he made a transphobic joke and kept doubling down, but his balls didn't help. I'm maybe misremembering, but wasn't it also initially brought with him in a very gentle way (something like "this joke in father Ted hasn't aged well") and instead of acknowledging it, or even saying saying non committal, he took this as some huge insult to his genius brain?
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zentigeist posted:Does Glinner actually self appoint himself king of the feminists?  Gonzo McFee posted:but his balls didn't help.
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Weird that he's so transphobic given the powerful "I want to be one of the girls" energy coming off that tweet.
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Niric posted:I'm maybe misremembering, but wasn't it also initially brought with him in a very gentle way (something like "this joke in father Ted hasn't aged well") and instead of acknowledging it, or even saying saying non committal, he took this as some huge insult to his genius brain? Yeah if I remember right he was palling around with a few liberal trans women who got big during gamergate and then lost it when some of them said "Hey that one IT Crowd episode sucks". There's also some intensely creepy poo poo where he became super loving angry that a trans woman whose DMs he'd been in turned out to not be attractive to him. Don't really think any of these Suddenly caused a heel turn as such, my experience with Burned Allies is there's usually like longterm weird resentment and bad vibes until they snap. Similarly: Ian Miles Cheong. He used to be like an overloud ally but he completely flipped a poo poo when he finally had enough of women saying such cruel terrible things as "The sex cards in The Witcher are a bit cringey"
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:It might not be. I found experian seems to lag by a month-6 weeks. Been meaning to shill my energy supplier in this thread. https://peoplesenergy.co.uk/ It's a member owned cooperative, and while the prices may not be the best (I'm one of those people who CBA checking the prices every year) they're pretty good, the electricity and some of the gas are from renewable sources, and they haven't tried any shady stuff in the last 3 years.
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https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1260465038881685505 Mysteriously the Government's Jump in the pool but don't get wet directive got people wet
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If there’s a push for renewed austerity measures, there has to be a counter-push for a general strike. You can’t austerity your way out of a recession, we have always known that. These pricks have only got one button to push and they know they’re lying about what it does.
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https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1260482503275667456 I loving hate Little Shite Dudley
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i vaguely remember another one of Gralam Inner's things at one point being something like "everyone gets gender dysphoria" (implied, "so why are trans people complaining"). he's a mess of intersecting issuesJaeluni Asjil posted:I think we're going to start seeing a subtle undermining of the key/essential workers picking up speed over the next few months to 'put them back in their place' after all this 'hero' stuff. There's a pretty good episode of Politics Theory Other with grumpy economic historian Philip Mirowski on this: https://soundcloud.com/poltheoryother/85-never-let-a-serious-crisis-go-to-waste-w-philip-mirowski Incidentally, might be an idea to put this podcast in the OP, it's the official podcast of Tribune magazine and they've had a lot of interesting guests
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1260465038881685505 When I see stuff like this it reminds me of the show Chernobyl where people are sticking their heads over the chimney or kicking radioactive rocks about in sandals. When I was watching it I was like 'hurr, thatd never happen nowadays' - I'm now convinced if that happened in this country people would be using the nuclear core as a BBQ and saying the levels of radiation are just the same as what aeroplane cabin crew experience in a year and actually it's good for you.
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Filboid Studge posted:If there’s a push for renewed austerity measures, there has to be a counter-push for a general strike. You can’t austerity your way out of a recession, we have always known that. These pricks have only got one button to push and they know they’re lying about what it does.
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1260465038881685505 Just take some personal responsibility, stay alert and use your British common sense to not breathe in every virus particle on the bus, idiots. Does Boris have to hold your hand through everything?  https://twitter.com/Insurance_Rich/status/1259500576582381573?s=20 https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1260176536830869505?s=20 https://twitter.com/Jayne_JustJayne/status/1260177263590625280?s=20 https://twitter.com/Angelcynn_937/status/1260183946840735746?s=20 https://twitter.com/jackie_osbourn/status/1260226187776995330?s=20 I hope these people don't catch the coronavirus, but only because they'd absolutely manage to give it to someone else who didn't deserve it e: just noticed that last one is a good example of the people who've spent the last several weeks moralising at everyone about staying home and staying safe, have suddenly switched to mocking anyone who thinks that's a good idea still, but haven't yet updated their names/pictures to moralise at us about staying alert because they're idiots XMNN fucked around with this message at 09:40 on May 13, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/HSJEditor/status/1260469435183357954?s=20 Thank goodness we have all those tests.
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Junior G-man posted:https://twitter.com/HSJEditor/status/1260469435183357954?s=20 Massive irretrievable data loss!
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‘Gone missing’. I do take issue with ‘never waste a good crisis’ being a purely neoliberal mantra, there are colleagues of mine using it to push for just transition/broadly eco-Marxist outcomes. That said we are using natural capital etc to do it, because it’s the only way to communicate with neolibs
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justcola posted:When I see stuff like this it reminds me of the show Chernobyl where people are sticking their heads over the chimney or kicking radioactive rocks about in sandals. When I was watching it I was like 'hurr, thatd never happen nowadays' - I'm now convinced if that happened in this country people would be using the nuclear core as a BBQ and saying the levels of radiation are just the same as what aeroplane cabin crew experience in a year and actually it's good for you.  If instead of the VI Lenin NPP they'd built an equivalently sized coal power plant using 1970s technology, the number of dead through industrial accidents would be almost 5x higher over the life of the plant (and that's assuming Western coal industrial accident rates), and the number of reduced life months in the surrounding area 20-50% higher outside of the 10% worst exclusion zones if it were kept running. Which isn't to say that the whole thing wasn't a huge loving disaster, it's that the world's worst civil nuclear disaster is still safer than coal running properly. *looks at u Germany*
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Filboid Studge posted:I do take issue with ‘never waste a good crisis’ being a purely neoliberal mantra, there are colleagues of mine using it to push for just transition/broadly eco-Marxist outcomes. That said we are using natural capital etc to do it, because it’s the only way to communicate with neolibs
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Everyone's using all these words like neolibs, far left, far right, centrist, and all are being used as insults. As far as I can tell no one wants to set out what they are in actual words. But what do I know? I'm just a drone with no real political opinion beyond, "They're all idiots out for themselves." Not like I could do much better. Part of me wants to ask about all this, but I don't even know where to begin, because it's not even clear what the words mean.
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Neoliberalism is broadly the dominant political ideology since reagan and thatcher, characterised basically by privatizing everything, holding down taxes for the rich, cutting funding for public programs, breaking unions, basically trying to ruin people's ability to conceive of the government as something that can be a positive role in their lives, that being explicitly the goal of the reagan administration (he's where the phrase "starve the beast" comes from.) And the reason for this is because that goal combined with the active transfer of all facets of life over to private interests is a two pronged approach designed to empower the wealthy and destroy the systems that could threaten them, i.e the government and labour power. So yes, they're all idiots out for themselves, but if you think that's all politics could ever be, that's because the project has been extremely successful. Before that you had more of what would probably be called "the postwar consensus" which was broadly the idea that hey, actually, we maybe kinda need a lot of government involvement and society should at least sort of work for the people that compose it because the alternative is dogshit and also we're loving knackered after this big war we just had and we need a bunch of central planning to make civlization function, and also there's all these demobbed guys we trained to fight in the second world war and if we don't give them jobs and houses they might decide to fight us. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 10:29 on May 13, 2020 |
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Never forget that Thatcher died mad because she believed that her hyperindividualism and no-such-thing-as-society allowed people to express themselves as outside of conservative family norms once everything had collapsed. It's a cycle of destruction and rebirth. 
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I just remembered McDonalds are opening some of their restaurants up today: https://twitter.com/McDonaldsUK/status/1257595625757122560 Seems like Wednesday has been known in some circles as the Big Day for more than a week.
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HJB posted:I just remembered McDonalds are opening some of their restaurants up today: Still mad I'm half a mile outside the Dalston branch delivery radius.
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HJB posted:I just remembered McDonalds are opening some of their restaurants up today:
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My personal prediction is all this will lead to a massive second wave, where the government promptly panics and institutes a lockdown far stricter than the first. Great.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:My personal prediction is all this will lead to a massive second wave, where the government promptly panics and institutes a lockdown far stricter than the first. Or not. Now it's "personal responsibility" and "gotta keep the economy going!".
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There's some speculation that Assange has the 'rona now, being so unwell that even the extradition hearings cannot be conducted. I imagine it would be rather convenient if he were to die from it, since the US case isn't exactly watertight (but then again Manning et al).
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Suddenly Scotland doesn't look so bad for extending its lockdahahahaha no wait the Tories are still going to wax lyrical about the lazy Scotch drinking their Irn Bru, eating their deep fried Mars bars, no matter what we do
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Venomous posted:Suddenly Scotland doesn't look so bad for extending its lockdahahahaha no wait the Tories are still going to wax lyrical about the lazy Scotch drinking their Irn Bru, eating their deep fried Mars bars, no matter what we do Wales and NI are sticking to lockdown too. It's not just an England/Scotland thing Even Britain's hardest woman Arlene Foster has tacitly distanced herself from what Boris is doing 
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So the lockdown is just sort of ending anyway without us ever doing a proper one?
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HJB posted:I just remembered McDonalds are opening some of their restaurants up today: More likely the government is following McDonalds lead, as they did before.
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Comrade Fakename posted:"They" are not "all idiots out for themselves". There are plenty of good politicians out there. By buying into that framework you are falling into a trap set by those who really are out for themselves: the rich and those who reinforce the system that supports them. Where then? What little I keep seeing is them not doing their jobs, looking out only for themselves, constantly screwing over the people living in the country(Not just the UK, but all over the world), siphoning all the money for themselves and their mates, cutting services to the bone then blaming us for all the trouble thus caused whilst giving themselves or corporations massive bonuses that they will never give out or use for anything of any actual value, lowering education, paving over greenery, destroying health, killing everyone who's not their class or colour...And whenever anything somehow manages to get out, they defy all attempts and it dies. Never held to account, never hurt,. always laughing, never ever touched, Where the gently caress is the good? Bloodly fucked around with this message at 11:04 on May 13, 2020 |
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crispix posted:Wales and NI are sticking to lockdown too. It's not just an England/Scotland thing Bloodly posted:Where then? What little I keep seeing is them not doing their jobs, looking out only for themselves, constantly screwing over the people living in the country(Not just the UK, but all over the world), siphoning all the money for themselves and their mates, cutting services to the bone then blaming us for all the trouble thus caused whilst giving themselves or corporations massive bonuses that they will never give out or use for anything of any actual value, lowering education, paving over greenery, destroying health, killing everyone who's not their class or colour...
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Also as proof that there's people in the world that just want to help: *5 seconds later* we regret to inform you that the bread is racist
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1260465038881685505 Grant Shapps says he would not get on crowded bus or tube: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/13/grant-shapps-would-not-get-on-crowed-bus-tube-coronavirus-lockdown-eased So what do I do if the buses are teeming with people? Well, I just use my freedom loving solid British common sense and I say that's fine, I'll skip work today and I'll eat air and I'll be totally fine. Bastards.
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Communist Thoughts posted:So the lockdown is just sort of ending anyway without us ever doing a proper one?  Indeed!
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