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ijyt posted:Weird take cos I had the exact opposite opinion.
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Scientist Al Gore posted:Graphics are cool and all especially with the new Unreal Engine but doesn’t anyone want destructible environments? They haven’t improved since the original Red Faction and everything in Battlefield is pre-determined map elements. Lighting is the major roadblock for destructible environments, and the new lighting seems to be built to handle destruction well
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So has anything really new and exciting been gleaned from the GTC announcements as far as consumer gaming gpu’s? Seems like the leaked stats for the 30xx series look realistic based on the data center Gpu they released? Still rumored August/September for founders edition cards?
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May 14, 2020 19:04
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The leaks also 100% called no sign-on GFX, which is not exactly something that people would randomly predict given Nvidia's past stance on it. So someone is out there leaking what appears to be real information, only question is what is accurate...
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May 14, 2020 23:13
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Twibbit posted:Lighting is the major roadblock for destructible environments, and the new lighting seems to be built to handle destruction well Ah hah! That's a good point - doesn't UE4 just pre-render all the lighting as the game loads?
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May 14, 2020 23:24
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Scientist Al Gore posted:Ah hah! UE4 bakes the indirect lighting when the game is compiled, then it's just shipped with the game as data. Lights can be dynamic of course but dynamic ones don't cast indirect bounces. Taima posted:The leaks also 100% called no sign-on GFX, which is not exactly something that people would randomly predict given Nvidia's past stance on it. So someone is out there leaking what appears to be real information, only question is what is accurate... Where was it confirmed that they're dropping GFEs sign-in requirement? I can't find anything. repiv fucked around with this message at 00:19 on May 15, 2020 |
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K8.0 posted:This is a not a great take. For a long time we've been seeing CGI movies that are deliberately non-photorealistic, and the more usable and inexpensive the technology becomes, the more NPR movies and TV we're seeing. The technical constraints have applied across artistic visions, not just to the pursuit of photorealism. Especially in real-time graphics where not just accomplishing things but accomplishing them quickly is necessary, it is not the case that photorealism is a superset of other art styles. For example, doing a sketched art style requires techniques that are never used in the pursuit of photorealism. Real-time dynamic NPR art is entirely unique to real-time rendering, it doesn't exist anywhere else in reality. I'm just being galaxy brain about it. All art is human visual and aural input distorted and remixed by a human brain. The source data is ultimately reality, which we perceive as photons hitting our eyes (also sound, touch and other senses). A photorealistic renderer is simplified simulation of reality which can also be filtered, through a human or programmatically, to become a non-realistic depiction.
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I don't understand why anyone would at all be surprised by today's news. NVIDIA has solidified their hold on the enterprise market, they know AMD is about to drop in with both new consoles and thus obviously didn't fire their best shot, because they still have the performance advantage. They didn't have to. Additional interconnects and memory bandwidth are largely going to pad the stats on commercial and large-scale apps. That's where the money is at. Now AMD gets to make pennies on the dollar on low-margin chips for the rest of the year. [I'm saying this was done to preserve share value if it wasn't obvious.]
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Their best shot? Not sure what you mean there. NVidia has regularly not talked much about the gaming line during their datacenter card reveals, and this is really no different. The compute stuff actually looks real impressive, honestly, especially at the price points they mentioned. You're right that datacenter cards are waaay more profitable, though.
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i hope they do more with the LP/drop in cards next go around. maybe they will because of the uptick in PC sales, of which i assume there must be a lot of office machines (though mainly portables) being sold i posted that last year too to no avail really
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eames posted:People expect a high end consumer product around August. Cyberpunk 2077 is scheduled for September, so it'd certainly make sense to have a new card on the market by then. There's also RDNA2 which was scheduled for this summer. I'm really crossing my fingers for a bundle. I just upgraded to a ryzen 3600 but held on to my 970 since I'm staying at 1080. If they bundle a 3070 with cyberpunk I will be set for a while I think.
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Software rendering is back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (wolf Howl) https://twitter.com/BrianKaris/status/1261099569426751488?s=19
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DrDork posted:Their best shot? Not sure what you mean there. NVidia has regularly not talked much about the gaming line during their datacenter card reveals, and this is really no different. The compute stuff actually looks real impressive, honestly, especially at the price points they mentioned. I've played both sides of the aisle in past lives. You're right, but in the past, they'd at least give some lip service to gaming. This was datacenter, datacenter, datacenter. And you could at least get a Volta AIC if you *really* wanted to. I'd be suprised if this makes it to x16 PCIe format in anything that isn't gobbled up by integrators before it hits the street. What I was saying is that, I think under greater pressure, NVIDIA could've done way better than this but better to preserve and taper on their performance ramp in a controlled manner so idiot stock analysts keep number going up.
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Crunchy Black posted:What I was saying is that, I think under greater pressure, NVIDIA could've done way better than this but better to preserve and taper on their performance ramp in a controlled manner so idiot stock analysts keep number going up. Yeah, it's true that I don't think NVidia gives a rat's rear end what AMD is doing right now, and are (rightfully) entirely confident that they don't need to give anything away about gaming cards because it really doesn't matter--everyone is going to buy the 30xx series regardless.
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They even well actuallyd. Magnificent.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I want a GT 1030 successor The DDR4 or the GDDR5 version?
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DrDork posted:The DDR4 or the GDDR5 version? 
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I want a GT 1030 successor 
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Ideally with passive cooling.
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repiv posted:lol at all the hype about the ssds allowing seamless streaming and the first demo they show has an obvious character-slowly-shuffles-through-tight-gap hidden loading transition This comment enraged the devs, because it's not even true Edit: f;b.. hard
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FuturePastNow posted:Ideally with passive cooling. Giving me flashbacks to the 5200FX I had in high school. Easily the worst card I’ve ever had. Wait, no, it was replacing a Vanta, THAT was the worst card I ever had.
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i thought a geforce 4 mx or whatever was going to be One Better than the geforce 3 i had read so much about idk that its the worst card ive ever had but it might be the most disappointing
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someone a while back told me some cooler upgrade options for this card but I forget them (thank you and sorry!) https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/GV-N208TTURBO-11GC-rev-10#kf I'm getting tired of this blower since I picked up a super cheap VR headset and it's so loud. Can anyone recommend some good solutions now that I have tons of time on my hands in quarantine?
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Statutory Ape posted:i hope they do more with the LP/drop in cards next go around. maybe they will because of the uptick in PC sales, of which i assume there must be a lot of office machines (though mainly portables) being sold doesnt the 1650 work without additional power? but yeah a single slow replacement for the GT 1030 with updated NVENC please 
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charity rereg posted:doesnt the 1650 work without additional power? but yeah a single slow replacement for the GT 1030 with updated NVENC please The 1650 (but not the 1650 Super) does not need external power connectors, correct.
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charity rereg posted:doesnt the 1650 work without additional power? but yeah a single slow replacement for the GT 1030 with updated NVENC please it does but theres not much in the way of low profile cards. last gen there were a few companies making the ones like i posted here a couple pages back.  thats a 1050ti crammed in a refurbed dell i got for $89 then shoved spare parts into plays the lastest call of duty just fine 
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TFW you live in a favela but want to play CoD good
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Taima posted:TFW you live in a favela but want to play CoD good actually i just wanted to make a computer that ran it for cheaper than an xbox to prove a point to myself & some friends i feel bad for the 1.5 million people in the favelas in rio right now though because theyre probably all going to die.
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We're all going to die, friend.
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Statutory Ape posted:it does but theres not much in the way of low profile cards. last gen there were a few companies making the ones like i posted here a couple pages back. i just picked up a 5040 w/ i5-6600 & 8GB of RAM for $100 on Facebook, currently have a GT 1030 in there now, so i feel this. Want it to transcode though. You can get the 1650s now but ~180 seems steep.
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charity rereg posted:i just picked up a 5040 w/ i5-6600 & 8GB of RAM for $100 on Facebook, currently have a GT 1030 in there now, so i feel this. Want it to transcode though. You can get the 1650s now but ~180 seems steep. thats a sick find tbh. and thats my problem with the current lowpro lineup, except for the EVO i tossed in that thing, $180 would be probably double the investment in that system and just isnt worth it imho. also that thing is a haswell i5 so im pretty sure its just about seen its final game engine, rip part of me wants to toss an i7 in there for fun / something to do but its literally just not worth any fuckery anymore. ive already tried to give it away locally a couple times but everybody i know is either too nerdy or not nerdy enough
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Statutory Ape posted:i thought a geforce 4 mx or whatever was going to be One Better than the geforce 3 i had read so much about For me it's easily the Geforce FX series. They came out and took full advantage of the Half Life 2 and Counterstrike Source hype, but they didn't even render DX9 properly. So the most popular PC game in literally years ran and looked like rear end. Nvidia has done a lot of lovely, misleading things over the years. Fake DX9, and 3.5GB of memory on their 970s will always stick in my craw.
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charity rereg posted:someone a while back told me some cooler upgrade options for this card but I forget them (thank you and sorry!) Arctic Accelero, Raijintek Morpheus or Kraken G12 + an AIO are the most common options.
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HalloKitty posted:This comment enraged the devs, because it's not even true I feel like one can't really fault people for making that assumption too much tho, it's really strange choice to show off texture detail with what used to be a hidden loading screen.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:For me it's easily the Geforce FX series. They came out and took full advantage of the Half Life 2 and Counterstrike Source hype, but they didn't even render DX9 properly. So the most popular PC game in literally years ran and looked like rear end. Wait, what did the FX series do with Half Life 2? Wasn’t Nvidia on the 6 series by then? I got my FX5200 when KOTOR came out, so that was a year before HL2.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Wait, what did the FX series do with Half Life 2? Wasn’t Nvidia on the 6 series by then? I got my FX5200 when KOTOR came out, so that was a year before HL2. If memory serves that was a period of time where Nvidia hardware was way behind ATI in performance. I got an ATI 9600 Pro AIW in that time period and it was ridiculously overpowered compared to the then-current Nvidia cards. The FX 5200 ended in lots of OEM computers and was pretty gutless, as I recall. I don't remember the specific issues the other person mentioned, but I was team red at that point in time.
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Statutory Ape posted:i thought a geforce 4 mx or whatever was going to be One Better than the geforce 3 i had read so much about The geforce 4 mx was just a rebranded geforce 2 mx, iirc. I remember vividly back in the day thinking it was poo poo and making sure my friends didn't buy one. Then the FX series came, and I had to do the same there. Geforce 4 MX and FX 5200 were both utter abominations and basically shouldn't have existed Incessant Excess posted:I feel like one can't really fault people for making that assumption too much tho, it's really strange choice to show off texture detail with what used to be a hidden loading screen. It's probably just because they were copying set pieces from actual games, and didn't stop to think that people might assume it was a hidden loading area vv 7800 GTX, now we're talking.. I have a friend who had 7800 GTX SLI and a goddamn VapoChill case to cool his Athlon at that time. I do feel like the 256MB version was a bit short-lived, though, they should have all shipped with 512MB if you ask me. NVIDIA has far too often been a bit cheap when it comes to the amount of VRAM on a card HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 21:14 on May 15, 2020 |
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CaptainSarcastic posted:If memory serves that was a period of time where Nvidia hardware was way behind ATI in performance. I got an ATI 9600 Pro AIW in that time period and it was ridiculously overpowered compared to the then-current Nvidia cards. For sure, I switched to the Radeon 9800 Pro when HL2 came out from my dogshit FX5200 but I was just curious about the HL2 hype aspect. It wouldn’t shock me if they used it to push overstock from that dogshit card, I remember it being insanely over marketed when it came out. Then the year after the 7800 GTX came out and hooo boy, NVidia was cooking with gas on that one. I had a pair in my stupid expensive high-end computer and it was ridiculous in 2005.
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