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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Jewel Repetition posted:

I still find it hard to laugh at somebody's wife dying no matter how much it was his and her fault

I don't.

Don't coddle actively malignant people.

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Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Jewel Repetition posted:

I still find it hard to laugh at somebody's wife dying no matter how much it was his and her fault

That's decorum talk, buddy. Everyone's somebody's child, too. You gonna laugh at somebody's kid dying?

Yes. Yes you are, because they're a horrible malicious shitheel of a person, who are reaping what they've maliciously sown.

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Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Jewel Repetition posted:

I still find it hard to laugh at somebody's wife dying no matter how much it was his and her fault

wait what? you still have a problem with laughing at "somebody's wife dying" even if it's "her fault"?

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Cup Runneth Over posted:

That's absolutely not the case. What would actually happen on Libertopia Island is that one person, probably the greediest and savviest, would quickly monopolize the most essential resources, and use them to hire the biggest, meanest, dumbest sumbitches on the island as enforcers. Then he would use monopolize the use of force and use it to expand his control over the island's resources, set up a caste system with some petite-bourgeoisie to stem dissent, and force the rest of the island's population to work as serfs for scraps, if not outright slaves, under threat of violence. The diehard libertarians who refuse to ~engage in contract~ that clearly exploits them would all be shot or stabbed to death, if not simply starved, within the first month.

This is of course assuming that for whatever reason they can't leave the island (and steal all the money) and have to come up with their own system of currency, a sort of "civilization reboot" if you will.

Don't forget the rampant sexual assault, because for some reason libertarians have a strong correlation with rape.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

There's "without the chains of society my true genius will solve all problems" libertarians and "both parties are the same, legalize weed and leave the gays alone" libertarians. Or at least there was when I was a teenager, that's probably changed now.

SpaceSDoorGunner posted:

This is why all aid programs should be universal, the centrist “I don’t want millionaires who don’t need it to also get aid” candidate line is basically saying “I want poors to jump through Byzantine hoops for lovely service.”

:eng101: Byzantium had free health care for the poor, provided by state-built public hospitals.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

The death of a Branch Covidian actually rules.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"
I have no sympathy for people who actively ignore basic science and common sense regarding the spread of disease just because it's inconvenient. They put others in danger because something as simple as wearing a mask and foregoing a haircut is too much of a burden for their fragile little snowflake beings. Basically, these people were no angels, and deserve the poo poo they eat. They have my thots and prayers, though.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"
It's not even loving karma. It's basic cause and effect for exposing yourself to a highly contagious disease.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
you should never forget that while these assholes paid the price for their actions, so did many other people who came into contact with them through no fault of their own. it is good and funny that his bitch wife died.

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taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

well no its bad and funny

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I don't.

Don't coddle actively malignant people.

"Coddle" is a weird term for this. They've already suffered hugely so how I respond to it isn't gonna shield them from the consequences of what they did

Mr Interweb posted:

wait what? you still have a problem with laughing at "somebody's wife dying" even if it's "her fault"?

Yeah. It just feels wrong. She was an actively harmful dumbass about Corona who's getting poetic justice, but she's also an irreplaceable child of God who'll leave behind holes in the lives of those who loved her

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Either way I agree that the "God forgives me" part is psychotic

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Jewel Repetition posted:

Yeah. It just feels wrong. She was an actively harmful dumbass about Corona who's getting poetic justice, but she's also an irreplaceable child of God who'll leave behind holes in the lives of those who loved her

oh, I see the problem. carry on, then

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

Jewel Repetition posted:

Yeah. It just feels wrong. She was an actively harmful dumbass about Corona who's getting poetic justice, but she's also an irreplaceable child of God who'll leave behind holes in the lives of those who loved her

I'm fine with those holes being an open, festering wound as a good lesson for putting at risk other families they came into contact with and causing the same thing you are lamenting of causing disruption inside families.

but it's fine because we don't know if it happened or not?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

LonsomeSon posted:

The death of a Branch Covidian actually rules.

LonsomeSon posted:

The death of a Branch Covidian actually rules.

LonsomeSon posted:

The death of a Branch Covidian actually rules.

:vince:

Syncopation
Feb 21, 2020
this is libertarianism unleashed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZB8lmDjxnM

edit: haha holy poo poo i forgot he blows a loving .3. its incredible he was standing up

Syncopation has issued a correction as of 02:37 on May 17, 2020

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
allowing assholes to live lead us to today. if trump was born 50 years earlier the first contractor he didn't pay, or the first business partner he screwed and declared bankruptcy on, would have been his last
poo poo. 30 years earlier and one of those mob guys he was so chummy with wouldn't have put up with his poo poo

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

LonsomeSon posted:

The death of a Branch Covidian actually rules.

lmao goddamn

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

In Alaska, we have this great tradition of giving people helpful wilderness survival advice and when they arrogantly ignore it and die horrific deaths we mock them like the fools they are. The difference between Covid 19 and bear maulings, is that these morons aren't just getting themselves killed, they're also killing a lot of other people, many of whom actually listened to what you had to say, all while claiming that it's ok and a worthy sacrifice for the sake of eating at Applebees.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I hope it’s painful for the chuds and that they are afraid when it happens. They’re all mass murderers.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 229 days!

Jewel Repetition posted:

Either way I agree that the "God forgives me" part is psychotic

People have forgotten that you're supposed to give up the fruits of your sin and make a genuine attempt to change. So if you actually mean it, you can repent on your deathbed; but you can't like, fool or flatter an omnipotent, omniscient being with some magic words and have everything be okay.

If you're a follower of Vishnu, on the other hand, just saying his name by accident as you die is enough to be saved. Granted, the story that goes with it is that of a fuckup who gave up a middle/upper-class life to live with a prostitute he fell in love with and gamble away his life. So he was letting his family down, but not actively hurting others. In the story, he names his son Narayana (a name of Vishnu) and calls out for him as he dies. So it's also implicitly the fact that he still cared for his children that saves him.

Hodgepodge has issued a correction as of 06:56 on May 17, 2020

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Mr.Pibbleton posted:

In Alaska, we have this great tradition of giving people helpful wilderness survival advice and when they arrogantly ignore it and die horrific deaths we mock them like the fools they are.
An excellent tradition.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

InsertPotPun posted:

allowing assholes to live lead us to today. if trump was born 50 years earlier the first contractor he didn't pay, or the first business partner he screwed and declared bankruptcy on, would have been his last
poo poo. 30 years earlier and one of those mob guys he was so chummy with wouldn't have put up with his poo poo

Dunno about this hypothesis that the world would be more just if we allowed businessmen and mobsters to kill people more easily

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Mr.Pibbleton posted:

In Alaska, we have this great tradition of giving people helpful wilderness survival advice and when they arrogantly ignore it and die horrific deaths we mock them like the fools they are.

Isn't this the entire premise of the novel Into the Wild?

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Mr.Pibbleton posted:

In Alaska, we have this great tradition of giving people helpful wilderness survival advice and when they arrogantly ignore it and die horrific deaths we mock them like the fools they are.

Ahh Chris McCandless, your stupidity will inspire countless college dropouts to wander into the woods to find vague platitudes for the rest of time.

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



Laughing at people who died from actions that put themselves and others in danger is acceptable, because other people doing the same thing see the public reaction and think "wow, I don't want people to laugh at me if I die from this" and go through some degree of self-reflection.

Your social image and how people think of you is important on a primal level. I have no doubt a contributing factor to the continued schadenfreude is that the chuds know they will be dignified in death and mourned, even by a lot of people who called them out, because of decorum.

Take away the promise of a dignified death/remembrance and some people might think twice about recklessly endangering themselves and others just to eat at applebees without a mask or whatever.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


I'm not too sure that the chuds are that comforted by a dignified death when they're choking on their own fluid-filled lungs, but I'll take it

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



Cup Runneth Over posted:

I'm not too sure that the chuds are that comforted by a dignified death when they're choking on their own fluid-filled lungs, but I'll take it

Chuds often don't understand what those of us who have witnessed actual death know, that no death is dignified. They also don't think about the pain and agony of going to that death. If they do, they minimize it in their heads to something bearable and acceptable.

Take my QAnon mother and stepdad. They believe that God only allows someone to experience pain to a level that they can bear.

They can't imagine pain or suffering so extreme that you would rather kill yourself than let it continue, and delude themselves into thinking that they can endure any kind of death with dignity.

My main point though is that they find solace in the fact that they will be remembered and mourned respectfully after they die. Make it undeniable that this will not be the case, and maybe they will think twice and bend their deluded reality to accept preventative measures against the virus. This would save their lives and the lives of other vulnerable people they potentially infect from recklessly accepting themselves as a vector for a global pandemic.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Jewel Repetition posted:

Dunno about this hypothesis that the world would be more just if we allowed businessmen and mobsters to kill people more easily

Businessmen can and do kill millions every year with impunity :confused:

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted

Cup Runneth Over posted:

That's absolutely not the case. What would actually happen on Libertopia Island is that one person, probably the greediest and savviest, would quickly monopolize the most essential resources, and use them to hire the biggest, meanest, dumbest sumbitches on the island as enforcers. Then he would use monopolize the use of force and use it to expand his control over the island's resources, set up a caste system with some petite-bourgeoisie to stem dissent, and force the rest of the island's population to work as serfs for scraps, if not outright slaves, under threat of violence. The diehard libertarians who refuse to ~engage in contract~ that clearly exploits them would all be shot or stabbed to death, if not simply starved, within the first month.

This is of course assuming that for whatever reason they can't leave the island (and steal all the money) and have to come up with their own system of currency, a sort of "civilization reboot" if you will.


I can back this, the one diehard libertarian I know hit basically all three family categories (mom's basement, spouse with good job, family wealth).

lol, this was Bioshock

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 229 days!

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Businessmen can and do kill millions every year with impunity :confused:

so do mobsters. there isn't really much difference between mobsters and businessmen and the two groups overlap significantly and are happy to work together.

not really up for making it easier for either group though

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/1261725309507907585

like if you asked a chud what he thought that wall st wants people to go back to work.. they'd still find someway to make it so that wall street is looking out for the little guy or something...


a little off-topic but somewhat related:

https://twitter.com/debdrens/status/1261798123418128384

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

I don't have to laugh, but I don't have to mourn either

to reap what they've sewn is to let them be completely forgotten, as with all the warnings and dangers they refused to heed

someone who caught it despite it all and died? that's a person with a story. a willfully defiant monster who flaunted, caught it, and then passed? well now, that's a statistic

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
chuds are fascists who root for mass murder (just ask them about foreign policy or criminal justice some time, they'll be happy to tell you) so im not going to waste time wringing my hands over it when they have a karmic death

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
I yearn for Chad death

Chuds for the Chud God

BIG HORNY COW
Apr 11, 2003

BigDave posted:

Ahh Chris McCandless, your stupidity will inspire countless college dropouts to wander into the woods to find vague platitudes for the rest of time.

The Bus claimed yet another victim and also someone's toes from frostbite in the past few months.

MODS CURE JOKES
Nov 11, 2009

OFFICIAL SAS 90s REMEMBERER

BigDave posted:

Ahh Chris McCandless, your stupidity will inspire countless college dropouts to wander into the woods to find vague platitudes for the rest of time.

i had to go and read about this poor idiot and his loving journals are chilling, you can literally see the neurotoxicity present in his writing

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Funion posted:


Take my QAnon mother and stepdad. They believe that God only allows someone to experience pain to a level that they can bear.


lol what? which denomination of christianity believes in something like THAT?

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gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
american christianity is mostly 'hey this thing sounds good to me, so it must be what jesus said'.

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