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This would have worked a lot better if Isabella had been around for most of the manga instead of, like, the first couple of volumes and the last couple of chapters.
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# ? May 17, 2020 19:14 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:02 |
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Ratri dying worked for me but this didn't. Guess it's really tough for writers to have these people who have done so much wrong live.
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# ? May 17, 2020 19:23 |
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I think Ratri worked because he, let's face it, had no chance at a happy end. He was too much of a poo poo. Isabelle we, the readers, knew more about because she was the arc villain for longer and way more personable, espeically since she was in the same situation as the kids. She had her quasi-redemption and that should have been fine; she & the Mothers would have their own stuff to work through off screen. So killing her off is kind of weak, especially after just doing it with Ratri (and...NOT doing it Lewis, somehow the only arc villain to come out of this i guess!) and also Blockhouse posted:This would have worked a lot better if Isabella had been around for most of the manga instead of, like, the first couple of volumes and the last couple of chapters. She wasn't around as much after the first part of the comic, like pointed out here. If she had been Grandma for much longer and had more interplay between her, ratri, her plans and the kids in the background it might've hit better.
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# ? May 17, 2020 20:02 |
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Ratri was also offed in a believable scenario by a significant character (himself). It was a fitting payoff for his character to choose to die on top than surrender even an iota of status for a better world. Isabelle's character already paid off a few chapters ago and now here comes this no-name demon to gently caress up everything. I think they maybe underestimated how many people in the audience wouldn't have been willing to forgive Isabelle's crimes, and decided death was the only way to redeem her.
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# ? May 17, 2020 21:49 |
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TheHan posted:Ratri was also offed in a believable scenario by a significant character (himself). It was a fitting payoff for his character to choose to die on top than surrender even an iota of status for a better world. Isabelle's character already paid off a few chapters ago and now here comes this no-name demon to gently caress up everything. I think they maybe underestimated how many people in the audience wouldn't have been willing to forgive Isabelle's crimes, and decided death was the only way to redeem her. Yeah, if they really wanted to kill Isabelle off this was NOT the way to do it.
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# ? May 17, 2020 23:21 |
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Between this and yaiba I really have to stop letting myself be convinced to pick up WSJ series (I read that paradox pilot chapter)
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# ? May 19, 2020 00:24 |
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I don't think a soft ending is a reason to call the whole series bad, it's still been a really good ride overall imo
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# ? May 19, 2020 00:25 |
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kidcoelacanth posted:I don't think a soft ending is a reason to call the whole series bad, it's still been a really good ride overall imo Yeah, this is just one misstep in a series that I've otherwise really enjoyed. It's not going to ruin the whole thing for me, although it's still definitely a plot point I dislike and feel is unnecessary.
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# ? May 19, 2020 00:28 |
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Oh for sure. It's definitely not sticking the landing, but most of what had come before was good.
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# ? May 19, 2020 10:56 |
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This is another series that could've done with going a bit longer to flesh things out. The ending here pretty much wraps everything up in a nice bow to the point it feels like killing Isabella was "Oh poo poo, we didn't really have a lot of consequences for the main crew of good guys did we".
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# ? May 19, 2020 13:02 |
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Viz MangaPlus The Promise turns out to be sending our poor kids to America. A truly cruel fate.
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# ? May 24, 2020 17:52 |
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"There has to be a catch!" The catch is you're a bunch of penniless orphans tossed into New York. Good loving luck.
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# ? May 24, 2020 18:26 |
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The way that shot of The Statue of Liberty is framed my immediate thought was a Planet of the Apes style twist and demons have taken over there too.
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# ? May 24, 2020 18:36 |
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Sending them to New York is truly the cruelest thing he could've done.
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# ? May 24, 2020 18:57 |
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I'm more concerned that it even sent the brain-dead farm kids along with them. That isn't gonna end well.
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# ? May 24, 2020 19:02 |
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Oh, a bunch of undocumented children that got sent to 2020 Trump's America. Welcome to living in cages again.
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# ? May 24, 2020 19:41 |
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Author: social commentary not direct enough, time to hammer it home one more time. I genuinely hope the series goes there in the next arc and directly compares what the cast has been through so far to real life events by putting them in the middle of them. It's high risk, but high reward.
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# ? May 24, 2020 20:08 |
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Pretty sure it's ending next chapter actually.
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# ? May 24, 2020 20:27 |
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E. Revenant posted:Oh, a bunch of undocumented children that got sent to 2020 Trump's America. Welcome to living in cages again. Goddamn, the demon God really is the ultimate troll. They would have been better off staying in the other world.
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# ? May 24, 2020 22:50 |
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"the final shot of the series will probably be them walking into the light of the humanworld" I say with certainty, putting on my clown wig & nose
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# ? May 24, 2020 23:00 |
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This is about to turn into absolute poo poo Like This is not To Your Eternity. This is not going to be pulled off. This is going to be a giant garbage fire.
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# ? May 25, 2020 15:31 |
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Its in the same boat as Kimetsu, Its the authors first Jump manga. sticking a satisfying landing for a tense story such as this one is hard, and editorial pressure and inexperience can be hard to overcome, and its not a issue where the author is lacking in talent, either. Theres not been as much behind the scenes as much other manga since the Kaiu Shirai, the author, likes their privacy. Hell they pulled a Yoko Taro and did their interview in a bike helmet with stick on eyes
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# ? May 25, 2020 16:24 |
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That's the artist, Demizu Posuka.
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# ? May 25, 2020 18:08 |
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Egg on my face lol Couldnt find a pic of the author, and wikipedia says they havent disclosed their gender or age. Kaiu did do the interview, and apparently the wonky eyed doll down there is their standin Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 23:19 on May 25, 2020 |
# ? May 25, 2020 23:12 |
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I really enjoyed the first few arcs of this series but I wish I had just stopped before it got to what it is now. There’s bad endings and then there’s..whatever this is
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# ? May 27, 2020 03:45 |
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E. Revenant posted:Oh, a bunch of undocumented children that got sent to 2020 Trump's America. Welcome to living in cages again. Fortunately, The Promised Neverland is set in 2045, IIRC. Hopefully the US government 20 years in the future will be saner.
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# ? May 29, 2020 22:45 |
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Silver2195 posted:Fortunately, The Promised Neverland is set in 2045, IIRC. Hopefully the US government 20 years in the future will be saner. bwahahahahahaha
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# ? May 29, 2020 23:01 |
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Silver2195 posted:Fortunately, The Promised Neverland is set in 2045, IIRC. Hopefully the US government 20 years in the future will be saner. they’d be chopped up for stew meat
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# ? May 29, 2020 23:03 |
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Silver2195 posted:Fortunately, The Promised Neverland is set in 2045, IIRC. Hopefully the US government 20 years in the future will be saner. Completely sincerely the best post in this thread, thank you for this.
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# ? May 29, 2020 23:11 |
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regrettably i must now bring out The Clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_nPp64OrBc
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# ? May 31, 2020 17:43 |
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Genuinely not sure what they can do with the premise of looking for Emma in a utopian future Earth. Feels weird to move to a setting where the characters will presumedly face no challenges when so much of the series was about them taking on the world.
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# ? May 31, 2020 18:00 |
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My suspicion is that Emma was sent back ten years earlier, during the wars, to help prepare the world for her family. She'll show up as an adult dressed like Mama.
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# ? May 31, 2020 19:18 |
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This loving sucks.
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# ? May 31, 2020 20:24 |
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I kind of liked this chapter
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# ? May 31, 2020 21:09 |
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Oh. Um. It didn't end? I'm honestly surprised. The latest chapters seemed to be wrapping up things, however clumsily, so I would've thought this chapter would have been the final one. Like, a "Congrats! You did it!" chapter to cap everything off.
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# ? May 31, 2020 21:23 |
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Dont jinx the future writers goddamn one world nation is great and all but a ten year world war oof definitely not
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# ? May 31, 2020 21:37 |
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Rody One Half posted:This loving sucks. Yeah, they're not sticking the landing. I don't really hold it against the writer though (this is their first project and up until now they nailed it), and I'm actually really looking forward to seeing what they do after this, but this ending is not doing it for me.
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# ? Jun 1, 2020 01:36 |
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Basically everything that's happened since they killed the demon queen has been varying degrees of "I like the idea behind this but the pacing is a little/a lot hosed", IMO - worsening as it goes. Not disastrous, IMO, but unfortunately clumsy.
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# ? Jun 1, 2020 06:53 |
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Nothing has been as engaging to me as the first arc when they were uncovering the initial mystery and trying to escape. There have been other great arcs since, but it’s always been a bummer that it peaked so early and the weak conclusion doesn’t help.
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# ? Jun 1, 2020 07:29 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:02 |
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The conclusion being the nations of the world co-operating to do whats best for all just like the like the separate worlds of child and demon decide to co-operate to do whats best for all just like the children co-operated to accomplish things they couldn't alone to do whats best for all is an incredibly strong thematic binding and this ending is elevating the comic for me after having written it off around the middle or so. It's a pretty relevant ending and especially right now even if its the most escapist fantasy I wish to escape to possible.
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