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Came back after a break and finally beat a18 with defect and ironclad, but still brick walling with silent on the same ascension, really struggling with her act 1 more than the others. Anyway game is still good. E: nvm, beat it, got deadbranch on like floor 10 and went all in on shiv madness Tiger Millionaire fucked around with this message at 16:08 on May 18, 2020 |
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Has anybody gotten clash to work at high ascension? Every time I think about adding it to the deck, I an reminded that the deck starts with an unremovable curse that makes it nearly impossible to play.
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# ? May 18, 2020 18:17 |
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Has anybody gotten clash to work at high ascension? Every time I think about adding it to the deck, I an reminded that the deck starts with an unremovable curse that makes it nearly impossible to play. There are just so many cards that mess with Clash. Aside from curses and anything (enemies or cards) that add status cards, even normal card draw becomes problematic. Shrug It Off and Battle Trance in particular don't play well with it. Sure, a 0-cost, high-damage attack is great on the surface, but in most situations where I've had Clash (usually due to a transformation; I basically never draft it), it just becomes an extra curse on most draws. WhiteHowler fucked around with this message at 19:04 on May 18, 2020 |
# ? May 18, 2020 18:59 |
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It's actually not bad in A1 hallways where you can usually just play all skills+clash. The free curse makes it alot worse but it's manageable. If two of the bosses didn't add statuses to your deck it would probably be a decent a1, remove a2 card, but right now it's just a worse anger.
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# ? May 18, 2020 19:13 |
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I've been tempted by Clash on Corruption decks but even then statuses/curses gently caress you up. Doesn't really work with Dead Branch either (powers eventually clog you up), and who wants to give up Branch for Clash?
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# ? May 18, 2020 19:14 |
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I think in order to pick Clash on A10+ I need a Blue Candle and to still need more basic damage, it was already marginal below A10.
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# ? May 18, 2020 19:25 |
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Has anybody gotten clash to work at high ascension? Every time I think about adding it to the deck, I an reminded that the deck starts with an unremovable curse that makes it nearly impossible to play. i'm topping 800 hours and most of it is me failing at a20 and I don't think I've successfully used Clash once, or even looked at it as a card that actually appears, my eyes just kinda go somewhere else instead of taking the worst curse in the game
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# ? May 18, 2020 19:45 |
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Zvahl posted:i'm topping 800 hours and most of it is me failing at a20 and I don't think I've successfully used Clash once, or even looked at it as a card that actually appears, my eyes just kinda go somewhere else instead of taking the worst curse in the game At least Hello World occasionally draws a useful card.
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# ? May 18, 2020 19:48 |
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The big issue with Clash is you imagine a deck it can go in and it's a super offensive deck with lots of attacks and relics that help you stay alive And then you realize that the more your deck's gameplan is 'play all your attacks' the less you're able to spend energy on skills anyway and even though you're drawing 1 skill a turn (probably basic defend) instead of 2 - 2.5, you're not emptying your hand of skills anyway And then you never take Clash again
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# ? May 18, 2020 19:56 |
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Clash is real bad against sentries which is enough for me to never pick it up
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# ? May 18, 2020 20:09 |
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WhiteHowler posted:I think I've gotten even less benefit from Grand Finale, overall. Hello World is, I guess, at least a power? It's the worst power, sure, but you can usually, like, use it grand finale is a close second for sure but at least it's usually hanging out around two better cards
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# ? May 18, 2020 20:34 |
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Grand finale is such a joke compared to like, omega. Does significantly less in a worse way and is much harder to put into play.
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# ? May 18, 2020 21:23 |
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Mymla posted:Grand finale is such a joke compared to like, omega. Does significantly less in a worse way and is much harder to put into play. And Omega isnt even, like, very good. Imagine being a total joke compared to one of the three Watcher rares that makes you go "ehhhh maybe not"
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# ? May 18, 2020 21:35 |
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Grand Finale is fine if you have some combination of WLP, Acrobatics and Backflips which you already want. With filtering already in place opportunity cost is not that severe and easily defeating occasional hallway fight is very good the higher you go. And it's a legit autopick in a Runic Pyramid deck or with a couple of Calculated Gambles. Also it's unfair to compare anyone rares to Watchers. Like come on. Although I truly believe that Finale is better than Alpha.
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# ? May 18, 2020 21:45 |
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MJeff posted:And Omega isnt even, like, very good. Imagine being a total joke compared to one of the three Watcher rares that makes you go "ehhhh maybe not" alpha absolutely rules and i've won a lot of games with it but it mostly feels like it fills a very specific slot of act 1 boss drop if your act 1 has been garbage for offense i usually won't take it much past then or even if I've come across a tantrum and something else to use with it in act 1 but it can be your sole offense most of the way to the heart and win things easily
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# ? May 19, 2020 02:32 |
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Double Omni into beta/alpha owns
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# ? May 19, 2020 04:00 |
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Gyshall posted:Double Omni into beta/alpha owns Did this change? Last time I tried Omniscience -> Omniscience -> Beta I couldn't then pick Omega. Tried to report it as a bug, people asserted it was desired behaviour but I couldn't follow the consistency with say Echo Form Hologram recovering Hologram.
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# ? May 19, 2020 04:04 |
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rchandra posted:Did this change? Last time I tried Omniscience -> Omniscience -> Beta I couldn't then pick Omega. Tried to report it as a bug, people asserted it was desired behaviour but I couldn't follow the consistency with say Echo Form Hologram recovering Hologram. Nested Omnis trigger simultaneously - you pick both targets before either one resolves. This is different from Echo Form, which casts the spell again after the first resolution. If you could Echo Form Omniscience then you could Omni Beta followed by Omega.
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# ? May 19, 2020 10:13 |
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Yeah sorry - meant to say that creating more than one Omega owns.
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# ? May 19, 2020 13:15 |
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Omniscience -> omniscience -> beta -> omniscience -> omega is a valid line though - the cards get played in order so you have to pick both targets of the 2nd omniscience before they are actually played.
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# ? May 19, 2020 18:10 |
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If that's how that works, then can the second Omniscience in an Omni->Omni chain pick the same card twice?
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# ? May 19, 2020 22:34 |
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This is melting my brain
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# ? May 19, 2020 23:34 |
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trading your gold for a rare relic at the beginning and getting fossilized helix as watcher is loving bonkers
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# ? May 20, 2020 00:29 |
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Color Printer posted:trading your gold for a rare relic at the beginning and getting fossilized helix as watcher is loving bonkers Helix lets Watcher overextend so much, it's the loving best.
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# ? May 20, 2020 00:40 |
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Unfortunately I got loving wrecked by the ooze triplets in act 3
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# ? May 20, 2020 00:53 |
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Color Printer posted:If that's how that works, then can the second Omniscience in an Omni->Omni chain pick the same card twice? No; Omniscience removes the card before playing it for exactly this reason.
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# ? May 20, 2020 01:07 |
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Color Printer posted:Unfortunately I got loving wrecked by the ooze triplets in act 3 Yeah, those guys suck. Act 3 hallway fights are the one spot where Watcher seems to run into problems. Anyone else, well, if you muscle past the Act 2 boss you'll probably breeze through Act 3 hallways.
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# ? May 20, 2020 01:14 |
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Straight White Shark posted:Yeah, those guys suck. Act 3 hallway fights are the one spot where Watcher seems to run into problems. Anyone else, well, if you muscle past the Act 2 boss you'll probably breeze through Act 3 hallways. I think that's because Watcher has such an advantage early game that it is very easy to not build your deck efficiently in Act 3. Like, you may just power through Act 2 on nothing but raw single target damage, but then find yourself without any significant blocking in Act 3 and just kind of die.
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# ? May 20, 2020 01:52 |
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I find the general arc with Silent is you're hanging on by the skin of your loving teeth in act 1, then by act 3 you're just laughing from behind absurd amounts of block (with Wraith as a backup) while you whittle your enemies down.
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# ? May 20, 2020 01:58 |
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What are some good ways to juice my score for ranking higher on the daily climb? My highest so far is 44th.
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# ? May 20, 2020 02:43 |
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metachronos posted:What are some good ways to juice my score for ranking higher on the daily climb? My highest so far is 44th. Just hit as many elites as you can. Every elite you kill is 25 points and another 50 if you perfect it, so taking an extra elite in each act is a potential 225 points. That's bigger than any other bonus you can gain apart from Beyond Perfect.
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# ? May 20, 2020 11:52 |
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Jedit posted:Just hit as many elites as you can. Every elite you kill is 25 points and another 50 if you perfect it, so taking an extra elite in each act is a potential 225 points. That's bigger than any other bonus you can gain apart from Beyond Perfect. That's my usual goal. I didn't realize you got such huge points for getting a perfect. Thanks!
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# ? May 20, 2020 12:21 |
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metachronos posted:That's my usual goal. I didn't realize you got such huge points for getting a perfect. Thanks! I may be misremembering, it might only be 25 for a perfect elite. It's still significant though.
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# ? May 20, 2020 12:40 |
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aside from perfecting the elites and bosses, max hp is an easy gimme for points on ironclad but is usually not impossible on the other dudes highlander is generally workable too, but only really for points, it encourages a slim deck and is more rewarding than the other points option which is aiming for 50 card decks and lol
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# ? May 20, 2020 14:37 |
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I usually try to get Curses! for having 5 curses in the deck and the one for having no rares... Pauper? Some mods let you rack up collectors bonuses too for having 4 of the same card.
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# ? May 20, 2020 15:12 |
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kemikalkadet posted:I usually try to get Curses! for having 5 curses in the deck and the one for having no rares... Pauper? Some mods let you rack up collectors bonuses too for having 4 of the same card. pretty sure the 4 copy collection bonus is in the base game, you get a bonus for each different set, I recall getting it at least a few times and I haven't used any mods
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# ? May 20, 2020 15:39 |
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Zvahl posted:pretty sure the 4 copy collection bonus is in the base game, you get a bonus for each different set, I recall getting it at least a few times and I haven't used any mods Mods as in modifiers. There's 3 in every daily run.
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# ? May 20, 2020 15:47 |
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I have joined the less than 7% of players who've killed Heart with all "core" classes with an A5 kill by All For One Defect. Though it took me a while to get to this point I'm still amazed at how few players have these achievements.
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# ? May 20, 2020 16:28 |
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More people beat A10 than beat the heart with I/S/D. I think A10 is much harder than an A1 heart clear so it just shows me that a lot of people don't really care for the heart or just skip classes they're not into.
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# ? May 20, 2020 16:31 |
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No Wave posted:or just skip classes they're not into. This is me. I have I/D/W heart kills but gently caress playing Silent.
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