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Cake Smashing Boob posted:I'm late to this and a loving idiot to boot, but how come there aren't more legit separatist movements in the US? Considering the skewed senate, two party system, presidency and supreme court etc. None of that poo poo looks fixable to me. 3-pronged approach by the ruling class: the dominant american religion of materialist consumerism is extremely effective at helping local populations at risk of separatist tendencies channel their energies into self-destructive pursuits. providing abundant houses of worship is both profitable and counter-revolutionary a 50-year project reforming primary education, establishing think tanks and consolidating media ownership to stamp out class consciousness during the progression to late capitalism enormous investment in a host of police agencies to surveil and disrupt potential dual power organizations. misinformation, intimidation and infiltration are plenty effective, but the american secret police are no more above targeted killings than their counterparts in other oligarchies
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:Edit: California is home to the culture that is the oldest European culture in the united states. It was here first. It should be in charge. weren't the Spanish in Florida first?
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# ? May 23, 2020 19:05 |
mazzi Chart Czar posted:How many of those kids are REAL Californian's people who's parents or grandparents were born in the state. Cuz Even before California's inception people have been trying to break it up, make it seem like a world or just generally keep it out to the point where California was a major factor that started the Civil because the South wanted the state to become a slave state. We should move the US capital to Hawai'i, and then let the native Hawai'ians have their independence, thereby cutting off the head of the serpent.
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# ? May 23, 2020 19:07 |
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I actually fixed this problem a while ago by drawing up an entirely new map, USSR style: Too many states. Also we have to eliminate Silicon Valley and the halls of power on the eastern seaboard, completely erasing them from history.
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Atrocious Joe posted:weren't the Spanish in Florida first? Looking up the maps to make sure: https://www.sutori.com/item/1520-1550-rapid-spanish-expansion-on-mainland-00f2 It was the islands under Florida: Dominican republic, and Haitians Islands and then spread about from there. But yeah let's put Washington DC on the tip of Florida, on the ocean. That sounds fun too. What the gently caress was Magellan doing? Why the gently caress are we speaking English? It should be French. Yes I ignoring the fact the french were not living in the land they owned. Holy gently caress the Dutch owned land in South America?
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Atrocious Joe posted:weren't the Spanish in Florida first? the missions in texas & new mexico are a century older than any of the californian missions as well. santa fe is nearly 200 years older than the first spanish colony in california.
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taqueso posted:No true californian All Californians are fake. It is the manner in which they are fake that varies.
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:Looking up the maps to make sure: https://www.sutori.com/item/1520-1550-rapid-spanish-expansion-on-mainland-00f2 Trying to circumnavigate the world French Louisiana was barely inhabited by the French, outside of fur trading posts. Suriname! It gained independence in the 60’s
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:How many of those kids are REAL Californians. People who's parents or grandparents were born in the state. Cuz Even before California's inception people have been trying to break it up, make it seem like a world or just generally keep it out to the point where California was a major factor that started the Civil because the South wanted the state to become a slave state. I don't think anyone else cares what Californians think in that regard. You'll have a hard time selling that to anyone who isn't already on board with Californian independence. e: not independence I'm dumb. supremacy? Is that the word? plaintiff has issued a correction as of 20:58 on May 23, 2020 |
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Peanut President posted:also the yankees won the war so you can't blame the south for systemic racism in california/ny/mass/michigan sorry Yeah. It’s more like in the 1870s through the 1920s there was this strong intellectual movement that took Darwin’s ideas and began to think nations should be run on ideas about survival of the fittest and it took an especially powerful hold of the USA.
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# ? May 23, 2020 21:14 |
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just make sf the capital of poo poo like star trek
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Crowsbeak posted:Yeah. It’s more like in the 1870s through the 1920s there was this strong intellectual movement that took Darwin’s ideas and began to think nations should be run on ideas about survival of the fittest and it took an especially powerful hold of the USA. northern racism definitely predates the Civil War. a portion of the abolitionist movement even endorsed sending free Blacks to Africa after ending slavery, so the white nation of the US would be free of Black people. That's the origin of Liberia.
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# ? May 23, 2020 22:22 |
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they postponed the civil war a long time with a compromise to stop importing more black people
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# ? May 23, 2020 22:41 |
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Scrree posted:The chief characteristic of the settler-nation is it's parasitism. By definition it cannot stamd alone. Yeah, revolution is never going to spring from white America.
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# ? May 23, 2020 23:10 |
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someone should go back in time and gank hamilton before he could convince washington to not back the jacobins
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# ? May 23, 2020 23:23 |
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:someone should go back in time and gank hamilton before he could convince washington to not back the jacobins Someone already did. Chronologational displacement is only good plus or minus ten years at that distance though.
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Atrocious Joe posted:northern racism definitely predates the Civil War. a portion of the abolitionist movement even endorsed sending free Blacks to Africa after ending slavery, so the white nation of the US would be free of Black people. That's the origin of Liberia. I mean that was part of it. But arguably Jim Crow and the great racial reaction of that period cannot be explained without looking at a world wide phenomenon of racism that was embraced by various people misinterpreting Darwin’s writings. Also. Lol at thinking a “race” is what brings revolution. Revolution requires preety major support from the ingroup. Just ask China.
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the colonial division of Africa by European powers was the driver of scientific racism in Europe. Darwinism was used to justify 19th colonialism in the same way the Christian gospel and Greek philosophy was used to justify the earlier trans-Atlantic slave trade.
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Atrocious Joe posted:northern racism definitely predates the Civil War. a portion of the abolitionist movement even endorsed sending free Blacks to Africa after ending slavery, so the white nation of the US would be free of Black people. That's the origin of Liberia. I think sending people away from americans is a good thing.
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# ? May 24, 2020 03:56 |
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Third World Reagan posted:I think sending people away from americans is a good thing. better to have sent all the white southerners and kept the former slaves to run the states
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Not so much for the people who were already in liberia, who promptly found themselves under a segregated regime run by people who only had the same skin color and nothing else in common
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Third World Reagan posted:I think sending people away from americans is a good thing. I think we should send all white americans back to europe <:^)
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Peanut President posted:I think we should send all white americans back to europe <:^) Europe is crowded, send us to the sun please
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taqueso posted:Europe is crowded, send us to the sun please I'll be go to hell if we get destroyed and the fuckers that spawned us get a free pass
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrWflCJPM4w
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The current state of affairs in Minneapolis.quote:https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1265450164006912005 Caused by this. FYI: THE SECOND TWEET IS A VIDEO OF A DELIBERATE AND SLOW MURDER. quote:https://twitter.com/samswey/status/1265285511339552774 I don't know the full situation but it sounds like the Minneapolis mayor *and* police chief have lost control of the city's police force. This is not good for stability. "Americans will never riot" will be increasingly falsified over the months to come.
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Peanut President posted:I think we should send all white americans back to europe <:^) this is acceptable if only eastern europe
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from that same thread https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1265494302425112576
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SKULL.GIF posted:The current state of affairs in Minneapolis. this poo poo happens all the time, ferguson, PR, and standing rock come to mind. I really wish there were better ways to keep track of this other than these goddamn forums and the intellectual paper shredder that is twitter
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# ? May 27, 2020 05:08 |
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Centrist Committee posted:this poo poo happens all the time, ferguson, PR, and standing rock come to mind. I really wish there were better ways to keep track of this other than these goddamn forums and the intellectual paper shredder that is twitter It's a real shame but also kinda neat that these dumb dead forums are by far the best news aggregator and organization tool around.
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# ? May 27, 2020 05:17 |
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I struggle to think of an example in the US after WW2 where police were not responsible for the start of a riot, either at the scene or by having a violent act they commit reported. The Days of Rage anti-war actions in 1969? It sure was intended as a riot, but they didn't really get it going.
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Atrocious Joe posted:I struggle to think of an example in the US after WW2 where police were not responsible for the start of a riot, either at the scene or by having a violent act they commit reported. Disco Demolition Night? e: which was in 1979 and wasn't really a major riot on the scale of the ones we're talking about I think there have been a number of sports riots since then that weren't necessarily attributable to the police (2014 Giants World Series) but yeah pretty much solely cops and small scale sports riots as far as I can tell LGD has issued a correction as of 05:50 on May 27, 2020 |
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Thump! posted:It's a real shame but also kinda neat that these dumb dead forums are by far the best news aggregator and organization tool around. idk man, this seems to be the only thread talking about the MN poo poo. If there is another thread discussing it please point me towards it, but its either monarchists in the economy thread or people fighting about Bernie
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# ? May 27, 2020 07:42 |
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we used to have a acab thread
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Real hurthling! posted:we used to have a acab thread Yeah, what the gently caress happened to the cop thread?
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mcclay posted:Yeah, what the gently caress happened to the cop thread? cops ruined it
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mcclay posted:idk man, this seems to be the only thread talking about the MN poo poo. If there is another thread discussing it please point me towards it, but its either monarchists in the economy thread or people fighting about Bernie yeah- USPOL in D&D is discussing it the silence in cspam is p weird e: there's even a gbs thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3924960 Peanut Butler has issued a correction as of 11:40 on May 27, 2020 |
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Third World Reagan posted:this is acceptable nope we send them back to whichever ancestry they claim
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Atrocious Joe posted:I struggle to think of an example in the US after WW2 where police were not responsible for the start of a riot, either at the scene or by having a violent act they commit reported. Stonewall, Tompkins Square, I dunno if the one Rudy led when he was just a racist, corrupt ghoul DA where Jimmy Breslin got the poo poo kicked out of him by cops screaming at him about where's his N****er mayor gonna save him now has a name as such. But yea, dead on as far as my knowledge of history goes. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/11/16/more-on-the-time-rudy-giuliani-helped-incite-a-riot-of-racist-cops/ Oh wait, my mistake it was a 'rally' https://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/17/nyregion/officers-rally-and-dinkins-is-their-target.html
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Zeno-25 posted:If you knew any Texans you'd know they drink Dr Pepper, which to their credit is the superior soda for the longest time as a kid I used to really like Dr. Pepper and drank it all the time whenever I had soda (which was not that often). Then one day I just suddenly had a mindblowing epiphany that it tasted like garbage, its ads were misogynistic, and I actually hated it, and I've never touched it since. I'm a root beer man now
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