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The Cosby Mysteries posted:If that's the case Boris needs to have a long think about if he's worth it. The ragsheets will turn on him and then what? It's political suicide to not sack him. He's hosed. It's political suicide for Boris to sack Cummings as well. Boris is above all things lazy; he has never in his life done anything he didn't want to do, even for large sums of money he would put in the minimal effort. He is absolutely dependent on having someone to provide a script, and that person cannot be a Tory because they'd knife him in a heartbeat. The only question is whether Boris asks Cummings for the answers or if Cummings just hands out the orders.
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May 25, 2020 00:16
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OwlFancier posted:Other than it's weird for a rational genius turbonerd to own a nightclub what's the significance? Ask anyone who went to Durham at the right sort of time about Klute and watch their face fold directly inward like they ate three lemons
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May 25, 2020 00:23
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Jedit posted:It's political suicide for Boris to sack Cummings as well. Boris is above all things lazy; he has never in his life done anything he didn't want to do, even for large sums of money he would put in the minimal effort. He is absolutely dependent on having someone to provide a script, and that person cannot be a Tory because they'd knife him in a heartbeat. The only question is whether Boris asks Cummings for the answers or if Cummings just hands out the orders.  It'll be a few interesting days! 
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May 25, 2020 00:39
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May 25, 2020 00:45
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Mr Phillby posted:Wasn't Svengali that animated movie with Robin Williams as a rapping Bat? No that’s ferngully. Svengali are the people who certify gaming world records
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Blasmeister posted:No that’s ferngully. Svengali are the people who certify gaming world records No, that's Twin Galaxies. Svengali is a stick of frozen juice that you lick in the summer
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May 25, 2020 01:19
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Non Cummings chat: Does the app log you out of its own accord sometimes? I haven't had to log in for over a year but today I had to and I couldn't find my password so had to catch up 12 pages on the website on my phone's browser. Rather trying. I just remembered where I saved it on my phone so I can use the app now. Cummings chat: Well what about that then, eh! Haven't been on FB for 3 days to see what my Tory acquaintances are saying. Plenty of Tory arslikhan going on on twitter though. I did see 2 mins of Spaffer's defence though. Pathetic. .
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Kojiro posted:Notorious shitpit. I sent the companies house screenshot to the one person from Durham I still speak to and I could hear the facial expression change over the internet
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May 25, 2020 01:25
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Venomous posted:No, that's Twin Galaxies. Svengali is a stick of frozen juice that you lick in the summer No, that's ice lollies. Svengali is an electically powered passenger vehicle that runs through cities on rails.
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May 25, 2020 01:29
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Apraxin posted:A Corbyn comparison isn't really apt, but CumDom's the same in that he hates a lot of the rules of the standard Westminster access game. He's openly contemptuous of most people who don't meet his standard of intellectualism (the good muscular conservative intellectualism, not the bad soft liberal kind), he's petty and holds grudges, and makes it clear he sees even the journos he leaks to as useful idiot pawns rather than trusted collaborators. still amazed at how much Labour hated Corbyn, who to my uninformed eyes seemed like an extremely pleasant guy. And weird that it happened at the same time the Dems in the States did such a rejection of Bernie Sanders, who is at least partly responsible for it by making some politically inadvisable moves. Same thing with Corbyn?
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Shageletic posted:still amazed at how much Labour hated Corbyn, who to my uninformed eyes seemed like an extremely pleasant guy. And weird that it happened at the same time the Dems in the States did such a rejection of Bernie Sanders, who is at least partly responsible for it by making some politically inadvisable moves. Same thing with Corbyn? Yes. In the same way that Sanders was rejected for being overly hostile to wealth creators in a society that tends to value them, Corbyn was rejected primarily for anti-semitic dogwhistles in a society that tends to be historically intolerant of anti-semitism (world war 2). (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Shageletic posted:still amazed at how much Labour hated Corbyn, who to my uninformed eyes seemed like an extremely pleasant guy. And weird that it happened at the same time the Dems in the States did such a rejection of Bernie Sanders, who is at least partly responsible for it by making some politically inadvisable moves. Same thing with Corbyn? Both faced an array of very similar forces; The material threat they posed to the ruling and financial elites was actually very small (The most extreme thing either man wants is... some industries to be run by the government), but the threat they were believed to pose because they represented at least some level of repudiation of neoliberal economic & political orthodoxy was incredibly strong. If one or both were to win elections, it would undermine everything the right and center have been saying for decades now, since Thatcher and Reagan took office - it could have just been a blip that was over after one or two terms, but it could have heralded a sea-change in the underlying political scenes in the US and UK, and by extension, further afield. There have been large parts of the Labour Party who are centrist, capitalist, and largely agree with the current world order. The Dem Party is even more fervently held by such people, where exceptions come up from below like the Squad and Lee Carter, whilst in Labour there have long been some holdouts on the left from the old days. But that's as may be, the point is that this potentially seismic shift leftwards was feared and hated by large elements of their parties just as much as the actual right-wing parties. Corbyn was simply too nice, too strong a believer in democracy and dialogue, or too naive (depending on your views) to clean house when he got the opportunity. Bernie didn't manage to get the opportunity because the party elite acted with a unity and determination not since in Dem politics since LBJ was in charge. So, Corbyn was trying to build bridges and lead a big-tent party to electoral success, in a situation where snap elections could have been called at any time (And indeed were, in 2017), and he was trying to do so at the helm of a political party that was rife with people who fanatically hated him. That's not hyperbole - we recently had a big leaked report that showed just how hard a faction of the Labour party was working to stop Corbyn from winning. The result, of course, was that he wasn't able to win an election, though 2017 went far better than expected and had he actually had a supported, united party it's very easy to believe he'd have become PM. Of course by the time the 2019 election was called the only issue that really mattered was Brexit, and there's a lot which could be said about that, but the die was already long since cast re: Labour hatred of Corbyn. That happened the day the members voted for him, and he endured more coups, betrayals, leaks, and sabotage than I can even call to mind. So it's more or less the same as with Bernie - neither man ran a 100% perfect campaign, but nobody ever does. It's just that because there were already enormous forces of capital lined up against them, their innocent comments became gaffes, their gaffes became dramatic mistakes, their actual mistakes became completely disqualifying. And where problems couldn't be found, because both men are fundamentally decent people who for-real wanted to do the best they could for their countries and had credible plans to do so, they were simply invented. Or in the case of antisemitism with Corbyn, a real problem was simultaneously treated with vastly outsized importance by the media whilst members of Labour were, we now know, deliberately sabotaging the process of investigating antisemitism claims with the intention of making Corbyn look bad.
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Just had a peep at today’s papers, the press seems to be falling in behind the government in general. Oh well.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Non Cummings chat: The cookie expires after 12 months I think
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Angepain posted:has boris just never had a media scandal that actually stopped him from getting re-elected so far and doesn't understand that it is in fact possible for his actions to have consequences Not that it prevented him getting re-elected but he has been sacked from various jobs. Here's a blast from the past: Guardian, 2004 posted:Tory MP Boris Johnson was sacked from his party's front bench last night over lurid claims about his love life. His fate was sealed by the mother of his alleged mistress, Petronella Wyatt, who said her daughter had become pregnant by him and had an abortion last month.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Middlesbrough isn’t a city or a town; it’s an open sore on the landscape. boro owns actually, it should be the new capital when london sinks into the ocean.
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Red Oktober posted:Just had a peep at today’s papers, the press seems to be falling in behind the government in general. Oh well. The Daily Mail are not, which is intriguing.
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Communist Bear posted:The Daily Mail are not, which is intriguing. Looks like the right-wing papers are all moving to confidence and supply until such times as they can stick the boot in and get Gove as PM. I’d expect to start seeing some of the stockpile of poo poo they have on Johnson to trickle out.
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:
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Yeah I dunno, it looks like all the nominally anti-Tory papers (and the Mail  ) are sticking the boot in, and the others are going with 'Boris gives backing to advisor Cummings' instead of 'Bozza Legend DESTROYS lefty smears against innocent angel Dommy Bantz'. Feels like they know there's genuine public anger and maybe more revelations to come, and maybe they'll have to hedge their bets for a few days until this shakes out.
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OwlFancier posted:Other than it's weird for a rational genius turbonerd to own a nightclub what's the significance? A few notes about this place from when I was at Durham (2008-2011): - full of young Tory wankers often dressed in full tweed w/ red bow-tie or similar - all the TVs in the club exclusively played highlights of the 2003 rugby World Cup on repeat every night - the playlist was exactly the same every night and included Steps, S Club 7, don’t stop believing and always ended on that’s amore - most popular drink was the ‘quaddie’, quadruple vodka served as two separate drinks (double vodka and orange and double vodka and cranberry) in a small glass and a half full pint glass so you could combine the two yourself, as you couldn’t legally serve 4 shots in one drink It was tiny, disgusting and you had a reasonable chance of bumping into an active member of the England test cricket team. Ouroboros fucked around with this message at 09:14 on May 25, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:Boro didn't exist 180 years ago so yeah, not a city. Also I don't think it has a cathederal unless they buried it somewhere. Cities in the UK are political appointments, not based on actual size. There were very few celebrations of Leicester's centenary last year, so I hope the cathedral does some suitably bizarre celebrations in 2027 to make up for it, like blessing the moon. 
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Guavanaut posted:There were very few celebrations of Leicester's centenary last year, so I hope the cathedral does some suitably bizarre celebrations in 2027 to make up for it, like blessing the moon. How did they fit the moon in there? It usually only comes out for night events.
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I didn't go there, but my impression of Durham uni was that certain of its colleges were seen as the backup plan for people without the grades or connections to make it into Oxford or Cambridge but who still aspired to spend their degree making posh braying noises and perhaps abusing some homeless people on their way to a career in politics and/or finance. So reports of a chronic young Tory infestation there are not surprising.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-nationals-uk-citizenship-home-office-latest-a9527036.html (Sorry phone posting so can't copy paste). This govt is a disgrace. EU applicants now being asked to provide evidence of private medical insurance since 2013! (Which apparently wasn't a requirement). Ed. For citizenship applications not settlement.
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Ouroboros posted:A few notes about this place from when I was at Durham (2008-2011): Oh god I'm retroactively realising my nights out before lockdown were terrible 
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The Deleter posted:I feel like I've had experiences a lot like this, except the Tories were less posh and it was Mysterious Girl on instead. I don't think I've ever experienced a nightclub that stank or trapped you in sports hell though? Yeah I mean it's not unusual in the sense of being a lovely cheese student night, it was that juxtaposed with the weirdly posh clientele that made it noteworthy I think. You would often see people who had come from college formals or similar wearing dinner jackets and cummerbunds, and every time Jonny Wilkinson's drop goal went through (about 20-30 times per night) there would be a fit of drunken braying. Ouroboros fucked around with this message at 09:17 on May 25, 2020 |
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Ouroboros posted:Yeah I mean it's not unusual in the sense of being a lovely cheese student night, it was that juxtaposed with the weirdly posh clientele that made it noteworthy I think. You would often see people who had come from college formals or similar wearing dinner jackets and cummerbunds, and every time Jonny Wilkinson's drop goal went through (about 20-30 times per night) there would be a fit of drunken braying. That very much sounds like a Hell designed by some very dedicated devils to torture me.
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Yeah god, even the people I went out with woulda had the sense to get the gently caress out of that nightmare. Surely nobody can love 2004 rugby that much.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-nationals-uk-citizenship-home-office-latest-a9527036.html That one is a bit more complicated than it might seem - the freedom of movement rules require comprehensive health coverage, and the UK has long argued that NHS is not enough. The government didn't argue too hard in the past out of the fear of beig overturned, but it's definitely something they pointed out even if they didn't actively enforce it. The main difficulty being that getting a private provider to offer sufficiently "comprehensive" health insurance in the UK is nigh on impossible thanks to NHS being a thing, and complete stupidity besides for the same reason. The home office also once ruled there is in fact no form of private insurance available at the time which would meet their own test, because, uhh. Either way it's not a new thing, presumably they just stopped giving a gently caress about being overturned thanks to impending Brexit.
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The Deleter posted:Yeah god, even the people I went out with woulda had the sense to get the gently caress out of that nightmare. Surely nobody can love 2004 rugby that much. 2004 was when Jonah Lomu had his kidney transplant and tried to make a rugby comeback but couldn't pull it off. Then he died some years later from complications related to kidney disease. He was one of my sporting idols, what a guy. That's my 2004 rugby story.
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kecske posted:2004 was when Jonah Lomu had his kidney transplant and tried to make a rugby comeback but couldn't pull it off. Then he died some years later from complications related to kidney disease. He was one of my sporting idols, what a guy. I've never watched much rugby, but I remember that when Lomu had the ball and was at full speed, there was a genuine expression of fear on his opponents' faces. And most rugby players are Tories, so making them scared is a public service well done.
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