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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:There was a ReOpen NJ protest at Point Pleasent today christ I feel like I’m living in a horror movie, like these sound bytes are being played over the footage from a few months from now of mass graves being filled
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Crazypoops posted:You can't convince me America isn't 95% demons in human costumes it invented mass consumerism, baby. if desire isn't the devil, what is
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Inceltown posted:https://twitter.com/ChrisEgginton/status/1265152722363314182 lol I was all ready to be ‘hey this has to just be authorities being dumb right’ but it’s the second person to pull this poo poo?? lol
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starting work tomorrow and I’m nervous. bought some fully sealed goggles that look like scuba goggles and work is providing n95 masks. I’m a dentist. wish me luck.
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Lawlicaust posted:The replies on his thread are so loving depressing. People ranting about 5G, getting pissed about HCQ being called out, calling it all a hoax. The really sad thing is that there are some people on the thread that really have no clue what’s up and are asking sincere questions but they get drowned out by “plandemic.” But what if we monetized the rot?
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Piggy Smalls posted:starting work tomorrow and I’m nervous. bought some fully sealed goggles that look like scuba goggles and work is providing n95 masks. I’m a dentist. wish me luck. That's rough. Good luck.
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VectorSigma posted:Ｄ Ｒ ₊ Ｈ Ｅ Λ Ｌ
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Nocturtle posted:Reminds me of this article on potential airborne transmission 2004 SARs outbreak and this picture: Is the virus actually airborne? I saw a research paper that had successfully kept COVID19 viable suspended in a little vial of air for many hours IIRC. But then then WHO announced that no, it is absolutely not airborne, just droplets that fall only. Then the choir practice outbreaks had a huge infection rate, which again suggests airborne, and there was all that talk in China about improper drain plumbing and fecal gasses spreading it. Which is it? Does anyone have any other evidence on this?
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1024x768 posted:they forgot the word "paid" in the tweet She's 100% getting fired, who gives a poo poo if she makes a few extra days of base salary? No Q2 bonus and no YE bonus. They're running everything through legal and HR and she'll be out the door in no time This is one less person they're gonna have to lay off later in the year and it's a pretty clear cut violation of whatever written corporate ethics standard they have
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May 26, 2020 07:44
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Piggy Smalls posted:starting work tomorrow and I’m nervous. bought some fully sealed goggles that look like scuba goggles and work is providing n95 masks. I’m a dentist. wish me luck. Ugh, dentistry sounds like the worst place to be for this too. Good luck
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May 26, 2020 07:47
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Theiry: The whole 5G causes/activated Covid (not sure what exactly these nutters claim, I don't care enough about that to do research) is making all anti 5G sentiments look bad. Soon when people argue against some factor of 5G they will be branded an idiot. This would also mean that anybody saying they are uncomfortable with Chinese hardware in 5G networks is disregarded as a loon. If there was any 5G conspiracy at all, then it would probably be exactly this so China can install its horrible spyware because people associate 5G concerns with complete lunatics from now on. 
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May 26, 2020 07:56
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Is the virus actually airborne? I saw a research paper that had successfully kept COVID19 viable suspended in a little vial of air for many hours IIRC. But then then WHO announced that no, it is absolutely not airborne, just droplets that fall only. Then the choir practice outbreaks had a huge infection rate, which again suggests airborne, and there was all that talk in China about improper drain plumbing and fecal gasses spreading it. Which is it? Does anyone have any other evidence on this? Basically the more prolonged your contact with an infected person is and the more the infected person is doing intense respiratory activity the more dangerous things are. I think the best point to compare this with is the secondary household attack rate: somewhere around 10-20% of housemates get infected from another infected person in their household. This is low, it's lower than the attack rate in group fitness activities and much lower than the attack rate on choirs. So it definitely can transmit long distances, as in the case of choirs, but there's more to it. I tend to speculate that the minimum infectious dose is the other key ingredient here. The more ACE2 expression you have (i.e. the older you are mostly), the lower the required initial dose to infect you is. So for younger people you need more sustained contact but for older people a more transient dose is all it takes. If you're outdoors running, you're unlikely to be by someone long enough to get dosed and you're unlikely to dose someone. Standing in line behind someone having a coughing fit? That might be long enough. In the same gym as an infected person that's doing cardio for an hour? Uh oh. In the same household as an infected person that's quarantined in their room and only breathing and coughing far away from you? Maybe not that bad actually.
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Hopper posted:Theiry: The whole 5G causes/activated Covid (not sure what exactly these nutters claim, I don't care enough about that to do research) is making all anti 5G sentiments look bad. Soon when people argue against some factor of 5G they will be branded an idiot. This would also mean that anybody saying they are uncomfortable with Chinese hardware in 5G networks is disregarded as a loon. My conspiracy theory is that most conspiracy theories are created to make any legitimate critical discussion of something impossible.
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May 26, 2020 07:57
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Is the virus actually airborne? I saw a research paper that had successfully kept COVID19 viable suspended in a little vial of air for many hours IIRC. But then then WHO announced that no, it is absolutely not airborne, just droplets that fall only. Then the choir practice outbreaks had a huge infection rate, which again suggests airborne, and there was all that talk in China about improper drain plumbing and fecal gasses spreading it. Which is it? Does anyone have any other evidence on this? It seems entirely circumstantial. If you're doing something aerosolizes respiratory droplets, like singing, you're going to get an aerosolized dispersal pattern. This is no different than weaponized delivery systems for biological weapons: you get a wider, more persistent spread if you have a way to get the suspension medium aerosolized into very tiny droplets. The virus can ride on those if they're being created, which is not always true.
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May 26, 2020 07:59
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Is the virus actually airborne? I saw a research paper that had successfully kept COVID19 viable suspended in a little vial of air for many hours IIRC. But then then WHO announced that no, it is absolutely not airborne, just droplets that fall only. Then the choir practice outbreaks had a huge infection rate, which again suggests airborne, and there was all that talk in China about improper drain plumbing and fecal gasses spreading it. Which is it? Does anyone have any other evidence on this? we literally do not know for sure. all of the 100s of studies and clinical trials are currently ongoing and they're just going to take time to complete and then come to any sort of scientific consensus. fosborb posted:here's a pretty succinct summery of the current knowns/unknowns. I happen to know a colleague of hers at the CDC (a fellow MPH working in infectious diseases) who also agrees with this assessment: we are trending toward indoors, prolonged exposure is the actual danger, but nothing is solidified enough to say what the risk actually is for curbside take out, homemade masks, or playgrounds.
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Trixie Hardcore posted:How will we tell the difference? imo it's okay to not like things
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:There was a ReOpen NJ protest at Point Pleasent today quote:and at one point a speaker urged everyone to "reach out and touch someone," prompting hugs among those in attendance. gently caress that, I would not feel safe at that event even pre-covid
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fosborb posted:we are trending toward indoors, prolonged exposure is the actual danger, but nothing is solidified enough to say what the risk actually is for curbside take out, homemade masks, or playgrounds. There have been outdoors outbreaks but the ratio compared to indoors is extreme, like 100 indoor outbreaks for each single outdoor outbreak. I've also been waiting to see a fomite-driven outbreak but haven't found a single one. I know there was a McDonald's outbreak from a delivery driver in Melbourne but as far as I can tell that was driven from in person transmission. If contaminated surfaces were an attack vector then surely we would have contact traced cases where the index patient is a delivery worker or a cook at a specific restaurant (like typhoid mary), but those sort of outbreaks just aren't occurring.
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Nocturtle posted:Reminds me of this article on potential airborne transmission 2004 SARs outbreak and this picture: lol at this virus plume 
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:My conspiracy theory is that most conspiracy theories are created to make any legitimate critical discussion of something impossible. Conspiracy theories are created to make actual legitimate theories more credible is definitely a take.
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:If contaminated surfaces were an attack vector then surely we would have contact traced cases where the index patient is a delivery worker or a cook at a specific restaurant (like typhoid mary), but those sort of outbreaks just aren't occurring. i agree, but no one has been able to study it enough at this point to say this is the specific rate these types of transmissions are occurring (be it 0.0001% or otherwise). it's real lovely 
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fosborb posted:we literally do not know for sure. all of the 100s of studies and clinical trials are currently ongoing and they're just going to take time to complete and then come to any sort of scientific consensus. Then why did the WHO announce definitively that it is not aerosol in that big headline. Like what were they thinking. If that's wrong is that a huge scandal for an organization that's otherwise been more correct than the CDC? Or was it a matter of the article saying something that's technically a little different from the sensational headline I remember?
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Then why did the WHO announce definitively that it is not aerosol in that big headline. Like what were they thinking. If that's wrong is that a huge scandal for an organization that's otherwise been more correct than the CDC? wasn't that months ago?
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Then why did the WHO announce definitively that it is not aerosol in that big headline. Like what were they thinking. If that's wrong is that a huge scandal for an organization that's otherwise been more correct than the CDC? i mean gently caress dude, if you're looking for answers like that on SA no one is going to be able to credibly help you here's the latest from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s0522-cdc-updates-covid-transmission.html a personal friend of mine vouches for it, so it falls within my personal risk assessment to say we cant say for sure it isn't spread other ways too. primary way is stay out of the plume of a church singer. but maybe lets keep the playground equipment roped off for a bit as well.
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There are dumb scientific meanings behind the term "airborne" when applied to disease transmission. Virions have to be able to cling to dry condensation nuclei on the air and float along with them to be truly airborne. Tiny respiratory droplets that linger on the air don't meet this criteria. They're too wet. That's it. That's the difference. Also truly airborne viruses can have absurd spread rates, like chickenpox or measles.
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my toddler had a 20 minute tantrum because we drove by a playground that was no longer roped off and a bunch of kids were playing on it because we've opened er up! there was a post in this thread yesterday from some d&d poster that said public health policy doesn't matter -- only personal compliance, and we need to have soft influence and social pressure and NGOs providing food to stay in rather than fines to enforce compliance so we dont piss off the chuds. public health policy absolutely loving matters. holy poo poo
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fosborb posted:my toddler had a 20 minute tantrum because we drove by a playground that was no longer roped off and a bunch of kids were playing on it because we've opened er up! 20 minutes? weak effort imo
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RandomBlue posted:Conspiracy theories are created to make actual legitimate theories more credible is definitely a take. I thought his point was that you can't have any kind of debate about something that is the subject of a bunch of conspiracy theories because you get lumped in with the lunatics. For example a proper study that suggested 5G did cause some sort of health problem would never get taken seriously no matter how rigorous and well designed it was because fucktards think it spreads coronavirus.
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Solarin posted:20 minutes? weak effort imo it absolutely was, but after the 20 mins is slaughterhouse rules which gets way more dramatic very very quickly
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Scary! Too posted:https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1264035521057050624  that thumbnail, Neiman Marcus and JC Penny are already buckled and going to bankrupt, nothing like liquidation sales  oxsnard posted:Internet reviews for doctors are notoriously unreliable but also lol People will complain about anything and everything to anyone anywhere. They'll also lie and exaggerate to discredit decent doctors because there's no real way you speak to their manager.Imagine being racist enough to travel an additional half hour on your own dime because your doctor is too brown to trust. Also the only people who comment about doctors are people complaining about them. Otherwise they're complaining that all the But generally lovely doctors don't last long, they get ripped a new one from affiliated health insurance companies over "patient care" and that's a paycheck they can't afford to cut unless they're niche, extremely specialty, or making bank from wealthy clients.  There's a reason why the "they killed my dog all options are on the table" is a trope in America, because people will ruin you over treating your pet as bad as ICE treats immigrants. Skull Servant posted:While this is good, the Chief Medical Officer was very adamant that the only reason we had no recorded deaths today was because of the weekend effect. We are still above 50 cases a day and will probably be in double digits for another week or so. Villages in India barricaded roads and refused travelers with grassroots vigilante mobs, I think Ireland might have slightly better organizational skills to fend off the English plaguebearers.
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The off-leash dog owner who tried to sicc the cops on that guy has issued an apology and she's trying to claim that she wasn't aware that cops shoot black peoplequote:"I sincerely and humbly apologize to everyone, especially to that man, his family," she said in a phone call. "It was unacceptable and I humbly and fully apologize to everyone who’s seen that video, everyone that’s been offended…everyone who thinks of me in a lower light and I understand why they do." 
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Damage control. She already said too much of the truth of her intent in the video. I'm gonna tell them you're African American
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Damage control. She already said too much of the truth of her intent in the video. I'm gonna tell them you're African American Yeah she's blatantly lying
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So um. Lately I've been having short term memory issues that bug the hell out of me. It's not a new thing, but it's happening more, and I get more and more irritated lately by it to the point of ruining my day over trying to get myself back on track. I have OCD so I just can't handle it when it happens. Bad insomnia and fatigue lately too, from racing thoughts and nightmares. Today I think I figured out why my health's going downhill in so many ways. I weighed myself at 124lbs today. I'm a man. I lost 7 pounds in exactly a month. I'm malnourished now, cool. I guess I can't make my own food for poo poo. Before this I ate out a lot, but I've been locked down since March 6th to a much greater extent than everyone I've heard of. One grocery trip per month, hermetically sealed in one place otherwise. So yeah, weigh yourselves, folks. And make food more often even if it means not making a big skilled production out of it.
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Australia has let another roni boat in. https://twitter.com/Sophiemcneill/status/1265150141809389568 The current PM even had these made to hand out to people and this is the second plague ship he's let through. 
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Inceltown posted:Australia has let another roni boat in. The federal Minister for Agriculture is already backpedalling like crazy and trying to avert blame, first going "Oh we knew they were unwell but we didn't know they were SICK" and then going "No someone totally sent the guys in WA an email about it, once we check the records and find it we'll show it to you!" quote:But Mr Littleproud told Nine Radio's 6PR it wasn't until May 22 after the Al Kuwait had berthed in Fremantle that the ship notified the federal government a crew member had an elevated temperature and was showing symptoms of the disease. For an extra dollop of spice: there's going to be a 3 month moratorium on live exports out of Australia starting next week and quarantining the ship before allowing it to dock would have no doubt cost someone a shitload of money so the timing on all this is verrrrry suspicious
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