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ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
There's something interesting to be written about the way the Tory party has evolved from a aristo-bougie alliance focused on paternalistic nationalism and imperialist power projection into a fundamentalist libertarian free-market party. The former, at least, made sure the state was able to defend its trade routes and colonial assets whereas the latter seems happy to flog absolutely everything they have to the highest bidder. Johnson doesn't seem to quite know which party he belongs to in that sense. He clearly wants to invoke the gravitas of the old guard but constantly fails to do so, mostly because he's unwilling to commit to anything that would upset his free-marketeer wing too much. It's indicative of a genuinely fascinating contradiction within the framework of the Conservative Party of the 21st century, and not necessarily one that can be easily resolved. It's frustrating though - an effective and well-resourced socialist movement could get a huge amount of a mileage out of attacking those fracture lines, particularly at the present moment. Good job Labour got rid of the nasty mild social democrat Stalinist just in time!

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


HidaO-Win posted:

This is going to end the lockdown, then Cummings will smugly claim it was all 5D chess by his giant brain to get the scared chattel back out in the fields.

Then 500,000 people will die of rona and they’ll talk about them as the glorious dead.

Gove elected with landslide.

We definitely need a way to innoculate kids against post-truth poo poo for when despite clear incompetence and a massive death toll, the baddies come out of this proclaiming themselves the bigly winners.

im sick of these time travellers making GBS threads up the thread with their inevitable visions of the future

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

c0burn posted:

They've just announced a review of all fines due to childcare

This country is absolutely mental

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1265328468067311616?s=20

Nope, denied peasant, pay your fines and get back in the line.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling




Ms Adequate posted:

On the other hand I can live without the proof that this has dented Tory support by like 3%

Glad to see my ridiculously hyperbolic number actually overshot the mark by a full 50%

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT


strong shorts and wellies game

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

OwlFancier posted:

Kids are already doing a much better job at seeing through it than the old are.

Also strictly the death toll I think is more likely to top out around 300 000 in the immediate term because once about 50% of people have been infected that's likely to reduce the chance of a viable host enough to push the infectivity below 1 even without distancing.

So you know, swings and roundabouts.

Yeah but doesn't the immunity eventually run out? So you'd need an outbreak at least once a year and also another 300,000 deaths? You know the thing the herd immunity crew keep ignoring.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Regarde Aduck posted:

Yeah but doesn't the immunity eventually run out? So you'd need an outbreak at least once a year and also another 300,000 deaths? You know the thing the herd immunity crew keep ignoring.

If it does then one would presume that it doesn't wear out all at once, so it's more like you'd have a running continuous death rate from it like you do other diseases.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/homunculette/status/1265333379337256961?s=20

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Regarde Aduck posted:

Yeah but doesn't the immunity eventually run out? So you'd need an outbreak at least once a year and also another 300,000 deaths? You know the thing the herd immunity crew keep ignoring.

Hopefully by the time that happens we'd be vaccinating to maintain actual herd immunity.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010


Isn't abolishing representative democracy and having everything in the party decided by OMOV a good thing though?

I mean obviously he wanted to do it marginalise the left, but it seems like a bad example to use of how right wing he is.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yeah I'm not really sure how to read that either. I assume he would now prefer to do something else seeing as that does not appear to gently caress over the left.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

Yeah I'm not really sure how to read that either. I assume he would now prefer to do something else seeing as that does not appear to gently caress over the left.

It's actually be a pretty good test of his principles to see if he still wants that, considering Gen Sec is meant to be a non-political position.

I mean I don't hold out that much hope, but then the membership did elect Starmer so maybe he would.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I had sort of skipped over the notion that a blairite would have principles.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
have this one then

https://twitter.com/jamesthesimp/status/1265329959922470918?s=20

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Oh yeah he's apparently a general piece of poo poo in a lot of ways lol.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
He was apparently responsible for this amazing bucket of swill.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

The Deleter posted:

I'm not having any fuckin' polls in this thread again, we had enough of that poo poo in December and it was soul destroying.

Yeah agreed, unless a poll is exceptionally interesting I'm not going to be giving any shits about "today's poll shows +2 movement in this direction, let's see how it does tomorrow and until then dissect this poll like the empty frog it is"

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

We just need a touch more fascism

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

[relevant dril tweet]

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Continuity RCP posted:

We just need a touch more fascism
https://twitter.com/komsomoI/status/1265343068686991366

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



Whom amongst us could've possibly predicted that a Starmer leadership would be used to ensure the left don't get to sniff the leadership or control of the party ever again?

I can only repeat that anyone who voted for Starmer to be leader should feel really bad and will hopefully reflect on this that Labour is dead for the foreseeable future as a method for enacting socialism.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

OwlFancier posted:

Fewer deaths recorded on a weekend afaik. They catch up on those over the next week.

Thanks. And is this just because there are fewer doctors about to certify deaths on weekends?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Or fewer people to communicate it to the central office. It has not hitherto been very important to record deaths centrally at immediate notice. The deaths are likely recorded locally but nobody forwards the paperwork on.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

Makes sense, thanks

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1265360896185991168?s=21

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

When my grandmother died it took a few days to get the death certificate made up and that was done at the town hall, which is also where they kept the archive, and the death could not be recorded officially with the government until we had that. So depending on their methodology they may be a few days behind even optimally, unless they're getting their death stats directly from hospital morgues.

As I recall we basically got a chitty from the hospital saying "yep she dead" and had to take that to the town hall to get the proper one made up.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Loving the number of northern MP's who are new and Tory getting several thousand emails from their new constituents basically saying "my friends told me you can't trust the Tories to do anything for us and that all they're out to do is protect the rich and powerful, and I didn't believe them and voted for you anyway and not it turns out that they were right."

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
I found this video enormously interesting.

Anyway, this is 42 mins but he's a good presenter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU

I fell foul of the copyright thing - last year I found an old cassette from maybe 30 years ago with an audio recording of a Southbank Show featuring snippets of Hendrix tracks, interviews with musicians from around the same time, band etc. - and checked the relevant archives of Southbank Show and saw it was missing. I converted it to a video (just the audio with a handful of static Hendrix images) and uploaded it and within a few minutes it was blocked! Since then I've discovered that playback of Hendrix material (even 30 second snippets!) is banned in 249 countries!

More widely, I do simple websites for friends and family and have the devil of a job convincing them that they can't just lift images off the internet, block copy wiki etc. even if they do give a link back or a reference.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

OwlFancier posted:

When my grandmother died it took a few days to get the death certificate made up and that was done at the town hall, which is also where they kept the archive, and the death could not be recorded officially with the government until we had that. So depending on their methodology they may be a few days behind even optimally, unless they're getting their death stats directly from hospital morgues.

As I recall we basically got a chitty from the hospital saying "yep she dead" and had to take that to the town hall to get the proper one made up.

I had to do the same for my dad, which was when I found out that Portsmouth registry office has a separate entrance and hallway for death registrations

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

OwlFancier posted:

When my grandmother died it took a few days to get the death certificate made up and that was done at the town hall, which is also where they kept the archive, and the death could not be recorded officially with the government until we had that. So depending on their methodology they may be a few days behind even optimally, unless they're getting their death stats directly from hospital morgues.

As I recall we basically got a chitty from the hospital saying "yep she dead" and had to take that to the town hall to get the proper one made up.

When my dad died, we couldn't get an appointment to register the death in Gloucester (as the county town where parents lived) for 10 days. Deaths are supposed to be registered within 5 days.

Firstly, there was a phone number to make an appointment in a town near where their home was which my mum tried phoning many times a day for days on end but no answer. We later discovered the office it rang into was unstaffed except, apparently, for 2 hours a fortnight, there was no recorded message or anything.
Fortunately for mum, my siblings and I are internet savvy and when we found out looked online, had to book the appointment on line and earliest was 10 days. So we couldn't even set a funeral date until after that. Then we had to get to Gloucester. Again, luckily there are drivers in the family because it is just about impossible to get from parents' home to Gloucester by public transport in a single day, let alone home again.

Friends were astonished because mostly they live in cities and they can register it the same or next day as the death. City dwellers have no idea how difficult things can be for rural dwellers.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Ours is in the normal town hall, which is a shame because the town hall does have a crypt, but the crypt is a performance venue.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

When my dad died, we couldn't get an appointment to register the death in Gloucester (as the county town where parents lived) for 10 days. Deaths are supposed to be registered within 5 days.

Firstly, there was a phone number to make an appointment in a town near where their home was which my mum tried phoning many times a day for days on end but no answer. We later discovered the office it rang into was unstaffed except, apparently, for 2 hours a fortnight, there was no recorded message or anything.
Fortunately for mum, my siblings and I are internet savvy and when we found out looked online, had to book the appointment on line and earliest was 10 days. So we couldn't even set a funeral date until after that. Then we had to get to Gloucester. Again, luckily there are drivers in the family because it is just about impossible to get from parents' home to Gloucester by public transport in a single day, let alone home again.

Friends were astonished because mostly they live in cities and they can register it the same or next day as the death. City dwellers have no idea how difficult things can be for rural dwellers.

Yeah the funeral places won't even look at you until you've got the death certificate.

It's weird how arsey some people get at you about the whole thing. Like you ring up the bank and that to tell them the person is dead and they get shirty with you demanding this and that. And you're like "look it makes no odds to me whether you think she's dead I'm doing this as a favour to you"

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 20:37 on May 26, 2020

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

forkboy84 posted:

Whom amongst us could've possibly predicted that a Starmer leadership would be used to ensure the left don't get to sniff the leadership or control of the party ever again?

I can only repeat that anyone who voted for Starmer to be leader should feel really bad and will hopefully reflect on this that Labour is dead for the foreseeable future as a method for enacting socialism.
it's going to be fantastic when Bojo and co. do a re-run of the Major years of constant failure, scandals, and unpopularity, leading straight into Starmer by default as Blair Mk II; we'll never hear the end of smug "you idealistic lefties don't realise... electability... grown-up politics... sensible... he did some good things... being a bit racist is necessary" poo poo until, of course, we all drown, starve, or suffocate because they weren't aggressive enough on climate issues

missed these! majestic :3:

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Wachter posted:

Thanks. And is this just because there are fewer doctors about to certify deaths on weekends?

We have a skeleton staff of doctors at the weekend and the bereavement department of the hospital is usually closed anyway, so no death certificates at all get done out of hours.

The only exceptions are for religious reasons, and only then if we can manage it between emergencies.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I found this video enormously interesting.

Anyway, this is 42 mins but he's a good presenter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU

I fell foul of the copyright thing - last year I found an old cassette from maybe 30 years ago with an audio recording of a Southbank Show featuring snippets of Hendrix tracks, interviews with musicians from around the same time, band etc. - and checked the relevant archives of Southbank Show and saw it was missing. I converted it to a video (just the audio with a handful of static Hendrix images) and uploaded it and within a few minutes it was blocked! Since then I've discovered that playback of Hendrix material (even 30 second snippets!) is banned in 249 countries!

More widely, I do simple websites for friends and family and have the devil of a job convincing them that they can't just lift images off the internet, block copy wiki etc. even if they do give a link back or a reference.

There were a bunch of the VIDS shows I uploaded recently flagged for copyright blocks over 90-second clips of films etc, I was fucks sake man, delete the whole upload, re-edit it to blur/mute out the offending material, reupload it. Pain in the arse. Almost every one of the 72 shows has multiple copyright notifications that I can't monetise the item (which I had no interest in doing), but as long as there's no blocks I'm happy*.

It's surprising just how 'good' the Google algo is at recognising a bunch of short snippets of media from a significant percentage of global film/tv/music in the short time it takes to process a video.

*I lie; one of the last shows I uploaded has a partial play block because of one clip, but its blocked in France only and tough poo poo I guess Frenchies.

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

I know the thread isn't a huge fan of George Galloway, but this is a hell of a speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTXh9NG6Dg

I'm only half way through, but so far he's shat on British hypocrisy over foreign resistance to occupation, how Labour is now indistinguishable from the Tories (it's dated in 2013), the risk of breaking up the UK because of the lack of a left wing party at the Scottish referendum, the impact of austerity, political corruption, the metaphorical reduction in the stature of politicians, police corruption, newspaper corruption, and now on to the bankers and the scale of tax evasion. It's quite articulate and engaging.

frankenbeans
Feb 16, 2003

Good Times
I recently got a bunch of stuff flagged on youtube that I uploaded over 10 years ago. I made a few Eve Online videos back in 2004-ish, and uploaded them to youtube in 2008-9, I think. They were fine for a decade then a few people started watching them and before I knew it I was getting warnings. It's entirely understandable, because I pretty much used entire tracks start to finish. Zombies by the Cranberries still hasn't been flagged though.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


NoneMoreNegative posted:

There were a bunch of the VIDS shows I uploaded recently flagged for copyright blocks over 90-second clips of films etc, I was fucks sake man, delete the whole upload, re-edit it to blur/mute out the offending material, reupload it. Pain in the arse. Almost every one of the 72 shows has multiple copyright notifications that I can't monetise the item (which I had no interest in doing), but as long as there's no blocks I'm happy*.

It's surprising just how 'good' the Google algo is at recognising a bunch of short snippets of media from a significant percentage of global film/tv/music in the short time it takes to process a video.

*I lie; one of the last shows I uploaded has a partial play block because of one clip, but its blocked in France only and tough poo poo I guess Frenchies.

Most of that poo poo should be fine under fair use but of course it is an affirmative defense in the US, i.e. nearly worthless in most practical cases, and many countries don't have a well developed doctrine around fair use in the first place.

[edit] What is the status of "fair use" or equivalent in the UK these days anyway?

Betjeman
Jul 14, 2004

Biker, Biker, Biker GROOVE!

Wachter posted:

Thanks. And is this just because there are fewer doctors about to certify deaths on weekends?

A death is confirmed by a team member of the consultant responsible for care who had seen them in the previous 14 days. This is for several reasons, confirmation of identity, reason for death, whether the death was expected and in keeping with the reason they were in hospital, whether there was any anomalies in the drug chart etc. This is required before releasing the body to the family.

At the weekend the doctor witnessing the death was probably on call and just checked for pulse and breathing and not much else.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Talking of youtube flagging, I had one of the live vids of my old band (from our first ever gig no less) pulled down for ‘hate speech’ earlier this year.

The video had been up since November 2010, and contains nothing that I could imagine as being ‘hate speech’ under any definition of the word, unless the title of the song (‘Skullhead’) somehow triggered the algorithm?

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

frankenbeans posted:

I recently got a bunch of stuff flagged on youtube that I uploaded over 10 years ago. I made a few Eve Online videos back in 2004-ish, and uploaded them to youtube in 2008-9, I think. They were fine for a decade then a few people started watching them and before I knew it I was getting warnings. It's entirely understandable, because I pretty much used entire tracks start to finish. Zombies by the Cranberries still hasn't been flagged though.

I assume Little Bees is still fine :sun:

Edit: skullhead does sound rather close to totenkopf which obviously has dodgy associations...

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