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MikeJF posted:I think what he was planning was making a point that death can come from anywhere and be random sometimes and not everyone has a heroic death and in war even main characters can be side effect casualties, and the argument he was having was that if you're doing that, you have to go all in on it; waffling and adding a little bit of redemptive heroics just destroys the effect and makes the whole thing mediocre. Death can come from anywhere, including a space wizard who teleports behind you and shoots you with a really bad looking red lightning bolt, the ultimate death. Big Mean Jerk posted:It almost pains me to say this, but Mayweather really should have been more like Neelix; sort of a local guide, knows space travel better than the rest of the human crew, is less fazed by crazy poo poo and aliens popping in. That kind of knowledge and confidence would have given him a way better personality than the wet-behind-the-ears rookie poo poo that makes no sense given his background. Again, he's basically just a lovely Belter, who in the expanse make up an oppressed minority of working joes. They aren't the smartest or most educated, but being spacers from the day they're born they have an innate knowledge of the dangers of space travel, having grown up in a culture where you have to fix substandard equipment every few weeks or you suffocate or die from thirst or hunger. The belters in the Expanse can't put out state of the art super warships like the other factions can, but they can also slap a bunch of 30 year old rockets on an asteroid and launch it at your planet. But then you'd have no justification to not make travis the chief engineer, so he's just...a guy that's seen a lot of poo poo in outer space, none of which apparently applies to any situation except ones specifically involving his "people".
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Death can come from anywhere, including a space wizard who teleports behind you and shoots you with a really bad looking red lightning bolt, the ultimate death. Oh yeah, I know what he was going for but DS9 and 90s Trek in general just wasn't the show that that kind of thing would ever fit in.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Death can come from anywhere, including a space wizard who teleports behind you and shoots you with a really bad looking red lightning bolt, the ultimate death. make travis the chief technician instead of chief engineer, have constant character bickering over theoretical vs practical solutions. Have Trip and Archer get upset that their precious warp engine is held together with space baling wire.
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May 26, 2020 09:08
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Tunicate posted:make travis the chief technician instead of chief engineer, have constant character bickering over theoretical vs practical solutions. Have Trip and Archer get upset that their precious warp engine is held together with space baling wire.
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Tunicate posted:make travis the chief technician instead of chief engineer, have constant character bickering over theoretical vs practical solutions. Have Trip and Archer get upset that their precious warp engine is held together with space baling wire. I like the idea of Trip being a technobabbler and Travis just fixing things midway through the nonsense explanation. "We need to reconfigure the tetreon phase injectors." "No need. I plugged the blue thing into the green thing and our warp engines are back online." "...but..but the power couplings" All I'm saying is I want Tech Sergent Jen or whatever from Galaxy Quest to be a guy.
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Tunicate posted:what WAS the event anyway? The series ended with the aliens portaling their home planet near earth
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Tunicate posted:what WAS the event anyway? Do NOT remember the Event! Remain Indoors!
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FlamingLiberal posted:The series ended with the aliens portaling their home planet near earth The last line of the series was awesome.
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FlamingLiberal posted:
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A question just occured to me while thinking about Spiner's role in Star Trek: Picard: Do many modern day shows still do the "actor plays his/her character's ancestor or descendant, because of course they are going to look and sound the same" thing? It feels like a very 80's/90's thing, and I can't immediately think of many contemporary examples (outside of Trek, of course).
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It feels like a thing in romantic comedies where the heroine falls in love with a man from the past or vice versa but then they have to return to their own time but then they meet their descendant, but I can't think of any examples. Uh, Power Rangers Time Force does that in reverse, Pink Ranger falls in love with her dead fiance's ancestor, enough so that she breaks off the engagement when she finds out her fiance is still alive.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Again, he's basically just a lovely Belter, who in the expanse make up an oppressed minority of working joes. They aren't the smartest or most educated, but being spacers from the day they're born they have an innate knowledge of the dangers of space travel, having grown up in a culture where you have to fix substandard equipment every few weeks or you suffocate or die from thirst or hunger. The belters in the Expanse can't put out state of the art super warships like the other factions can, but they can also slap a bunch of 30 year old rockets on an asteroid and launch it at your planet. But then you'd have no justification to not make travis the chief engineer, so he's just...a guy that's seen a lot of poo poo in outer space, none of which apparently applies to any situation except ones specifically involving his "people". Now see, that would have been a great source of organic, character-driven conflict. One character is assigned the chief engineer because he knows everything about the fancy new warp 5 engine, but up until this assignment virtually all of his work was on paper and in the lab; the other literally grew up in space around starships and warp engines, but not this one so he gets relegated to pilot and is initially ignored as this kind of backward space trucker. E: beaten like Anthony Montgomery at script negotiations, but it just shows how burned out everyone on Enterprise was if half a dozen goons can come up with the same basic-rear end idea McSpanky fucked around with this message at 17:23 on May 26, 2020 |
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May 26, 2020 17:18
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I mean you just described Stamets and Reno in Discovery, pretty much.
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I'd be ok even without the natural conflict between technician and engineer. I'd be happy even if Mayweather was "just" in the Neelix role for ENT - more jaded and knowledgeable about weird space poo poo and new aliens. I guess T'pol is the designated "I know about this stuff already" person, but Mayweather being the designated "wtf is this" guy would have been great. I'm on my first watch, and we just hit the episode with the freighter trying to take on a Nausicaan pirate base. That episode would have been absolutely perfect to establish Mayweather as a Neelix-type guide, but instead it's just kind of a one-off "oh yeah you grew up on freighters too? Neat!" with the idiot who almost gets his freighter destroyed.
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MikeJF posted:TSCC derek is probably a good example of the feeling he was trying for (even though that was during an armed situation.) I hated to lose the character, but that was a really good moment of television. It was a necessary reminder that Terminators are loving dangerous and that everyone is playing with their life on the table. And then instead of a third season, we got Salvation.
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Apparently one day in 1967 was the only time Nemoy ever appeared in public in makeup and costume:
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Arglebargle III posted:Apparently one day in 1967 was the only time Nemoy ever appeared in public in makeup and costume: this owns
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Arglebargle III posted:Apparently one day in 1967 was the only time Nemoy ever appeared in public in makeup and costume: Thanks, I love it
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Arglebargle III posted:Apparently one day in 1967 was the only time Nemoy ever appeared in public in makeup and costume: I'm pretty sure he was wearing his costume around in public in SF in 1986
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Tunicate posted:I'm pretty sure he was wearing his costume around in public in SF in 1986 That was a body double, he was too busy directing
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Arglebargle III posted:Apparently one day in 1967 was the only time Nemoy ever appeared in public in makeup and costume: My recollection is that he was grand marshal of a parade in Grants Pass, OR (which is a pretty small town).
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HD DAD posted:I mean you just described Stamets and Reno in Discovery, pretty much. lol at how Stamets just kinda got defaulted into being chief engineer when he was specifically the DASH drive specialist
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:lol at how Stamets just kinda got defaulted into being chief engineer when he was specifically the DASH drive specialist Kinda like how we’ve still never seen the actual Engineering deck/room on Discovery and that one lovely science lab set has just become the default “figuring things out in engineering” setting. Make Saru captain, give Stamets his proper science officer role, make Reno the chief engineer and build an actual engineering set. There, I just fixed four problems and made Discovery instantly better.
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Cancel Discovery is still the #1 option to make the show better.
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Voyager s1e13 Faces. A better show would have left Torres split into her human and Klingon halves for a couple of episodes. Maybe set up a conflict where some of the crew like one more than the other.
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May 26, 2020 19:42
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8one6 posted:Voyager s1e13 Faces. They merge them together at the end with the transporter but a crazed Neelix tackles Tuvok onto the transporter shouting "I need to be Tuvix again!"(I know this episode hadn't happened yet)
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8one6 posted:Voyager s1e13 Faces. And then the least liked one, angry at being shunned, kidnaps the other one and forces them back together. Kinda a reverse Tuvix. Then Torres would had to have dealt with the guilt of what she did to herself, never being able to really separate her feelings of being betrayed and being the betrayer.
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I'll probably remember him for playing the Yankees executive on Seinfeld more
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John Wick of Dogs posted:They merge them together at the end with the transporter but a crazed Neelix tackles Tuvok onto the transporter shouting "I need to be Tuvix again!"(I know this episode hadn't happened yet) All four of them end up merged but in a horrifying Brundlefly way. It begs for death but Janeway rolled an 18 that day and decides that it's a valid new lifeform, and destroying it to get their friends back would be an unconscionable act of murder. Later, Seven assimilates it during "Scorpion" and everyone agrees that it's better this way. Janeway insists Seven be de-assimilated against her will because she was originally a normal human, but Tuvannixa is a unique entity and they can't judge whether it's better off as a Borg or not.
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Voyager s1e15 Learning Curve There's a very good chance Tuvok ordering the Bajorian crewmember to take his earring off would light the internet on fire if the episode came out today.
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8one6 posted:Voyager s1e15 Learning Curve It made sense when Tuvok did it because he's a Vulcan and therefore an rear end in a top hat about regulations. It was bullshit when Riker did the exact same thing even though he let Worf walk around with a giant sash like he's the mayor of the Enterprise
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Civilized Fishbot posted:It made sense when Tuvok did it because he's a Vulcan and therefore an rear end in a top hat about regulations. It was bullshit when Riker did the exact same thing even though he let Worf walk around with a giant sash like he's the mayor of the Enterprise "I have this sash so I must be important" is a canonical assumption.
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Also, I refuse the baseball episode's premise that Worf is bad at baseball. He's entirely too much of an athlete with very good hand eye coordination.
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Sash! posted:Also, I refuse the baseball episode's premise that Worf is bad at baseball. He's entirely too much of an athlete with very good hand eye coordination. He was probably too scared of hitting the ball and firing it straight through Nog's head or something.
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On Qo'noS baseball is a full contact sport that involves a modified gin'tak spear. It's also the only planet in the alpha or beta quadrants where baseball isn't boring.
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Cross-franchise intramural game: Latchcomb!
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Zaroff posted:He was probably too scared of hitting the ball and firing it straight through Nog's head or something. Hours later Worf is still circling the bases, his hot tears having long ago given way to stony emptiness. Two security guards patiently flank the arch, waiting.
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Worf lost almost every physical confrontation he was involved with, unclear where this sporting prowess was demonstrated in the text
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Brawnfire posted:Hours later Worf is still circling the bases, his hot tears having long ago given way to stony emptiness. Two security guards patiently flank the arch, waiting. He's going for speed Alexander is left all alone, in his time of need oh but seriously I posted:Worf lost almost every physical confrontation he was involved with, unclear where this sporting prowess was demonstrated in the text
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