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AweStriker
Oct 6, 2014

Tau Wedel posted:


It's also interesting that it was Pewter specifically who analyzed the DNA from the cigarette, rather than the anonymous forensics lab that handled the blood at the warehouse. Perhaps I'm just being overly paranoid, but I can't help but notice that in the other branch Iris was also kidnapped and taken to the warehouse, and Pewter was responsible. Can we actually trust his analysis, here?

I believe we can, since in this timeline Renju is dead and in that timeline Renju asked him to do that.

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NeverHelm
Aug 9, 2017

Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.
There's also the fact that a second analysis would reveal if Pewter had lied. If So was confident that they didn't have valid evidence, he would not need to resort to blackmail to get off the hook.

Tau Wedel
Aug 3, 2007

I'm fine. Everything's fine. There is no reason to worry.
Both good points. I guess that also explains why So was down at the warehouse just now: he wanted to see if he should be worried about the investigation. It'll be interesting to see if Date and Mizuki can learn anything useful -- we're clearly missing something major about So's relation to the case. (And maybe Aiba can finish that story about the Sejima family along the way, that'd be nice.)

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


The problem I see is that So is probably too heavy to do the elevator trick with Renju’s body. I’m suspecting a chain of killings (Renju got Shoko because ???, Iris got Renju because of tumor problems, and now So tried to get Iris and Ota).

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

I'm just going to point out for a second that you shouldn't be expecting everything to be answered by the end of this branch. There will be a lot of unanswered questions left to go through.

This post also has the added benefit of freeing Mecca-Benghazi's post from post purgatory, where the post exists but can't be read and keeps showing up in my bookmarks list as unread.

NeverHelm
Aug 9, 2017

Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

I’m suspecting a chain of killings (Renju got Shoko because ???, Iris got Renju because of tumor problems, and now So tried to get Iris and Ota).
This doesn't quite fit the killer's MO, though. Why would all the victims have their eye gouged out, while they are still alive at that? It seems unlikely that three different people would go through with such a cruel ritual, or even be capable of it in the first place. It doesn't even make sense as a diversion, because it implies a highly sadistic killer - the kind that doesn't really need a specific motive to kill. Their lack of motive might end up incriminating them.

However, keep in mind that we are maybe halfway or so through the game. There's plenty more information out there to be found. And killers' mindsets are notoriously difficult to understand.

NeverHelm fucked around with this message at 19:36 on May 22, 2020

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


TheMcD posted:

This post also has the added benefit of freeing Mecca-Benghazi's post from post purgatory, where the post exists but can't be read and keeps showing up in my bookmarks list as unread.
:tipshat:

NeverHelm posted:

This doesn't quite fit the killer's MO, though. Why would all the victims have their eye gouged out, while they are still alive at that? It seems unlikely that three different people would go through with such a cruel ritual, or even be capable of it in the first place. It doesn't even make sense as a diversion, because it implies a highly sadistic killer - the kind that doesn't really need a specific motive to kill. Their lack of motive might end up incriminating them.

However, keep in mind that we are maybe halfway or so through the game. There's plenty more information out there to be found. And killers' mindsets are notoriously difficult to understand.
A copycat to throw people off the trail, if we assume that neither Iris nor So figured out it was Renju. Why Renju would do it though, I have no clue.

My main evidence for the chain killing like in a particular Agatha Christie novel is just Iris’ weight though. I guess it could be possible that So killed Shoko, maybe in a deal with the Kumakuras gone south? He’s definitely the eye gouging type :colbert:

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

New video!



It's time to take matters into our own hands.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

PORNO MAG

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Well, that happened.

NeverHelm
Aug 9, 2017

Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.
Aiba really took one for the team there. That bullet would have gone straight through his other eye and into his brain.

These action scenes always seem so out of place compared with the rest of the game, what with their over-the-top anime logic and PORNO MAGs. But hey, at least we got So in the end! He's also Date's dad, apparently. Doesn't seem like he's a good parent figure either. There are a lot of those in this game. At least Date and Hitomi are alright.

NeverHelm fucked around with this message at 17:26 on May 25, 2020

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

New video!



Things aren't looking good.

NeverHelm
Aug 9, 2017

Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.
This is my favourite part of the game, besides the true ending. Mizuki and Date's relationship feels very genuine and the voice acting really sells it. Also, I really like when VNs let you see another character's perspective for a bit.

Tau Wedel
Aug 3, 2007

I'm fine. Everything's fine. There is no reason to worry.

NeverHelm posted:

Mizuki and Date's relationship feels very genuine and the voice acting really sells it.

Agreed. The voice acting has been good throughout, but it really shines in these more emotional segments.

So Sejima being Date's father doesn't really explain anything yet, but it does introduce more possible reasons for his actions. I've mostly been assuming that So just wanted the police to stay away from his affairs, and that he didn't have any interest in Date beyond this. With a direct relationship between them, though, it's possible that some of So's actions are motivated by wanting to manipulate Date specifically. Perhaps that's why he went to the warehouse in the beginning of the other branch -- he expected Date to follow him there and wanted him to see Iris' corpse for some reason?

Also, we learned Boss' real name! "Shizue Kuranushi" -- I don't think we've heard either the given name or the surname before. Date specifically pointed out earlier that he doesn't know Boss' real name, and now it shows up when he's unconscious, so he still doesn't know. It feels like this will be significant. (Although it would be funny if there's no great secret and Boss just doesn't like her real name.)

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

New video!



It's time to Psync with Date. What will we find?

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

This is an amazing somnium, my second favorite.

Also, I like that it reuses the mechanic from our very first somnium.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Hwurmp posted:

you ain't seen nothing yet

it's this, this is the yet

:cry:

NeverHelm
Aug 9, 2017

Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.
Moments like these are worth every PORNO MAG in the world.

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

quote:

I wish that Mizuki grows up healthy and happy.

:smith:

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.


On the topic of that line, here's something I wanted to share after this update:

This is a Twitch clip from Mizuki's VA playing through the game and getting to that particular line.

Just give it a watch.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

New video!



We Psynced with Date. Did we manage to save him?

Also, I just completely ran out of backlog and haven't recorded anything since despite the fact we don't have any votes anymore and I could've just recorded all this time. So there might be a break for a bit or a looser schedule as I get back up to speed.

NeverHelm
Aug 9, 2017

Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.
If you look past Iris still being hospitalized, how Date's probably lost his faith in his superiors at HQ and the implication he will be brooding over not uncovering the full truth for the rest of his life, this is a pretty good ending. Better than our first one, at any rate.

biosterous
Feb 23, 2013




... :unsmith:

Tau Wedel
Aug 3, 2007

I'm fine. Everything's fine. There is no reason to worry.
Aw, that was a nice scene to end with. :unsmith:

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

New videos!




First, we'll take another look at Date's Somnium and unearth something very disturbing. Then, we'll take another look over our files and see what we've found since the last time.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

This somnium toes the line between funny and sad. Except Adorabbit, that's just plain creepy.

Also, the game might've let you proceed without eating the stew, but it will punish you by making ALL further actions in that somnium cost an extra 10 seconds. This way, you'd have to reach Date with at least 132 seconds left if you want to get through this somnium (and borderline impossible to leave with time to spare).

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

1234567890num posted:

Also, the game might've let you proceed without eating the stew, but it will punish you by making ALL further actions in that somnium cost an extra 10 seconds. This way, you'd have to reach Date with at least 132 seconds left if you want to get through this somnium (and borderline impossible to leave with time to spare).

Huh. I wonder if it also changes the timies that you get - you can tell in the video that I was visibly confused when looking at Adorabbit on the speaker, and that was because I could've sworn that the "Ugly" option didn't give me a 3x negative timie before, I thought it was only a 2x.

Polderjoch
Jun 27, 2019

May the sacred flame guide me... Or something like that.

TheMcD posted:

Huh. I wonder if it also changes the timies that you get - you can tell in the video that I was visibly confused when looking at Adorabbit on the speaker, and that was because I could've sworn that the "Ugly" option didn't give me a 3x negative timie before, I thought it was only a 2x.

It does. There are a lot of variable outcomes and timies, based off of things like which choices you made in previous selections, how much time you have remaining, and I believe some even have different outcomes depending on whether or not you used a timie on it or not. Trying to write comprehensive guides for this game is an absolute nightmare as a result.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Are they fixed based on your previous decision or are they just random?

Polderjoch
Jun 27, 2019

May the sacred flame guide me... Or something like that.

1234567890num posted:

Are they fixed based on your previous decision or are they just random?

As far as I know, all of the variable ones are based off your previous decisions, obviously bar the ones which give out different timies depending on how much time you have remaining. none are random.

Tau Wedel
Aug 3, 2007

I'm fine. Everything's fine. There is no reason to worry.
What happens if you call out to Renju or Shoko in the last scene of Date's Somnium? Is it just a game over with "Date never woke up, the end"?

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
drat Adorabbit you scary

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

New videos!



First, we take the other branch in Ota's Somnium. But that takes us like six minutes so...



...we'll also go and take a look at the stuff we missed in that Somnium.

AweStriker
Oct 6, 2014

52-X notes:

6:53 Yuri!!! on ICE references!

8:30 A Pandora's Box from Mars is the catalyst that begins Kamen Rider Build.

11:40 Kamen Rider Den-O's catchphrase.

16:53 Kamen Rider W's catchphrase.

17:25 No. No, he is not. The catchphrase is Kamen Rider Gaim's. It's. It's not good. I can't articulate why beyond pacing issues (since I didn't watch most of it), but it's bad.

I've heard one of the left side plates has different dialogue if you punch it, though, so maybe there's still something to catch up on!

Sinner Sandwich
Oct 13, 2012

AweStriker posted:

17:25 No. No, he is not. The catchphrase is Kamen Rider Gaim's. It's. It's not good. I can't articulate why beyond pacing issues (since I didn't watch most of it), but it's bad.


Actually Gaim rules. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

In retrospect, it should've been obvious to me that Ota was quoting Kamen Rider in his hero fantasy.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

New video!



So this branch around, we'll be focusing on the floral print knife. Let's see what we get out of Ota when we confront him on that.

NeverHelm
Aug 9, 2017

Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.
The first 8 minutes: No, Mayumi can't be the killer, it's impossible. Here's a detailed explanation of why that is.











The final 10 seconds: "I did it." -Mayumi Matsushita

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Fake out! She could be talking about anything at any warehouse. :colbert:

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Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


Nothing has happened in this branch to make it her instead of So right? It’s just a different perspective on the same event in the Somnium. So somehow she’s involved with So.

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