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Terrifying Effigies posted:It's a shame they let Trump buy it, the Old Post Office Building is pretty classy The only reason he hasn't put TRUMP at the top or down the length of the tower is because to my knowledge, the
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Trump, length and tower in the same sentence are making me uncomfortable
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# ? May 30, 2020 02:44 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Normally I'd agree with you, but it's the old post office building and an innocent casualty of Trump's incessant desire to buy things and brand them after himself dammit, I had forgotten that, yeah salt the earth on his golf courses
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# ? May 30, 2020 02:45 |
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This one's from Louisville. https://twitter.com/ChrisBishopL1C4/status/1266546753182056453 The real shitbags really aren't hiding it these last few days.
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# ? May 30, 2020 03:07 |
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https://twitter.com/JamesAGagliano/status/1266547580663709696?s=20
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# ? May 30, 2020 03:09 |
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https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1266473366225068032 UI Berniebucks go away end of July, right around when small businesses look set to implode. And the GOP National Convention is the end of August. Going to be a long hot summer.
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facialimpediment posted:This one's from Louisville. I. Uh. Look. I dont know if NBC has really held to journalistic integrity, and maybe there's a point to be had about what it means to place press organizations on a pedestal when everyone has a camera in your pocket. I get it. But now isn't the time for your loving anti media performance piece. The Louisville Police do not need enemies. That said, I'm a little more scared when this happens in NYC.
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# ? May 30, 2020 03:26 |
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Someone say NYC? https://twitter.com/jasonlemon/status/1266529475757510656?s=21
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# ? May 30, 2020 03:32 |
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So cmpd has 4 cars that i saw with lights running gaurding the entrance to a shopping center that has a target in it and I think theyre definately taking the wrong lessons from...everything
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hobbesmaster posted:Question for joat mon: how much does the precise cause of death matter to charge here? ie, whether he died because he was choked by the cop or had a panic attack then heart attack due to excessive force by the cop or what. Bored As gently caress posted:Can joat mon or a lawyer explain why the exact "cause of death" matters in terms of culpability or punishment? Yeah, okay, he had underlying conditions, and that, combined with the combination of what the officer did, killed him. Why does it matter that there were no strangulation marks or whatever? Here are what a jury is going to have to find beyond a reasonable doubt to find somebody guilty of murder 3 in MN. quote:First, the death of xxxx must be proven. Causation is harder than hearsay to explain. Civil law (lawsuits for money) has a kind of causation called res ipsa locuitur. It means 'the thing speaks for itself' and basically relieves a plaintiff of actually proving causation - you just have to show that a bad thing happened in a place where the defendant was in control. It's sort of a legal conclusion of 'well, who else's fault could it be?' Res ipsa locuitur does not apply in criminal cases. and for good reasons. 'But for' causation is slightly more rigorous - it's the kind of causation most non lawyers think of. Would Floyd have died but for getting arrested? If the answer is no you have causation. It's easy to string a line of but fors to move causation back a long way. Proximate cause basically says you can't make that string of causation too long- The cause must be proximate/close to the effect. "Gunshot #1 resulted in avulsion of the left atrium from the rest of the heart and a 4 cm long tear in the aorta" would nail all three levels of causation as to the act that killed someone. "He died in police custody but we don't know how or why" might get you res ipsa and but for cause, but you've making a much bigger ask for a jury to give you proximate cause - certainly more than a gunshot or a cause of death that can be proximately connected to an action that occurred. So no, exact mechanism of death doesn't matter. What matters is how causally proximate a provable action by a defendant is to a victim's death. Nystral posted:Yeah how does this work given that the officer was armed, had his gun drawn at one point per the report and the guy died. There was a case in WI from 2018 where a armed robber holding up a burger joint had someone die of a heart attack getting hit with murder charges. What placed felony murder in play in the WI case was not that somebody had a gun but that somebody was doing a particular kind of felony that is particularly likely to result in dead people, and someone did in fact die. The interesting felony murder thought experiment in this situation would be to charge the cop who killed Floyd with felony murder of the people who died as a result of the ensuing riots.
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Terrifying Effigies posted:https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1266473366225068032 "Senate Republicans have declared the [$3T House] bill to be "dead on arrival." Mitch McConnell (R-Turtle) said on Friday that the next potential relief bill will be the final coronavirus stimulus legislation."
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# ? May 30, 2020 04:32 |
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Whoa CNN has protestors at the White House getting froggy with the secret service
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Define froggy
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# ? May 30, 2020 04:42 |
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The go.cnn feed doesnt have that. It's some interview with Kobuchar(sp)
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Nonconsensual but desired, shoes on pants off.
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ded posted:The go.cnn feed doesnt have that. It's some interview with Kobuchar(sp) Lol interviewing the woman who let this dude off this first time he did this poo poo.
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Immanentized posted:Whoa CNN has protestors at the White House getting froggy with the secret service protestors gonna draxx them sklounst?
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ded posted:The go.cnn feed doesnt have that. It's some interview with Kobuchar(sp) https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html Same problem with Kloberella on the screen, but they're rotating between cities and occasionally stop on dc.
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# ? May 30, 2020 04:51 |
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This stream has DC on the bottom right. https://www.twitch.tv/inteldoge edit : and it ended right as I posted it
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Another one - https://www.facebook.com/fox46charlotte/videos/180692256632332/?v=180692256632332 *edit* Another - https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1PlJQmMjPPnJE Arven fucked around with this message at 05:26 on May 30, 2020 |
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iwentdoodie posted:Lol interviewing the woman who let this dude off this first time he did this poo poo. I can't bear to watch but I'm going to guess they don't ask her about that at all?
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# ? May 30, 2020 05:20 |
https://twitter.com/erikstrobl/status/1266552025740906496?s=21 This was powerful.
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Best Friends posted:I can't bear to watch but I'm going to guess they don't ask her about that at all? He didnt ask, he set her up with a vague statement and she pushed it off to her successor and grand jury and "well, I couldn't be responsible, I was a senator by the time all the facts came out"
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# ? May 30, 2020 05:27 |
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In what can only be called a good move done too late, an E-4B seems to be on its way toward Minneapolis: https://tar1090.adsbexchange.com/?icao=adfeb4 EDIT: Never mind - it just became trackable as it was coming into Omaha airspace to land at Offutt.
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dont worry its all over https://twitter.com/cmarinucci/status/1266577471941427206
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BIG HEADLINE posted:In what can only be called a good move done too late, an E-4B seems to be on its way toward Minneapolis: https://tar1090.adsbexchange.com/?icao=adfeb4 How would that help anything even if it headed to Minnesota?
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Hot Karl Marx posted:dont worry its all over Aaaaaaaaaaand there's my crack-ping.
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# ? May 30, 2020 05:40 |
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Hot Karl Marx posted:dont worry its all over The moment when the healing began. This whole thing is starting to take on a weird Tunisia in late 2010 role. George Floyd’s death may be the catalyst for something significant. I dunno whether that significant thing is going to be bad or good.
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Midjack posted:How would that help anything even if it headed to Minnesota? E-4Bs aren't *just* doomsday planes, they're also mobile FEMA command centers.
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Whether long term this is good or bad, what is going on right now is necessary. I’ve cheered when other countries have started fighting back. I’m cheering now. One of the best things I’ve noticed about all of this is how incredibly diverse it is. Black people aren’t fighting by themselves in any of the cities where it’s happening. If you can’t look at that fact and see progress than I don’t know what progress is. But maybe I just don’t remember how previous protests and riots went and I’m just desperate for a silver lining.
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Diarrhea Elemental posted:Aaaaaaaaaaand there's my crack-ping. Don’t take it too hard, routine poo poo like that is copy pasted and there’s a decent chance the president didn’t even see it.
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# ? May 30, 2020 06:00 |
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https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1266593307716726790?s=19 Did protests at the White House during Nixon get like this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So_BMLD_D-4 DC @ whitehouse about 10 min ago they chased off a fox news team
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# ? May 30, 2020 06:10 |
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African-American Music Appreciation Month doesn't have the same ring to it as Infrastructure Week but it's a heckuva upgrade
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https://twitter.com/neIIychillin/status/1266583265441349634?s=19 "Deescalate on his dick"
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M_Gargantua posted:https://twitter.com/neIIychillin/status/1266583265441349634?s=19 New Thread Title
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Hekk posted:New Thread Title june thread title
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# ? May 30, 2020 06:32 |
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I think it's safe to say that this has been the Meltdowningest May in the history of Meltdown Mays. And we still have two days left
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M_Gargantua posted:https://twitter.com/neIIychillin/status/1266583265441349634?s=19 This is great
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EBB posted:june thread title
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