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Platystemon posted:I was expecting “Hey, you. You’re finally awake.”
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So I work at Amazon and I see all sorts of stupid poo poo passing through my hands 40 hours a week. Today I found one that took the cake. The fact that this book exists might as well be an OSHA violation. The tagline might as well say "burn down your house when you make a custom battery for little Timmy's RC car."
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Cat Hatter posted:Also that NASA bothers to train people to operate their vehicles before letting a teenager drive one. Also, touch screens in any moving platform or vehicle are very, very, poor choice for primary control mechanisms because they lack almost all tactile feedback and poorly support muscle memory -bound intuitive reactions. There is a reason why airplanes have differently shaped knobs on all control sticks.
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Alkydere posted:So I work at Amazon and I see all sorts of stupid poo poo passing through my hands 40 hours a week. Today I found one that took the cake. Is working there really as awful as the various articles about amazon pickers make it out to be? It could be a thread unto itself.
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anonumos posted:That's a brilliant machine! Google Menzi Muck for more if you wan to.
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wesleywillis posted:Is working there really as awful as the various articles about amazon pickers make it out to be? Yyyyeeees and Nnnnnooo? It depends on where you work. I work in SAT2 which is one of the better buildings in many ways (management gives half a poo poo and treats you like a person) but there's other sites you hear rumors about. The jobs are basically all RSI inducing shitshows since you basically do the same thing over and over and over again unless you can get a role that's a specialist job or computer touching. I really don't know about Stow/Pick very much because those involve the RSP (Robotic Storage Pen: our moving inventory on giant murder-roombas that will break your ankle if they run into you: there's a reason going onto the bot floor without training/permission and a radio harness to tell the bots to slow down near you is an INSTANT TERMINATION). For example there's people literally called "inductors" who's job is to take stuff off of one conveyor belt and put it on another conveyor belt system. When you're doing that [many lots]* times an hour and you can get heavy rear end poo poo now and then (drinks, brake disks, weighted blankets) it's a good way to hurt your arm. But yeah I'm a Packer. I don't put your essential dildos in storage or take them out, I put them in the box or envelope to send to you. The questions I'll be best for answering are basically on the outbound (packing and outbound dock) side. Also I will note Amazon jobs are GREAT at losing weight**. Even managers don't get to sit down on the floor and the facilities are massive. Even the IT guys walk several kilometers every shift, going up and down stairs, responding to trouble tickets. *Amazon does not like us talking about rates so I'm gonna dodge and weave around any questions involving those the best I can. **Including one guy I know who nearly worked himself to death by busting his rear end so hard he lost 80 pounds in under a month.  For reference he's better now and has a nice chill job and even if he didn't Safety does not let managers assign him to him do the job that hosed him up.
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Alkydere posted:So I work at Amazon and I see all sorts of stupid poo poo passing through my hands 40 hours a week. Today I found one that took the cake. At least they are buying a book to learn and not just solder poo poo together. (speaking as someone with a LOT of 18650s - and a custom spot welder)
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Cartoon Man posted:
Sound advice. I wish I would have listened to it.
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Alkydere posted:Yyyyeeees and Nnnnnooo? It depends on where you work. I work in SAT2 which is one of the better buildings in many ways (management gives half a poo poo and treats you like a person) but there's other sites you hear rumors about. I have a friend who worked as a picker years ago. The facility he was in was several buildings stitched together so there weren't any easy routes from one end to another. It was all one soul killing labyrinth and missing a single beat hurt your pick rate and thus your worth. Then there were the slow times when the pick orders were obviously being skewed so you never had idle time. Then there was the time he found the bin for the triple clit flicker and that's a product name that lives in our hearts to this day.
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mds2 posted:Sound advice. Yes, it is.
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Explosionface posted:Then there was the time he found the bin for the triple clit flicker and that's a product name that lives in our hearts to this day. Obvious question - is this like a wheel of three flickers that spins rapidly for concentrated triple flick action, or is it a setup of three discrete flickers for multi-person use?
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starkebn posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ5HZfIN3iY 1) this is by far the coolest excavator I’ve ever seen. Fully articulated wheels, telescoping arm, rotating bucket. Absolutely cool 2) the back of it has serious Transformers face going on
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:1) this is by far the coolest excavator I’ve ever seen. Fully articulated wheels, telescoping arm, rotating bucket. Absolutely cool Legitimately excited that we're starting to see mechs in 2020.
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Explosionface posted:I have a friend who worked as a picker years ago. The facility he was in was several buildings stitched together so there weren't any easy routes from one end to another. It was all one soul killing labyrinth and missing a single beat hurt your pick rate and thus your worth. Then there were the slow times when the pick orders were obviously being skewed so you never had idle time. I worked pick for six months. It's boring, a ton of walking, but otherwise I never had a problem keeping up with my quota and usually overshot it. The job would be a lot better if you could take your phone and headphones in. Seriously, it's not a terrible job. If you're a fatty that doesn't want to change, maybe take a job that doesn't have you walking 10+ miles a day. Or take it and lose the weight, it's paid cardio. If you can't hack pick, there's pack and pack-out (loading bins with product) that you can request transferring to, but I hate sitting in the same place for long periods of time. My only gripe is breaks were short if you had to walk from the far corners of the warehouse. You lose a cigarette of time walking from/to your last pick location. They could always pay better too.
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Warmachine posted:There's just not enough grift in trains, especially after the U.S. auto industry spent decades demonizing the things. Sadly the only place for trains left in the U.S. is C-SPAM. There's a shitload of rail in the US, it's just a rail network that's optimized for moving cargo instead of people. In Europe it's the other way around, and a far higher proprotion of cargo moves by truck. Passenger rail and cargo don't play well on the same set of tracks.
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Phanatic posted:Passenger rail and cargo don't play well on the same set of tracks. Why?
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Bad Munki posted:Why? I’m going to assume different desired weight/speed/frequency operating capacity.
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Riding Amtrak a while back, a conductor told me that passenger trains lease rail time from the cargo movers who own the rails, so if there's a conflict the cargo trains always get priority.
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Bad Munki posted:Why? My guess would be that passenger rail is more time sensitive and the trains are shorter so they run faster. Because you can't have two trains on the same section of track at the same time (where a 'section' can be tens of kilometers long), long, slow moving trains really gently caress up the tempo of section management for faster moving passenger networks.
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Bad Munki posted:Why? Cargo trains move slowly. You can't exactly have a 100mph passenger train when you're being held up by a freight train going 40mph.
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what if there were trains that could run on top of other trains like on the front and back of every train there would be a ramp with rails on it and the rails would continue along the top of the train so if another train came up behind it it could just keep going and run right over the first train and everybody would be happy somebody get me elon musk!
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McSpanky posted:Riding Amtrak a while back, a conductor told me that passenger trains lease rail time from the cargo movers who own the rails, so if there's a conflict the cargo trains always get priority. The one time I took Amtrak we had this issue and were 4+ hours late going from Chicago to St. Louis waiting for cargo trains, which is about a 4 hour car ride. But I had no car, too young to rent at the time, and it was cheaper than a plane ticket. Riding the train was a neat experience, and I still think it could be fun to do a long trip out west sometime as long as you had a sleeper car, but as far as doing it as a legitimate travel option it's just not worth it if timeliness is an issue.
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Mozi posted:what if there were trains that could run on top of other trains How about if people just rode in intermodal freight containers instead? That way, passenger service and freight service are identical and have the same high priority.
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Mozi posted:what if there were trains that could run on top of other trains Nothing like trainchat to intensify the amount of Dahir Insaating in the thread.
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What if the train cars were all independently powered and could go over flat ground, not relying on rails, and each just went at their own pace from origin to destination?
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ah - trains as a service. a whole new paradigm...
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https://i.imgur.com/bkt6tTd.gifv Guessing he’s about to get a permaban from the range.
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Cojawfee posted:Cargo trains move slowly. You can't exactly have a 100mph passenger train when you're being held up by a freight train going 40mph. Anecdotally speaking from friends that have taken cross country trains, the open country parts are actually pretty smooth, the issue is all the single track lines going into the cities. It'll take hours to get into and out of a terminal in St Paul because you're stuck behind all the freight loading and unloading
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TheAlmightyFrog posted:The one time I took Amtrak we had this issue and were 4+ hours late going from Chicago to St. Louis waiting for cargo trains, which is about a 4 hour car ride. But I had no car, too young to rent at the time, and it was cheaper than a plane ticket. Riding the train was a neat experience, and I still think it could be fun to do a long trip out west sometime as long as you had a sleeper car, but as far as doing it as a legitimate travel option it's just not worth it if timeliness is an issue. Uthor posted:What if the train cars were all independently powered and could go over flat ground, not relying on rails, and each just went at their own pace from origin to destination? Incredible  energy. Just because you guys haven't figured it out, doesn't mean quality passenger rail is impossible.
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The amount of American money invested on no trains is incredible
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Goodpancakes posted:The amount of American money invested on no trains is incredible Building highways involved more make-work jobs during the new deal than laying rail
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Freight trains take a lot longer to stop than passenger trains, too. In addition rail for high-speed trains has to be built to a much higher, and expensive, set of standards than freight rail. Welded rail segments, concrete ties, tighter tolerances all around. You can't just put a high-speed passenger train on a rail line that was built to carry freight unless you're willing do do away with the whole "high-speed" part of things. Goodpancakes posted:The amount of American money invested on no trains is incredible Again, this is nonsense. There is a shitload of rail in the US and a shitload of stuff travels vast distances on it. Most of that stuff is freight. That doesn't mean "no trains." In terms of freight rail, Europe is absolutely backwards compared to the US. That two different societies optimized on two different aspects of rail doesn't mean that only one of those societies has rail. https://www.freightwaves.com/news/why-is-europe-so-absurdly-backward-compared-to-the-u-s-in-rail-freight-transport Speaking of backwards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btr1wsEwTkE (NB: He is not actually crushed.) Phanatic fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jun 3, 2020 |
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it's easier for tax payers to see the bullet trains when they go slow.
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Phanatic posted:https://www.freightwaves.com/news/why-is-europe-so-absurdly-backward-compared-to-the-u-s-in-rail-freight-transport Nothing like being stuck at a rail crossing when one of those 4 mile long trains rolls through https://i.imgur.com/uHpcybx.mp4
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Phanatic posted:In addition rail for high-speed trains has to be built to a much higher, and expensive, set of standards than freight rail. Welded rail segments, concrete ties, tighter tolerances all around. You can't just put a high-speed passenger train on a rail line that was built to carry freight unless you're willing do do away with the whole "high-speed" part of things. Yeah, the biggest problem is that passenger rail needs its own track. And you've got to have enough destinations/money in the areas to make that level of infrastructure investment worth it. Like, the Acela corridor for Amtrak is basically the perfect position. You've got DC -> Baltimore -> Philadelphia -> New York -> Boston, all major population centers, all in a row so it's a straight-shot end-to-end, and all close enough that it's only 7 hours end-to-end for a high-speed train. That's not something you can really find anywhere else in the country. Like, try to figure out the most efficient way to set up high speed rail that would service the US Midwest... 
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LanceHunter posted:Yeah, the biggest problem is that passenger rail needs its own track. And you've got to have enough destinations/money in the areas to make that level of infrastructure investment worth it. Like, the Acela corridor for Amtrak is basically the perfect position. You've got DC -> Baltimore -> Philadelphia -> New York -> Boston, all major population centers, all in a row so it's a straight-shot end-to-end, and all close enough that it's only 7 hours end-to-end for a high-speed train. That's not something you can really find anywhere else in the country. Like, try to figure out the most efficient way to set up high speed rail that would service the US Midwest... If only there were some way to balance expenses and not have to worry about profits. Maybe if there were a program we could all pay into with taxes. Like, something we socially agree on. Maybe we could even open this transportation up for general public use. 
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Explosionface posted:I have a friend who worked as a picker years ago. The facility he was in was several buildings stitched together so there weren't any easy routes from one end to another. It was all one soul killing labyrinth and missing a single beat hurt your pick rate and thus your worth. Then there were the slow times when the pick orders were obviously being skewed so you never had idle time. Oh, you're talking about non-RSP picking where it's dozens of people walking up and down aisles of stuff. Yeah, my facility is an AR sort facility (Amazon Robotics). Yeah non AR-Sort facilities are either old buildings made before Amazon had ALL the money or they're dealing with specialty/large items. I never want to work in an non-AR-Sort facility. Seriously, I'm a Learning Ambassador (fancy way to say I train new people) and part of the training I got involved watching a lady train people for non-AR-Sort Picking and by the end of the video the entire room was curled up into their chairs going "NO! NO! WHYYYYY!?" like we were watching a horror movie. CRUSTY MINGE posted:I worked pick for six months. It's boring, a ton of walking, but otherwise I never had a problem keeping up with my quota and usually overshot it. The job would be a lot better if you could take your phone and headphones in. Yeah the quotas are not nearly the nightmare people think they are once you get used to them. But there's so much walking. So. Much. Walking. The best thing you can ever do for yourself if you get a job at Amazon is get yourself a new pair of shoes. After that, if you're hired and waiting for a shift at least go for a walk for a few miles every day you can.
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Mozi posted:what if there were trains that could run on top of other trains This was either in some old Disney or Loony Toons "World of the Future!" thing, or possibly just something my 8 year old self also thought up
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d3lness posted:If only there were some way to balance expenses and not have to worry about profits. Not worrying about profit doesn't mean not worrying about opportunity costs. Even Amtrak, which is pretty much the optimum situation for passenger rail, operates at a loss. To the extent that we "socially agree," we socially agree that rail travel sucks. Phanatic fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jun 3, 2020 |
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