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forkboy84 posted:lol could've been PM right now stupid loving country remember when the FT were writing increasingly hysterical articles about NO SERIOUSLY START MAKING MAJOR CONCESSIONS OR THERE'S GOING TO BE A loving PROBLEM FOR US and the tories ignored the minder class for once I keep thinking about that stalin/wells interview
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forkboy84 posted:lol could've been PM right now stupid loving country its absolutely the case that maybe the biggest reason the press and a lot of british public hate him with such ferocity is because he cares about minorities and people all around the world as much as white englanders
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Jeremy Corbyn's dream vacation is a biking trip in the Czech Republic where he'd create a photo album of manhole covers inbetween bean-fueled sex/political discussion marathons with his black lover. This completely disqualifies him from becoming prime minister.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Jeremy Corbyn's dream vacation is a biking trip in the Czech Republic where he'd create a photo album of manhole covers inbetween bean-fueled sex/political discussion marathons with his black lover. This completely disqualifies him from becoming prime minister. lol remember when the mail tried to recover from "Jeremy Corbyn dated someone outside his race" with "AND THEN HE WORKED FOR THE KGB, THAT'S THE REAL STORY" citing a source who was a loving Live Aid truther and claiming to be a spy from a country that didn't exist at the time
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so is the UK entering the cool zone or what, i hear a lot from paris and not much from your lumpy bog island.
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our cops only crack skulls in a big way when the far right are rallying to protect them peoples economic situation isn't completely hosed here like the US because they've mostly been covering for businesses not working with the furlough scheme. i haven't worked in like 2 months now and have been on 80% of my salary in that time
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:so is the UK entering the cool zone or what, i hear a lot from paris and not much from your lumpy bog island. the UK is a pretty socially compliant country so we all p much did what we should until the government began maliciously undermining their own forced measures. People are still nervy as hell though, so unless you're in london or the west midlands (or medical or transport jobs) it's hard to understand quite how badly we've given ourselves the plague. The furlough scheme jose mentioned is now ending, and "quarantine" now means "get a bus to tesco and don't tell anyone or take precautions" so over the next two months you should expect to see a catastrophic, undeniable and deliberate wave of deaths. When this begins people will revert back to the measures they followed early on - without furlough support this will likely cause an economic wipeout along the lines of what we saw in the US earlier in the year. The tories might want that sharp shock, because it means Brexit will be a relative non-issue when the transition ends (no economy to kill), but that's when you'll see Cool Zone antics begin. There were protests for George Floyd today but they were left be. Also it's illegal to have sex because an insane tradcath shithead is a major government player.
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Even the worst cops in the UK are not straight up executing black people in the street like the US UK police also aren't straining at the leash like US cops are, who are so massively overfunded and protected from basically any repercussion or oversight It helps that austerity defunded the police over here so they lack a lot of the resources or will to really gently caress with the population (watch me eat those loving words lol)
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Jun 3, 2020 21:11
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MikeCrotch posted:Even the worst cops in the UK are not straight up executing black people in the street like the US eh, they spent the entirety of the last two general elections screaming that they'd lose any major riot or unrest, they definitely don't have the numbers
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Jun 3, 2020 21:14
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there were protests in a few cities today. police don't really have guns here so there's a lot fewer traffic stop deaths but there HAVE been a few and a distinct lack of accountability for them.
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Jun 3, 2020 21:16
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Protests like these: https://twitter.com/TobiRachel_/status/1268180600973860865
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MikeCrotch posted:Even the worst cops in the UK are not straight up executing black people in the street like the US Mark Duggan, Sheku Bayoh... If UK police all carried guns, we'd see a similar rate of murders
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Obliterati posted:Mark Duggan, Sheku Bayoh... De Costa, Smiley Culture, Burrell, De Menzies... Not all UK cops have guns but when the ones who do get called out someone is leaving in a hearse
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Crane Fist posted:De Costa, Smiley Culture, Burrell, De Menzies... And when they don't, as in the case of Bayoh, they simply beat him to death. Diagram of injuries: 
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Bust Rodd posted:yeah as an American I was always very jealous that the worst thing anyone could say about Corbyn was that he was an anti-Semite, something that seemed demonstrably false even just from watching the regular news. They said the same thing about Sanders in the US, and he is Jewish!
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gonadic io posted:Protests like these: https://twitter.com/TobiRachel_/status/1268180600973860865 boyega owns bones
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police violence genuinely is less of an issue in britain than in the US. it is an issue, of course, as it is everywhere, but the americans are completely beyond the pale with it
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Stephen Lawrence's murder led to the Met being called 'institutionally racist'; not because they were directly responsible, but because they wilfully obstructed any possible means of bringing his killers to justice. Because they were (are) rotten, and racist. It also gave us the below front page of the Daily Mail, of all papers: 
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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gh0stpinballa posted:that maddie mcann story is such a transparent psyop and MI5's decline has been a sight to behold mi5 have not once caught a spy, were run by the USSR for a substantial period, and missed that members of the queens staff were very open communists. They quietly shuffled away after a confrontation when answered "Yes, I'm a communist" by a man who remained in gainful employment picking the queen's art. Their crowning glory was arresting a bunch of iranians trying to learn about nuclear physics, then getting humiliated upon discovering that the foreign office were fully away that exchange students did actually study the sciences sometimes. They're a myth invented by the daily mail and john le carre and their real job is loving up coverups when actual spooks from Russia or the US murder people, to the point of police telling them to gently caress off and writing articles about what useless and transparent shitheads they are. I rarely find Adam Curtis to side with useful/verifiable over interesting but Bugger is one hell of a takedown
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He died peacefully in a locked holdall in a bathtub and that's all we can say he fell out of a helicopter that exploded and that's all we can say he leant too far out of a window and landed impaled on a spike several feet away and that's all we can say and there's nothing you can do to contradict that honestly, their work neutralising the graun was probably the only work they've ever done
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Spangly A posted:
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spincube posted:Stephen Lawrence's murder led to the Met being called 'institutionally racist'; not because they were directly responsible, but because they wilfully obstructed any possible means of bringing his killers to justice. Because they were (are) rotten, and racist. Reminder that the sole reason Dacre was as good as he was on Stephen Lawrence is that Lawrence's dad had been employed to paint his house so there was a personal connection. The only reason there was any justice for the Lawrence family is a chance encounter with a newspaper Editor who generally did his best to isolate himself from the plebs.
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Jacob Rees Mogg has been successful in his attempt to bring MPs back to parliament. Johnson is falling apart and revealing himself to be an idiot at every PMQ. The idea is that if they could get MPs to back him up and start braying like donkeys they might look better. It has backfired, Alok Sharma appeared ill while giving a speech and is now being tested for Covid. Here he is, wiping sweat away and appearing flustered. Social distancing is impossible in Westminster because it has so many chokepoints. Phil here goes into more detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU-g099EKQ8 I haven't linked any of Phil's videos before and I have not seen anyone else do it. He uploads daily, sometimes more than once. He is concise, to the point and understands the system. His channel is A Different Bias. He is well worth a watch.
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don't worry they gave his seat a bit of a wipe so it's all safe now, everyone can keep coming in to work until the results come back in a few days and it will all be fine https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1268482288372899841?s=20
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The UK has a very violent police force that kills poo poo loads of PoCs and always has. Just they beat them to death in custody instead. It's just that A) America doesn't have cops it has death squads so by comparison any place looks good B) in the UK we absolutely do not talk about anything that might upset the proles Therefore most people in the UK have never heard ANY kind of discussion on racism in the UK and all white people think we're basically fine. Ofc actually we're the smouldering remains of a white supremacist empire and just as racist as the Americans but only PoC people know that and we won't let them on telly if they talk about it
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lmao https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1268515402780413952?s=20
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Is it going to get revealed that Boris didn't have it before and actually has it for real this time???
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if Boris had it before, he'd be immune, so who the gently caress knows what's going on
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Reality Protester posted:if Boris had it before, he'd be immune, so who the gently caress knows what's going on It's not clear at all that having it before makes you immune
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V. Illych L. posted:boyega owns bones Someone pointed out to me that his character arc in SW is literally "Fascist cop who quits to join the resistance" so it's still on brand!
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MikeCrotch posted:It's not clear at all that having it before makes you immune yeah it does. the studies where it didn't were basically misfires on viral parts or it never cleared in the first place
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Malcolm XML posted:yeah it does. the studies where it didn't were basically misfires on viral parts or it never cleared in the first place You're misinterpreting the data. We know it clears from your system but we don't know what the immunity is like.
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Given there doesn't appear to have been a single confirmed reinfection anywhere in the world as of now it seems fair to assume there's short to mid term immunity as with other Coronaviruses
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Confirmation would require a government who can't get the lockdown right but does test properly. We're probably not knowing if the vaccine grants prolonged immunity until it's already rolling out.
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We'll know when the second wave hits in the fall/winter. Then we'll also hopefully have a lot of trials ready to go for therapeutics and other things, because the ones that are running now are fighting over subjects. One small downside of having flattened the curve I suppose.
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spankmeister posted:We'll know when the second wave hits in the fall/winter. Then we'll also hopefully have a lot of trials ready to go for therapeutics and other things, because the ones that are running now are fighting over subjects. One small downside of having flattened the curve I suppose.
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