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Capt.Whorebags posted:The $25k renobux isn’t for poor strugglers who have managed to scrape together at least $150k (or borrow) on low incomes. And apparently a bunch of experts have come out saying it’ll do just enough to drive prices up but not enough to meaningfully improve the economy.
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hooman posted:Cool cool co-cool cool cool. i'll attend via Zoom if you take your phone there with you
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gay picnic defence posted:And apparently a bunch of experts have come out saying it’ll do just enough to drive prices up but not enough to meaningfully improve the economy. The amount of money allocated for the scheme rounds to 0.0% of the Australian economy.
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teacup posted:I really don’t think having a major protest in Melbourne this weekend while there are still clusters popping off is very responsible. I support the cause but I really don’t know what they are thinking having it on now. Protests are not for people that value their own convenience and it is well accepted that it comes with some risk. This is not to say Covid is not a big problem, but some people feel the brutality of our modern knight class is something worth that risk and you generally can't schedule the upswell in community feels like we have right now (unless you are Murdoch et al). Besides, if it is kept peaceful (ie the police don't amp it up) the (even somewhat already low) covid risk can really be further reduced by wearing masks and trying to keep it somewhat spread out.
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Electric Wrigglies posted:Protests are not for people that value their own convenience and it is well accepted that it comes with some risk. This is not to say Covid is not a big problem, but some people feel the brutality of our modern knight class is something worth that risk and you generally can't schedule the upswell in community feels like we have right now (unless you are Murdoch et al). It won’t be spread out and I doubt masks will be widespread but I’d love to be proven wrong. And it is sad I have to remind anyone it’s not the people attending the protest that will suffer from the spread. It’s the older and vulnerable in the community.
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love to blame people protesting against police brutality for killing nan
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Solemn Sloth posted:love to blame people protesting against police brutality for killing nan everyone pities you
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So why does the building industry need stimulus, is it because of all the people and businesses that would normally use their services that lost their jobs/folded, so rather than help everyone out they're just helping one part of the economy? What kind of renovations could you get for the minimum spend of $150k?
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Buttcoin purse posted:What kind of renovations could you get for the minimum spend of $150k? A new storey, multiple new rooms, serious structural stuff. Has to be a part of the main building since quote:Homebuilder grants cannot be for used for additions to the property that are not connected to the principle place of residence, such as swimming pools, tennis courts, outdoor spas and saunas, nor detached structures such as sheds, garages or granny flats.
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bobvonunheil posted:Bold the whole thing etc And still it's so loving hard to explain this to middle-to-upper class straight white males whose only response is "Well, every interaction I've had with the police has been very positive." They're same sort of loving people who get up in arms over ACAB, of all loving things, because  in the same week as an Aboriginal kid having his face smashed into the concrete by a cop.Not to even start on the horrors going on in the US. But, hey, wouldn't want to be mean to the cops now. Senor Tron posted:Relevant to the discussion in this thread today: And this is exactly what I mean when I say that "deaths in custody" is just an euphemism for "tortured to death by cops".
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Not to even start on the horrors going on in the US. gently caress it, you all can have one. As a treat. https://twitter.com/jusalotofpain/status/1267638427723296768
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Buttcoin purse posted:So why does the building industry need stimulus, is it because of all the people and businesses that would normally use their services that lost their jobs/folded, so rather than help everyone out they're just helping one part of the economy? I've already seen adverts like 'Kids moving out? Why not downsize to a new house from [building company]?' It's not just renovations, remember. I figure it will be stuff like an expanded family room, a new patio/outdoor area, completely new kitchen and bathrooms throughout the entire house, with a voice activated toilet and bidet that cleans your anus to the tune of Claire de Lune. But they've made it very clear that no swimming pools or tennis courts are allowed. Even my own dad, who is genuine prime boomer, born the year WW2 ended, voted Liberal all his life thinks it's a terrible loving idea and wonders who could possibly benefit from it.
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JBP posted:The cops put me in the back of the van with an indigenous guy and drove us over speed bumps really fast to gently caress with us. He was a chill dude Perth cops are the same as all cops. hosed up shitheads. They wouldn't let me read the charge documents and read them to me for sport, it was loving ridiculous. All because I told a 19 odd year old kid to go gently caress himself for not caring that a friend was choke slammed thirty seconds prior. What did they even charge you with?
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Driving under the influence of socialist leanings
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hooman posted:What did they even charge you with? They tried to do me for disobeying a move on order lol
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hooman posted:What did they even charge you with? Posting with our a permit.
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I seen on FB (I know, I know) someone post a suggestion that this is the time to go nuts doing all those national disability scheme changes to houses that are huge money but hard to fund normally. I bet a lot of the suggested changes to make disabled peoples lives significantly better (and long term cheaper to care for) are pretty much "shovel ready" in that they have known what exactly to do but without the money to do it for decades.
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Consumer Confidence really takes me back to a simpler time
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Buttcoin purse posted:So why does the building industry need stimulus, is it because of all the people and businesses that would normally use their services that lost their jobs/folded, so rather than help everyone out they're just helping one part of the economy? The building industry has seen a 50% decrease in planned new home construction and this year's tally of new homes has been revised down from about 150k to 100k. A new skyscraper in the Docklands just got its approval rushed through to help provide jobs but there is a need to provide some future surety for the workers there, just that the reno part is completely poo poo.
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The renovations part is a really dumb afterthought for a variety of reasons, but people are giving it too much time in the press/socials. It really doesn't matter, almost no one will take it up, and even those that do it will be a rounding error in a spreadsheet at worst. The actual new home incentive is good. There's a shortage, and we need homes. Also, 1 in 25 people is directly employed in construction, its not a small market. They were estimating nationally going from 160k new homes in FY19/20 to less than 100k in FY20/21 At 160k new homes, we still don't meet demand, so it needed something.
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Jun 4, 2020 23:24
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An open letter to Australia about police and race and the whole drat thing: https://medium.com/@daniel.ed.morrison/an-open-letter-to-australia-about-police-and-race-and-the-whole-drat-thing-29b6830efe59
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Electric Wrigglies posted:I seen on FB (I know, I know) someone post a suggestion that this is the time to go nuts doing all those national disability scheme changes to houses that are huge money but hard to fund normally. I bet a lot of the suggested changes to make disabled peoples lives significantly better (and long term cheaper to care for) are pretty much "shovel ready" in that they have known what exactly to do but without the money to do it for decades. Jordon Steel John has been pushing this angle hard for a while.
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GoldStandardConure posted:Jordon Steel John has been pushing this angle hard for a while. It would be a really good and sensible thing to do, which is why it will definitely not be done.
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https://twitter.com/RSprouseNews/status/1268659957328732163
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attn MELB goons: If you wanna go to the protest tomorrow but don't wanna go alone, hit me up.
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NSW worst state entry: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/police-minister-calls-protesting-nuts-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/12324186 quote:The NSW Police Minister has labelled anyone who attends a protest during the coronavirus pandemic as "certifiably insane".
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And while we ponder the merits of accepting psych advice from a psychopathic paedophile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CMUtKWubxg
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Cartoon posted:NSW worst state entry: But you should definitely shop and get back to work asap!
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Reporters in America from now on should wear the blue warzone PRESS helmet/bullet proof vest- Just to show the cops "we're reporters"
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Zenithe posted:It would be a really good and sensible thing to do, which is why it will definitely not be done. I haven't spoken with him in a while, but I remember Jordon telling me there are no accessable houses available for him to rent in Canberra, so when he is there for work he has to rent a hotel room. So every time he goes to/from Canberra he has to pack up all his poo poo to take with him, rather than being able to have a second home with his work stuff for Canberra.
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Cartoon posted:NSW worst state entry: Sorry that should be corrected to: "Anyone who attends NSW during the pandemic is certifiably insane."
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Cpt Soban posted:Reporters in America from now on should wear the blue warzone PRESS helmet/bullet proof vest- Just to show the cops "we're reporters" Uh sorry to say but many do. And they're still targeted.
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Even if you're not wearing a blue helmet it should be obvious that someone with a full professional camera set up like that is press lmafo
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Second safe injecting room to open in Victoria, after the Richmond one has been overwhelmed by demand. Announcement at 12:30.
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https://twitter.com/wbfo/status/1268712530358292484?s=21 Thoughts and prayers for all those good cops that walked past the man dying on the pavement after being assaulted by the one bad cop, let’s hope people don’t tarnish their reputation alongside his
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Gridlocked posted:Sorry that should be corrected to: I've just come back from the shops, couldn't get a park and woolies full (regional NSW). We have no active cases in my area and HOLY poo poo THAT IS LUCKY. People do not give a gently caress.
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