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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:What, that they like to play good games? The new COD is a kick rear end game, and Fifa is a lot of fun. Easily 95% of the PC / console titles you can buy aren't going to be as good as either of those games. Not everybody is into making Cloud Strife play dress-up, or typing insane sentence fragments into chat while trying to steal baron, or getting headshot through the walls in D2 by spinbotters. more like, they like to scream at the tv and pay real money to open loot boxes. they probably stream it for an audience of 3 people Lodin posted:Nah sorry, Lords of Football is poo poo. The best game about kicking a ball around a bit is Behold The Kickmen. what about mega man x soccer
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ClamdestineBoyster posted:Huh play all those 1920s centennial nostalgia games lol. i dont know what this means
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Shibawanko posted:i dont know what this means Xmas in July, monopole deluxe, railroad tycoon beta, pope swap II..
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Ocarina of Time is overrated, has aged poorly and is really clunky and ugly. The only reason people like it is due to nostalgia or because others say how great it is. The Gerudo Valley theme is pretty sweet though.
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ClamdestineBoyster posted:Xmas in July, monopole deluxe, railroad tycoon beta, pope swap II.. i mean are you saying dos games are boring? what about one must fall, duke nukem, masters of orion, hexen, just some good dos games off the top of my head
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Endless-Rain posted:Ocarina of Time is overrated, has aged poorly and is really clunky and ugly. The only reason people like it is due to nostalgia or because others say how great it is. it's already the consensus here that oot sucks. i think people are also finally convinced that donkey kong country is poo poo
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Shibawanko posted:i mean are you saying dos games are boring? what about one must fall, duke nukem, masters of orion, hexen, just some good dos games off the top of my head Nah dos is inherently off the bore, if that os was subject to judgement it would spew out endless garbage.
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Endless-Rain posted:Ocarina of Time is overrated, has aged poorly and is really clunky and ugly. The only reason people like it is due to nostalgia or because others say how great it is. http://olremix.org/mp3/Felix,_Jildon_-_Epic_Valley(Zelda_64).mp3
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one of the worst things about DKC is how it just telegraphs all of its secrets to you, it's all like "get it? if you throw a barrel into this wall, it opens!" or "uh-oh... looks like there's a suspicious solitary banana at the top of the screen!!" and it's always extremely obvious once you know what the general pattern is. and then the secrets don't reward you with anything really good, just a bunch of collectathon minigames and extra lives i like games where secrets require unusual mechanics or one-off stuff. the hadoken in megaman x is a good example, it's triggered by an obscure series of player actions and it's exactly the kind of thing your dumb friend would claim is in the game, and you wouldn't believe him, but it's actually in there, that's a good secret
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Endless-Rain posted:Ocarina of Time is overrated, has aged poorly and is really clunky and ugly. The only reason people like it is due to nostalgia or because others say how great it is. Nah OOT holds up incredibly well and the only reason to poo poo on it is to pretend you are above popular thing. Seriously you can go back and play through it today and it’s still a great experience.
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oot is good, oot is maybe even great, but it does have a lot of hosed up poo poo. wall skulltulas, wall skulltulas you can't hit because there's no good vantage point, invisible enemies, enemies that freeze you and grab you, invisible wall skulltulas, invisible enemies that freeze you and grab you etc. contextual auto jump sucks rear end. contextual auto jump relative to your momentum sucks so much rear end that it turns you inside out from your anus
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ArbitraryC posted:Nah OOT holds up incredibly well and the only reason to poo poo on it is to pretend you are above popular thing. I too have such impeccable taste in video games that I assume anyone who doesn't like what I like is only doing it to be cool and edgy
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Shibawanko posted:i like games where secrets require unusual mechanics or one-off stuff. the hadoken in megaman x is a good example, it's triggered by an obscure series of player actions and it's exactly the kind of thing your dumb friend would claim is in the game, and you wouldn't believe him, but it's actually in there, that's a good secret
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ArbitraryC posted:Nah OOT holds up incredibly well and the only reason to poo poo on it is to pretend you are above popular thing. I have and it's as slow, ugly, and clunky as when I first played it. And Link yelling every time he does anything is as annoying as ever, not to mention Navi never shutting the gently caress up. Like I'll certainly accept the argument that OoT was a groundbreaking game and a historically important game, but it was not well made or fun. It was Nintendo take their first baby steps into a 3d ARPG and they (understandably) made a lot of mistakes with it.
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ArbitraryC posted:Nah OOT holds up incredibly well and the only reason to poo poo on it is to pretend you are above popular thing. yeah but the water temple
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Rutibex posted:yeah but the water temple water temple isn't good at all, but it does FEEL good to figure out how to clear it by yourself
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Martman posted:not that it's a good secret, but I wonder how many people have encountered the Chris Houlihan room in Link to the Past on accident. i think i actually might have once, on a rom before i knew it existed, i vaguely remember finding it but its hazy i wonder what that room says in the japanese version? The White Dragon posted:oot is good, oot is maybe even great, but it does have a lot of hosed up poo poo. wall skulltulas, wall skulltulas you can't hit because there's no good vantage point, invisible enemies, enemies that freeze you and grab you, invisible wall skulltulas, invisible enemies that freeze you and grab you etc. contextual auto jump sucks rear end. contextual auto jump relative to your momentum sucks so much rear end that it turns you inside out from your anus the only thing oot has going for it is that its a zelda game in a zelda world and it has a certain mood. other than that it just sucks as a game, the beginning is turbo boring with the stupid deku sticks and the sneaking part in hyrule castle and the fighting in general just really sucks
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:I too have such impeccable taste in video games that I assume anyone who doesn't like what I like is only doing it to be cool and edgy You can not like it that’s fine but the hot take wasn’t that “it’s just not for me”.
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ArbitraryC posted:Nah OOT holds up incredibly well and the only reason to poo poo on it is to pretend you are above popular thing. OoT doesn’t hold up at all, sorry e: the remake is literally in my 3DS right now because it’s such boring poo poo I use it to cure insomnia, I am talking from extremely recent experience here
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The White Dragon posted:what about mega man x soccer I really hoped this meant there was a Mega Man Soccer sequel for the X series.
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food court bailiff posted:OoT doesn’t hold up at all, sorry “I’m still playing it in 2020” is perhaps not the scathing condemnation you were hoping for. I’ve played through OOT a couple times, most recent was admittedly a while ago, but within a more modern era of games, around the xbone release. The graphics certainly look dated and the combat is nothing to write home about but the atmosphere, puzzles, and overall arc of the game is still a great experience. I honestly miss that kind of experience, I always liked the handheld Zeldas over the console releases because they tended to have a more classic feel. My Zelda hot take is that I actually enjoyed the temple of the ocean king in phantom hourglass. The concept of revisiting the same place as you get more and more items and abilities that let you progress through it in different ways was imo pretty cool. People who felt it was a slog because they just solved puzzles the same way they did the first time rather than utilizing the progress you made in the game kinda missed the point imho.
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ArbitraryC posted:“I’m still playing it in 2020” is perhaps not the scathing condemnation you were hoping for. There's a lot to do here so let's make a plan, first try rereading what they wrote, and then look up what "insomnia" is and then think about whether "this game is so boring and bad that it cures my insomnia" is a compliment
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OoT was boring even when it was new. When I was a young lass I played it for awhile with a friend and her little brother, it was above average for the N64 but most of the N64 games were really awful. Like it was novel and cool to control Link in 3D and ride around on a horse, which was practically an Open World experience at the time, and as children we were pretty impressed for awhile, but once the novelty wore off the game beneath it was crap and we wound up never finishing it. We replayed Link to the Past a bunch of times Mario Kart and Star Fox were excellent. Smash Brothers was fun too but that came out way later I think
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I had both Zelda 64 and Final Fantasy 7 and i played a hell of a lot more FF7. i also played a hell of a lot more link to the past or even zelda 1. zelda 64 is a flop, as are all 3d zelda Rutibex fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Jun 7, 2020 |
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it really cannot be overstated how late OoT was to the whole 3D game genre, like it really genuinely does not have many excuses past the hardware limitations of the 64 for how lame it is
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food court bailiff posted:it really cannot be overstated how late OoT was to the whole 3D game genre, like it really genuinely does not have many excuses past the hardware limitations of the 64 for how lame it is look. they literally built it on the bones of mario and star fox*. what else can you expect when you reuse code THAT HARD e: my mistake it's the other way around, you can load mario and star fox states in oot and run around in the courtyard and play the first stage of sf64 Fur20 fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Jun 7, 2020 |
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The White Dragon posted:look. they literally built it on the bones of mario and star fox*. what else can you expect when you reuse code THAT HARD i know you’re probably joking on some level but I have run out of all the real booze in my house and have moved on to expired gluten-free beer and screwtop sake but regardless kid icarus was made using the metroid engine and is actually a good game so that’s not much of an excuse for a game that came out 11 years later
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food court bailiff posted:i know you’re probably joking on some level but I have run out of all the real booze in my house and have moved on to expired gluten-free beer and screwtop sake OoT doesn't really need an excuse cause no one other than people in a thread dedicated to questionable takes on video games on some dying forums would consider it bad.
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ClamdestineBoyster posted:Nah dos is inherently off the bore, if that os was subject to judgement it would spew out endless garbage. wät
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ArbitraryC posted:OoT doesn't really need an excuse cause no one other than people in a thread dedicated to questionable takes on video games on some dying forums would consider it bad. okay dude e: in case I’m not being 100% clear here “only people discussing this in the place we are currently discussing this could disagree with me” is a profoundly banal position to take even for you Rockman Reserve fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Jun 7, 2020 |
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Shibawanko posted:i like games where secrets require unusual mechanics or one-off stuff. the hadoken in megaman x is a good example, it's triggered by an obscure series of player actions and it's exactly the kind of thing your dumb friend would claim is in the game, and you wouldn't believe him, but it's actually in there, that's a good secret bullshit, no kid ever discovered this on their own. This is the kind of obtuse thing they'd tell to a specific magazine, or hints hotline, or some other gimmick. First, get 100% of everything in the game so there's no reason to play anymore. Then go to a specific level and ride on a thing until you come to a specific ledge and then die. Do that three times and instead of dying a last time go to the capsule to get the hadoken? Goldeneye had secret cheats, like, not the ones you unlocked through beating missions or objectives at certain speeds and difficulties. A way to just do button presses in a menu to unlock them. Would've remained secret except some gameshark hacker stumbled upon them and rare felt like releasing them so gameshark wouldn't have that "secret cheats" edge or something.
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food court bailiff posted:okay dude It's the video game hot takes thread man, I get it and I'll drop it, I shouldn't have argued with it in the first place. I just found it a bit scorching over something like "d2 took the d1 formula in the wrong direction" which is certainly a unique idea but one you can read and go "you know, they have a point" rather than it just coming across as goons not liking popular thing. Khanstant posted:bullshit, no kid ever discovered this on their own. This is the kind of obtuse thing they'd tell to a specific magazine, or hints hotline, or some other gimmick. First, get 100% of everything in the game so there's no reason to play anymore. Then go to a specific level and ride on a thing until you come to a specific ledge and then die. Do that three times and instead of dying a last time go to the capsule to get the hadoken?
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Windwaker and Twilight Princess, even playing the original GameCube versions, do not feel that clunky and outdated today, but OoT does. It really, really does not hold up, however a remake, not a remaster, of it would probably be really good.
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I like the dog ending in Silent Hill or Resident Evil Whatever.
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TP is straight garbage. Not even "bad for a Zelda game", it's just bad. It's the only main series Zelda game I didn't bother to beat.
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is pepsi ok posted:TP is straight garbage. Not even "bad for a Zelda game", it's just bad. It's the only main series Zelda game I didn't bother to beat. It has perhaps the best dungeons/temples of any of the 3D Zeldas, its just you have to do quite a lot of boring poo poo before finally getting to do them.
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Here's an opinion: the The Elder Scrolls games are much jankier than the Might & Magic games, but in a fundamentally different, unfun way. Still ruins immersion effectively.
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is pepsi ok posted:TP is straight garbage. Not even "bad for a Zelda game", it's just bad. It's the only main series Zelda game I didn't bother to beat. It had so many parts where I was actively dreading or hoping to avoid. Basically any fight with the fuckin like Tron monsters or whatever was just a slog. Being wolflink was fine, they just made those fights play out in a lovely way. The game had some of the coolest poo poo in it too, but locked away or underutilized. Double hookshots was dope, but only like one dungeon really used it and that dungeon was eh. The loving spinner was awesome, we could've been spinning our asses off across the map! Nope, only in these ziggy zag spots in this area har har.
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Khanstant posted:bullshit, no kid ever discovered this on their own. This is the kind of obtuse thing they'd tell to a specific magazine, or hints hotline, or some other gimmick. First, get 100% of everything in the game so there's no reason to play anymore. Then go to a specific level and ride on a thing until you come to a specific ledge and then die. Do that three times and instead of dying a last time go to the capsule to get the hadoken? yeah it's true that no kid would ever discover that on their own but because itd be in some magazine at some point it would spread like a rumor and that just makes it cooler when you actually do find it maybe there are better examples. super mario world has good secrets, flying under the flagpole to reach soda lake was cool, as was the special world. my point though is that i don't like routine, heavily telegraphed secret areas like in DKC
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ArbitraryC posted:It's the video game hot takes thread man, I get it and I'll drop it, I shouldn't have argued with it in the first place. I just found it a bit scorching over something like "d2 took the d1 formula in the wrong direction" which is certainly a unique idea but one you can read and go "you know, they have a point" rather than it just coming across as goons not liking popular thing. yeah no i hate missable things, at least in longer games where you can't just easily replay them, but that's not the same as a secret, the hadoken thing or the super mario world secrets you can just go back to after you beat the game. here's the reason i couldn't get into dark souls: i was having a pretty good time fighting skeletons in an old castle, and then suddenly i kill a skeleton guy who looks a little different, i look it up online and turns out it's actually a merchant who sells some stuff. i quit the game at that point because i didn't have an earlier save, and the merchant probably sold some poo poo i needed for a good playthrough. i don't need to 100% every game i play but i don't want to be locked out of 100% by some arbitrary action either
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