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Check out the progress on my mod girls and boys:  Oh!!! And first on a new page?! Y'all are in for a treat as I also give your an extra special sneak peek at some additional modding I've done then on my total conversion!!  
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Chocobo posted:...The textures of the inside of the spacesuit frost over. And her neck is attached directly to the frosty material...
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Jun 7, 2020 19:55
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I have been reading the X4 thread and having the occasional hearty lol at what appears to be a working star citizen but several times better
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Jun 7, 2020 20:03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=842r6fZsa-w
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Jun 7, 2020 20:13
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Funny how all they needed to do was walk straight and slow and even that looked buggy and wonky.
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Jun 7, 2020 20:21
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Sanya Juutilainen posted:What does your heart tell you? That I really shouldn't be surprised at the level of scummyness CIG will stoop to... 
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Jun 7, 2020 20:22
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sebmojo posted:I have been reading the X4 thread and having the occasional hearty lol at what appears to be a working star citizen but several times better It can't really compare with the beauty and grandeur that is Star Citizen. What's the point of being a space billionaire with multiple space cities built if you can't have space-plebs to awe?! What's the point of having huge space battles if you can't fideliciously see opposing pilots t-posing in their ships?! Maybe it's good enough for the serfs, but X4 just doesn't appeal to the distinguished not-pay-to-win Citizen's psyche.
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Jun 7, 2020 20:32
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I'm the uncontrollable hip twitch
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Jun 7, 2020 20:56
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 posted:Nice recreation! This trailer does show a huge issue with the Elite trailer tho. Look at the backgrounds, you can see for miles and the parallax is very frequent and the perspective shifts nicely. In the Elite trailer, the background barely moves and I suspect a lot of it is a skybox. posted:This fan produced SC trailer looks better in almost every way compared to E:D's official trailer. posted:;-) I wish to see ED community react ;-) But I don't want to start a war! :-) Juste debate ^^ These people are literally blind.
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Jun 7, 2020 21:05
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I'm the randomly jittering hips on the female character with the impossibly defined rear end. I'm also the Carrack as it wobbles, physics-less, to land.
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Jun 7, 2020 21:12
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Dwesa posted:
Imagine trying to compare a full game that's been in development for nearly a decade and has ships sold for 100's-1000's+ dollars, against an expansion pack for a game that's been out for nearly a decade and routinely sells for sub-10's of dollars.
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Jun 7, 2020 21:26
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Like, Frontier can totally let Elite die at this point. They've put in their due diligence. Sure the game itself is mostly boring, but take what you learned and start making Elite 2 if you want.
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Jun 7, 2020 21:27
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Mirificus posted:https://twitter.com/supi_SC/status/1268638261544652800 did CIG also 
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Jun 7, 2020 21:47
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Does someone have that graph of the insane funding numbers they pulled in for May vs previous?
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Jun 7, 2020 21:48
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Tell me that last one isn't real...
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Jun 7, 2020 21:57
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The Titanic posted:Imagine trying to compare a full game that's been in development for nearly a decade and has ships sold for 100's-1000's+ dollars, against an expansion pack for a game that's been out for nearly a decade and routinely sells for sub-10's of dollars. The dream of what Star Citizen could be one day with infinite dev time and money always trumps any finished and released game on the market today. Star Citizen will always do it better and in higher fidelity, and if you point to the pitiful broken model viewer it is today, well it’s all just an early days pre-alpha and you can’t criticize it! The fidelity argument is getting pretty hilarious though, since the graphics are more and more dated and your average Bethesda game has better physics.
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Jun 7, 2020 22:25
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Nalin posted:Store Citizer: I've played enough since then to know how to control the game and how to avoid most of the bad bugs so any new trip report I could make is generally very bland and would only feature the same issues over and over again
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Jun 7, 2020 23:01
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The Titanic posted:Like, Frontier can totally let Elite die at this point. They've put in their due diligence. Sure the game itself is mostly boring, but take what you learned and start making Elite 2 if you want. Nah, Elite is GaaS by now and you'd have to rework the whole engine to improve it enough to call it Elite 2, which is more work than we can imagine, really. There probably will be some more big things, but I don't see them leaving the engine - instead improving it - for at least ~10 more years.
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Jun 7, 2020 23:08
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colonelwest posted:The dream of what Star Citizen could be one day with infinite dev time and money always trumps any finished and released game on the market today. Star Citizen will always do it better and in higher fidelity, and if you point to the pitiful broken model viewer it is today, well it’s all just an early days pre-alpha and you can’t criticize it! It'll be a war up until Frontier releases it and it's just "ok". But this also isn't part of their identity. It's an expansion pack. It can look and play like some kind of Steam junk game because their identity isn't based off of walking around, it's about the space game part. SC has already been shown up by X4, who's also got walking around in your ship while it's flying and walking around on stations and interacting with NPCs. But X4 also has a pretty engaging "build a space empire" game running as well. Where as in SC I guess you can find a chest armor to store you drink in.  Priorities, right? Kind of like building a crippling jail system on top of a game where just playing it can be seen as a crime and the crime tallying mechanics are completely broken. But hey, it's progress towards something. I guess.
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Jun 7, 2020 23:14
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Sanya Juutilainen posted:Nah, Elite is GaaS by now and you'd have to rework the whole engine to improve it enough to call it Elite 2, which is more work than we can imagine, really. There probably will be some more big things, but I don't see them leaving the engine - instead improving it - for at least ~10 more years. You don't need to build a new engine from scratch just to make a part 2 or sequel of something. Just stop selling expansion packs and roll them up into the new release. Bethesda has been doing this for like 2 decades with their Gamebryo system. In fact some of their claim to fame every new Elder Scrolls is "we built a new engine!" until people actually get it and it is, in fact, just another upgrade of their old engine.
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Jun 7, 2020 23:16
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The Titanic posted:You don't need to build a new engine from scratch just to make a part 2 or sequel of something. Just stop selling expansion packs and roll them up into the new release. Bethesda also currently has terrible reputation because of this, and that's even though it's moddable (unlike Elite). I don't think it's a way to go, really, it will just motivate people into more "greedy Frontier" talk.
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Jun 7, 2020 23:19
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Sanya Juutilainen posted:Bethesda also currently has terrible reputation because of this, and that's even though it's moddable (unlike Elite). I don't think it's a way to go, really, it will just motivate people into more "greedy Frontier" talk. When they announced Fallout 76 I was really hoping they were going to use the money from that to build a new engine for Starfield and Untitled Elder Scrolls game... Seems like they're determined to keep plugging away with their old one.
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Jun 7, 2020 23:26
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The Titanic posted:If you want to be zany, that's fine. Space nerds.
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Jun 8, 2020 00:25
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Imagine making something that retroactively makes the Elite Walkaroos trailer look better by comparison lmao. Jesus
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Jun 8, 2020 00:25
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Sanya Juutilainen posted:Bethesda also currently has terrible reputation because of this, and that's even though it's moddable (unlike Elite). I don't think it's a way to go, really, it will just motivate people into more "greedy Frontier" talk. Terrible reputation or not, I'd be willing to bet Skyrim alone has been more profitable than both Star Citizen and Elite combined. I don't know how to quantify that, though.
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Jun 8, 2020 00:27
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:When they announced Fallout 76 I was really hoping they were going to use the money from that to build a new engine for Starfield and Untitled Elder Scrolls game... Seems like they're determined to keep plugging away with their old one. Same. According to rumors it’s really bitten them in the rear end. They’ve struggled trying to get spaceflight to work in their lovely engine and it’s set Starfield pretty far back.
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Jun 8, 2020 00:53
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colonelwest posted:Same. So y'all are saying that trying to ram a space game into an engine built for FPS world navigation is a bad idea? 
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Jun 8, 2020 00:57
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colonelwest posted:Same. that seems crazy, they must have more money than God with how much Skyrim has sold in all its dozens of iterations
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Jun 8, 2020 01:14
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The Titanic posted:So y'all are saying that trying to ram a space game into an engine built for FPS world navigation is a bad idea? Nah you just need a genius game designer like Chris to make the entire map underwater, one late night coding session and it’s done.
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Jun 8, 2020 02:06
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sebmojo posted:that seems crazy, they must have more money than God with how much Skyrim has sold in all its dozens of iterations Yeah, I don’t know how true the rumors are. There have been two rounds that have made their way into the games press. But they have said on multiple occasions that they aren’t going to build or license a new engine for either new game, which is pretty mind boggling. All I know is that if they launch a game in the TYOL 2022 and it still has a minutes long loading screen (on an SSD) to get into a small building, I’m going to flip poo poo. colonelwest fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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Jun 8, 2020 02:10
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There's a conversation in the Intel thread about how said massive company hosed up their process lead and the theory is like Engineer: This is hosed. We need a year and to build a new project from the ground up Management: Lol no (five years later everything is still hosed) I assume the same thing happened with Starfield except they said "we need a new engine" and management was like lol no
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Jun 8, 2020 02:15
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Spiderdrake posted:There's a conversation in the Intel thread about how said massive company hosed up their process lead and the theory is like This happens in shitloads of companies, though. Sunk cost isn't limited to backers.
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Jun 8, 2020 02:54
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I remember loading up Fallout 4 for the first time. I had to check the calendar to make sure I hadn't travelled back in time. It looked poo poo.
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Jun 8, 2020 03:20
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Yeah Fallout 4 felt like they were really stretching to put another game in this ancient engine. Everything instanced, bland low res textures. I had fun with it but it absolutely felt dated day of release and it has me worried if they try to release another game in that engine without some major overhaul it's gonna feel terrible.
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Jun 8, 2020 03:47
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sebmojo posted:that seems crazy, they must have more money than God with how much Skyrim has sold in all its dozens of iterations I mean look at their products though, they haven't had a new engine in like 20 years and Fallout 76 was clearly far beyond their capacity to develop adequately. I have no problem believing they are struggling with a new engine. As with CIG it turns out that having all the money in the world doesn't matter if you don't actually have the ability to recognize and develop quality programmers. Good code doesn't happen when you replace one good, expensive coder with 10 college grads on an assembly line. You just get really expensive garbage.
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Jun 8, 2020 03:48
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The female jittery hips showed how great the game is. You can walk AND jitter your hips. That is quality mocap. And they probably used a famous actress, too. I don't know what y'all complainin' about.
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Jun 8, 2020 04:28
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I saw a blurb that Elite Dangerous is going to let you walk on Planets soon. The boys must be happy about that.
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Jun 8, 2020 04:52
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Scruffpuff posted:This happens in shitloads of companies, though. Sunk cost isn't limited to backers.
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Jun 8, 2020 04:54
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Spiderdrake posted:Oh yeah, but this feels exactly the same. The whole engine thing is so beautifully Star Citizen. Star Citizen is so all-encompassing in fuckery. gently caress ups like from on high, gently caress ups like from shoestring DIY indie crap, just a massive portrait of every kind of gently caress up. In a sense the "never been done before" mantra is true: Star Citizen has made every possible mistake simultaneously during the development of a single project. Surely that has never been done before.
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Sarsapariller posted:I mean look at their products though, they haven't had a new engine in like 20 years and Fallout 76 was clearly far beyond their capacity to develop adequately. I have no problem believing they are struggling with a new engine. I'm pretty sure Bethesda proper didn't do FO76, I think they handed it off to a small studio in Texas.
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