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Is it too much to hope that Avon and Somerset Police's investigation turns up approx 10,000 witness statements along the lines of "I'm Spartacus"? Edit: What is the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything.
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I'm sorry, is lynching not a federal crime yet 
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Jun 8, 2020 09:31
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I'm 99% sure I saw the statue walk and trip into the water
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Jun 8, 2020 09:33
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I'm sorry, is lynching not a federal crime yet A big flaming stink posted:greetings from hellworld
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Jun 8, 2020 09:34
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A big flaming stink posted:greetings from hellworld They should pledge to make Internal Affairs divisions act how they are portrayed in film and TV so they do actually go around putting cops in prison for saying mean things rather than just helping them get away with murder.
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Jun 8, 2020 09:41
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A big flaming stink posted:greetings from hellworld - if you're murdered by the police you might get some money back - the police officer who murdered you might go in the Naughty Book - the police aren't allowed to murder you by strangulation any more - the police might find it harder to murder you from a literal tank - the police officer who murdered you might get his wrist slapped by a different person
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Jun 8, 2020 09:51
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I'm sorry, is lynching not a federal crime yet I mean...lots of things aren't a federal crime. Murder, for example. Federal law is generally meant to cover inter-state crimes (or crimes occurring on directly United States-owned land).
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Jun 8, 2020 09:54
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Apraxin posted:https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1269724206440370178 Please tell me those likes are supported by bots because those are Trump tweet numbers.
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Ending qualified immunity (in general, not just for cops) is a good idea though, so I'll wait to see how it gets watered down so that the people writing it are still kept above the law.bessantj posted:Thanks (and to you Tindalos), that makes sense. It didn't ring true for me when Murray was saying it but I don't have enough of an insight into the LGBT community to see what is actually going on there. You do hear the first one sometimes from older gay men and gold star lesbians, like "we've fought too hard to let them take this away from us and turn everything into a mish mash" but like what were you actually fighting for? If you were fighting for the right for everyone to love who they want without prosecution by the state or persecution by society then surely a majority of under 24s saying they're neither gay nor straight is winning. If you were fighting for the right to say 'I'm gay' without anyone being opposed then surely a proliferation of sexual identities is winning. The only battles being lost by this continuing are heteronormatism and the ones that place emphasis on gay separatism rather than society.
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Q: Do you want the transition to be extended? Starmer says the government says it can get a deal. Labour will hold them to that. Q: Sadiq Khan says there should be an extension. Starmer repeats the point about holding the government to account. It is important to avoid no deal. Q: So if we were facing no deal, you would extend? Starmer says Labour lost the election. It cannot decide this now.
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Jun 8, 2020 10:03
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feedmegin posted:I mean...lots of things aren't a federal crime. Murder, for example. Federal law is generally meant to cover inter-state crimes (or crimes occurring on directly United States-owned land). There's the obvious ones, like if you cross state lines or murder a Federal official or member of the government, but there's some others that can be prosecuted federally like drug murders and murder during the robbery of a bank, even if you never personally left your state.
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Lungboy posted:Q: Do you want the transition to be extended? God what a waste he is
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Lungboy posted:A good tweet about Rowling https://twitter.com/qpheevr/status/1269637114297298946 As someone pointed out, the thing being talked about in that thread is not a gotcha. Hermione is AFAB, and doing something to make her body male does not change the fact that she is female. If anything it's proof Rowling was a TERF all along. (And in reality, that whole tweet thread exists because people who refuse to read another book are analysing a story written for children from the perspective of adults. It's not a good tweet.)
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Guavanaut posted:Was it one of the Egyptian civilizations that believed that, or someone in the Levant/Mesopotamia? I mean there wasn't really 'one of' the Egyptian civilisations that believed that in the ancient world, they're fairly famous for having one long continuous one for thousands of years pretty much til the Arabs rock up, or at least the Romans. But yeah, they'd do that. Check out what happened to my boy Akhenaten's gear after his death.
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Starmer is really somehow even worse than we all knew he was going to be isn't he lol
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quote:Q: What is your policy on Europe now? e: lmao I didn't see everyone else had posted it too, what a gobshite non answer that I'm sure will win back the Brexit voters who will definitely not still see him as a metropolitan remain elite the deadline for the extension is the end of the month and they're definitely not getting a deal, Keir dear also it will be more difficult to blame the government for no deal Brexit if you weren't actually opposing it how is this "constructive opposition" XMNN fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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Jun 8, 2020 10:16
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Jedit posted:As someone pointed out, the thing being talked about in that thread is not a gotcha. Hermione is AFAB, and doing something to make her body male does not change the fact that she is female. If anything it's proof Rowling was a TERF all along. True, but the idea that identity is linked to physical expression (has vagina = woman) has always been one of JKR's arguements hasn't it? And this thread points out that in this section that's not at all what happens, Hermione is still "she" no matter what her physical form? e: i agree on the Harry Potter readers, this seemed more trying to use JKR's own words against her, which i'm all in favour of if it works.
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Junior G-man posted:https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1269906519539277824?s=20 This isn't even straddling the fence, this is coming down firmly on the statue nonce side of the fence.
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Just lol at the idea of doing a call-in show when you don't intend to take any positions on anything.
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Guavanaut posted:There's the obvious ones, like if you cross state lines or murder a Federal official or member of the government, but there's some others that can be prosecuted federally like drug murders and murder during the robbery of a bank, even if you never personally left your state. The bolded is what I meant by there having to be some kind of interstate connection, yeah. I'm curious what you can be prosecuted for federally if you, a native of Baltimore, perhaps a chap called Omar, off some other chap who's a native of Baltimore, in Baltimore, because he ripped off your stash?
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I've been willing to give starmer a lot more leeway than most of you lot but that was loving abysmal.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I've been willing to give starmer a lot more leeway than most of you lot but that was loving abysmal. Keir Starmer couldn't lead an alcoholic to an off-licence.
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Jun 8, 2020 10:23
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"Not Keir, Reek!"
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I've been willing to give starmer a lot more leeway than most of you lot but that was loving abysmal. Sure, he was abysmal. But he was abysmal in such a forensic manner!
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feedmegin posted:The bolded is what I meant by there having to be some kind of interstate connection, yeah. I'm curious what you can be prosecuted for federally if you, a native of Baltimore, perhaps a chap called Omar, off some other chap who's a native of Baltimore, in Baltimore, because he ripped off your stash? Like say a chap called Omar is killing people for their stash, and the police are ignoring it because 'blacks killing blacks', and then he kills someone who makes it A Thing, because they're drug killings the Feds can usually build a case that because in one of the cases the dealer that was killed got their stash from a supplier who drove to Philadelphia to buy it from the Philly Crew, Omar indirectly did a Federal crime.
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https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ative-overnight Guardian with one of the stupidest takes possible today. Accuses 'the left' (a global group including people with widely differing political beliefs and also scientists) of callously ignoring economic victims of the pandemic by supporting restrictions instead of simply choosing the lesser of 2 evils. Just ignores what would have happened without lockdown and goes for the classic 'no one really knows anything about the virus', so obviously all the public health advice is basically just made up. Also as with many centre right pieces it re-frames that deaths due to economic depression are some sort of inevitable fact of nature that we can do nothing about rather than direct consequences of deliberate choices made in government policy. All the victims of the financial crisis are just people who died due to unavoidable consequences of the natural order and not also because nobody made any serious effort to save them, instead focusing on protecting the fortunes of the rich. Since I'm sure they will fight tooth and nail to do the same thing again all those deaths are on 'the left' now apparently. Standard claims of 'politicising science' as well whenever they don't want to agree with whatever the conclusion is. I'm sure there is a number of deaths that would happen even if we actually tried to prevent it this time but I find it hard to believe that number is greater than the deaths that would have happened from an uncontrolled pandemic or even our own poorly controlled pandemic. I thought initially it was just a bad coronavirus take but while the author superficially says the right things about the BLM protests it reads almost exactly like the American right wing anti protest hot takes. The thrust basically boils down to 'how can you say lockdown was important and now support the protests' which has been one of the main anti BLM talking points as well as focusing disproportionately on the looting.
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bessantj posted:EDIT: Plus its not as if slavery has been consigned to history, it wasn't that long ago people were arrested in the U.K. for keeping slaves. I dread to think how many people are still enslaved in the U.K. today. This is one of the things that annoys me about the whole 'modern day slavery' thing. The literal point and definition of slavery is that it is the legal ownership of human beings. If your slave escapes, goes to a copper, and you get banged up because of it, that is not slavery, it is false imprisonment. When it is slavery then the copper arrests the slave and returns him to you for a whipping. That's how you tell the difference.
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On the statue, has anyone seen the photo of it surrounded by protest signs laid up against the plinth, with a protestor kneeling, fist in the air, on top? loving THAT needs to be the statue. I would dearly love to see that plinth, as it currently is, surrounded by bronze copies of all the signs, with a protestor - not a specific one, just A Person Like You, commemorated. The photo is incredibly powerful, the statue would be too. The beaten up rusty Colston can go in a museum somewhere in a display of 'poo poo we used to do to honour horrible people' along with Churchill and all the slaver generals from the US revolutionary war. And all the monarchs. And loving Cecil loving Rhodes. And Thatcher.
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Algol Star posted:I thought initially it was just a bad coronavirus take but while the author superficially says the right things about the BLM protests it reads almost exactly like the American right wing anti protest hot takes. The thrust basically boils down to 'how can you say lockdown was important and now support the protests' which has been one of the main anti BLM talking points as well as focusing disproportionately on the looting.
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Jun 8, 2020 10:38
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God, I've never been more proud of my city than I did yesterday. I was about 100m away when the statue came down, I couldn't see it but I heard the cheers for it and then I got in closer for the speeches they did afterwards, which were all completely loving rad and I hope find their way online in full. The whole day was just incredible, there were so many people that turned out. I remember walking up to Castle Park and I couldn't even see any grass cause the entire place was covered in people. It really felt revolutionary, like there was a way we could build a better world. I'm very grateful to Bristol's black community for letting us be a part of that space. Also everyone should listen to the latest Praxiscast ep cause we had a really great discussion that covered so much.
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thespaceinvader posted:On the statue, has anyone seen the photo of it surrounded by protest signs laid up against the plinth, with a protestor kneeling, fist in the air, on top?
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Algol Star posted:I thought initially it was just a bad coronavirus take but while the author superficially says the right things about the BLM protests it reads almost exactly like the American right wing anti protest hot takes. The thrust basically boils down to 'how can you say lockdown was important and now support the protests' which has been one of the main anti BLM talking points as well as focusing disproportionately on the looting. because it is an American right wing anti protest take author's not a regular Guardian columnist. it's a guest piece by a NYT writer.
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Algol Star posted:https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ative-overnight Why does a "cultural critic" writing an article about science?
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Borrovan posted:I have not but I would like to Not got the protestor kneeling but 
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thespaceinvader posted:The beaten up rusty Colston can go in a museum somewhere in a display of 'poo poo we used to do to honour horrible people' along with Churchill and all the slaver generals from the US revolutionary war. I was thinking that yesterday. the statue is now a piece of history that deserves preservation for future generations to learn about the 2020s. but what's the appropriate length of time to wait before fishing it out?
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Cerv posted:I was thinking that yesterday. the statue is now a piece of history that deserves preservation for future generations to learn about the 2020s. When there's a general agreement that there is racial equality in the UK. It should stay in the river until then, gathering barnacles. The more hosed up it looks by the time it comes out will be a signifier of how much we didn't listen.
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Is it fair to say Starmer is a racist then? Or at least willing to appease racists? Which is to say; racist.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is it fair to say Starmer is a racist then? Or at least willing to appease racists? Which is to say; racist.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is it fair to say Starmer is a racist then? Or at least willing to appease racists? Which is to say; racist. There has never been a non racist PM, so this is what electable means e: fucks sake Borrovan!
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