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Gray Ghost posted:I actually think the Ancestries & Cultures release by Arcanist Press should probably just be used instead. Check it out here . I wrote this almost two years ago. I'm sure it's imperfect in retrospect, but I'm waiting to find out that WOTC steals that such I adopted from 13th Age. https://www.dmsguild.com/product/250734 Or they'll blatantly steal from this product that staff already knows about. https://www.dmsguild.com/product/287638/Grazilaxxs-Guide-to-Ancestry Eastmabl fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Jun 18, 2020 |
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Eastmabl posted:I wrote this almost two years ago. I'm sure it's imperfect in retrospect, but I'm waiting to find out that WOTC steals that such I adopted from 13th Age. I think you meant https://www.dmsguild.com/product/250734/Mordenkainens-Musings-Nature--Nurture-in-the-Multiverse ?
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quote:Later this year, we will release a product (not yet announced) that offers a way for a player to customize their character’s origin, including the option to change the ability score increases that come from being an elf, a dwarf, or one of D&D's many other playable folk. This option emphasizes that each person in the game is an individual with capabilities all their own. New feat: One of the Good Ones!
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Jun 18, 2020 07:50
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quote:Later this year, we will release a product (not yet announced) that offers a way for a player to customize their character’s origin, including the option to change the ability score increases that come from being an elf, a dwarf, or one of D&D's many other playable folk. This option emphasizes that each person in the game is an individual with capabilities all their own. For only $19.99 plus p&p you too can have permission to not play a racist stereotype!
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Jun 18, 2020 08:43
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Whybird posted:For only $19.99 plus p&p you too can have permission to not play a racist stereotype! ...at the discretion of your DM.
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Jun 18, 2020 09:21
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Okay, look, I know that they're still behind the curve and it remains to be seen whether or not they will follow up on this, but I think we can agree that this is a promising statement if intent, no?
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Jun 18, 2020 09:45
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They can make all the statements in the world but for me personally as long as Mike Mearls stays on the payroll WotC can gently caress off
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paradoxGentleman posted:Okay, look, I know that they're still behind the curve and it remains to be seen whether or not they will follow up on this, but I think we can agree that this is a promising statement if intent, no? It's a statement about a possible upcoming announcement of a product that might be coming out next year. They also announced that they'd set up a contact point for people who got hosed over when Mike loving Mearls passed their contact details directly to his friend the pants making GBS threads rapist, and that was a year and a half ago, so...
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paradoxGentleman posted:Okay, look, I know that they're still behind the curve and it remains to be seen whether or not they will follow up on this, but I think we can agree that this is a promising statement if intent, no? It's definitely better than just remaining silent and pretending the issue doesn't exist, as they are doing with the whole Mike Mearls thing. Which are confusing statements, especially considering how every reply to their efforts is met with hundreds of people requesting for the later.
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Jun 18, 2020 10:05
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Why the heck are they so darn loyal to Mike Mearls?
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Jun 18, 2020 10:47
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Because they love being evil shits, it's not that complicated. They like Zak and love that he's a pants-making GBS threads rapist because only systemic enabling of cruelty and harassment can give them boners anymore. It's not about business or contracts or anything legal or rational. They're just incredibly horny for doing the cruelest, most malevolent thing possible every goddamn second of every goddamn day.
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My guess is that they're trying to pander to both sides of the gaming community coin and think that addressing some issues will give them enough clout to retain the more socially conscious while letting Mearls carry on avoids losing the retrograde toxic nerds. I don't think they're "evil for evil's sake" I just think they are A Company and want to Make Money. They will follow what they feel will bring and retain the most people, and the community is very divided so they make all of these half measures and contradictory approaches.
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Loxbourne posted:Why the heck are they so darn loyal to Mike Mearls? Inertia. It takes a lot of work to fire someone, especially to fire someone who has been in a job a long time and has a lot of support in the community. They don't want to make the effort, even if they're fully aware of how poo poo he is, which is honestly doubtful. The corp also don't give a gently caress about BEING evil, it gives a gently caress about APPEARING evil, and Mearls doesn't appear evil enough to enouhg of their audience to affect their bottom line, so they DGAF.
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paradoxGentleman posted:Okay, look, I know that they're still behind the curve and it remains to be seen whether or not they will follow up on this, but I think we can agree that this is a promising statement if intent, no? It's not like "D&D But Marginally Less Racist" was something it took top scientists a decade working in a secret lab to just now crack, as far as statements of intent go "we've decided it might be financially advantageous for us to catch up to where a bunch of other folks have been for decades so soon you'll have the privilege of paying us for optional anti-bioessentialism errata" is pretty fuckin weak tea.
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I understand where you're coming from, it just... I dunno, it feels weird to see the biggest name in the industry take a shy, tentative step towards being more progressive, thus exposing more fans of tabletop gaming to this idea than any indie darling could, and the reception being so cold. I wouldn't hail them as saviors either, but drat, I would still call this an overall win for the good guys. Not as good as it would be if they gave Mearls the boot, but still.
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Hostile V posted:I do think it's good of Stolze to outline what to expect from him in a social encounter because it gives people something to hold him accountable to while also helping him put pre-emptive boundaries out there. It's also a pretty cunning way of trying to establish a broader community standard, as well as a clear set of "these are the boundaries people habitually cross at cons when they do sketchy poo poo". If Greg Stolze doesn't consider it professionally necessary to breach any of these guidelines, what's everyone else's excuse? If Greg Stolze is happy to have a one-to-one talk somewhere in public view or doesn't need to take you back to his hotel room for gaming, why should others insist on that? Sometimes, for some of the things, the answer will be "there's specific needs at work here", like the person in question has hearing difficulties and finds it hard to have an in-depth, involved conversation on a noisy con floor or whatever. Which is fine. But others clearly aren't necessary, like the alcohol thing. And each of them individually are potential red flags if someone breaks the rule in question.
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Loxbourne posted:Why the heck are they so darn loyal to Mike Mearls?
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It's not like it hasn't been known that there were issues with racial representation in D&D for decades, WotC Eric Boyd tried to make the Gur (a Romani stereotype that got shoved into the Realms) less racist in 2003. This has already been a big, known problem for DECADES
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But but but this time they've employed a romani consultant and done some hiring from the beautiful diversity and their names are uh um um ah their ah names um.
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paradoxGentleman posted:I understand where you're coming from, it just... I dunno, it feels weird to see the biggest name in the industry take a shy, tentative step towards being more progressive, thus exposing more fans of tabletop gaming to this idea than any indie darling could, and the reception being so cold. We are not obligated to applaud when someone does the bare minimum for the first time.
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quote:Later this year, we will release a product (not yet announced) that offers a way for a player to customize their character’s origin, including the option to change the ability score increases that come from being an elf, a dwarf, or one of D&D's many other playable folk. now, more than ever, you can buy our product
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UrbanLabyrinth posted:I think you meant https://www.dmsguild.com/product/250734/Mordenkainens-Musings-Nature--Nurture-in-the-Multiverse ? Yes, thanks. Fixed in the original.
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Cat Face Joe posted:now, more than ever, you can buy our product The awkward situation people have pointed out a couple times is that in organized official 5e play you only get to use one supplement per character. So you have to spend your supplement use on the supplement to make the game less biologically essentialist?
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Arivia posted:The awkward situation people have pointed out a couple times is that in organized official 5e play you only get to use one supplement per character. So you have to spend your supplement use on the supplement to make the game less biologically essentialist? Is this true? I have never really thought about the organized/living campaign path stuff. Holy poo poo.
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Green Intern posted:Is this true? I have never really thought about the organized/living campaign path stuff. Holy poo poo. Adventurers League for D&D is Players Handbook + 1 other source. They make make an exception for this but who knows.
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Jun 18, 2020 15:49
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That's a really dumb rule
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Terrible Opinions posted:That's a really dumb rule Yeah... it's ostensibly for balance but some of the most powerful builds only use the PHB. Really it just makes it harder to make cool characters.
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I can understand why it exists. If you want to keep a supplement treadmill rolling but not have to worry that someone will find an inter-supplement game-breaking combo (as people do with Magic, and did with 3.x) then the +1 rule means that each supplement only needs to be checked against itself and the PHB for game-breaking shenanigans. It's a hedge that lets them keep making material without an ever-increasing amount of time being spent on balance passes.
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Kaysette posted:Yeah... it's ostensibly for balance but some of the most powerful builds only use the PHB. Really it just makes it harder to make cool characters. Cool often means not-iconic (oddly), and I think that simplicity is something you want to aim for in Organized Play. For the home game, the GM can take the time to make sure nothing's broken (doing the balance on behalf of WotC). The GMs I know who GM 5E allow characters in without approval at PHB+1, and allow any more options with review.
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The thing that I've been thinking they'd do, and honestly this makes me think it's more likely. Is release this and the Class Variant stuff they've been testing in UA as a "PHB 2". Maybe an updated Ranger Class will finally get published....
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what if they had some kind of "players handbook 2" that was also core and had the less racist things in
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90s Cringe Rock posted:what if they had some kind of "players handbook 2" that was also core and had the less racist things in That's the hope.
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Terrible Opinions posted:That's a really dumb rule It's a(n over)reaction to the alleged problem of supplement dumpster-diving, where you'd cobble together a 3e or 4e character with a bunch of different character options all taken from a dozen different supplements, which ostensibly bad because there are certain rules interactions that people might not anticipate and can break the game, and also places some practical stresses on the group or the DM either having to be familiar with the material itself to "validate" your character, or taking your word for it I do agree that it's a dumb rule, and especially since they've also said that part of the reason why 5e doesn't have as many supplements is to prevent supplement bloat so not only are they instituting a rule that marginally influences people to buy fewer books, they're also producing fewer books in general, and they're trying to play-off both of these points as Actually Good Things
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Is this the thread where we're hating on the WotC statement because I'm real mad about it. I'm almost impressed by how much nothing can be said in such a long article. On a statement about "commitment to diversity" there's nothing about BLM or Pride; in fact all the commitments to diversity say almost nothing about what groups, specifically, have been targeted for exclusion in nerd circles, which suggests to me they either don't really know what the problem is or (more likely) are spineless cowards scared of alienating their white cishet male players base. Just say you support BLM and LGBTQ+ folks, and say if someone doesn't they can Get Out. Also citing Eberron, a property now two editons old as a recent milestone of progress is lol. As is citing Mercer's campaign book, since Mercer had to mod DnD to be less problematic. It's mealy mouthed and tone deaf and I hate it.
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gradenko_2000 posted:It's a(n over)reaction to the alleged problem of supplement dumpster-diving, where you'd cobble together a 3e or 4e character with a bunch of different character options all taken from a dozen different supplements, which ostensibly bad because there are certain rules interactions that people might not anticipate and can break the game, and also places some practical stresses on the group or the DM either having to be familiar with the material itself to "validate" your character, or taking your word for it It's yet another copout to try to cover for the fact that no one working for WotC can design a roleplaying game for poo poo.
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Too bad every single edition the most obvious and terrible imbalances are baked right into the core rulebook, and it is never the supplements that are the problem except in the minds of broke-brain GMs.
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Countblanc posted:If they care about balance they shouldn't be making a game on 3.5's skeleton at all 4E is right there and feels hurt by your ignorant statement gradenko_2000 posted:so not only are they instituting a rule that marginally influences people to buy fewer books, they're also producing fewer books in general, and they're trying to play-off both of these points as Actually Good Things Oh, it gets better. I have a friend that plays AL a bunch and because of this I know that by attending certain events you can get basically special permission to include extra sources for specific characters. So there's an extra layer of paying real bucks to ignore the rules.
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Darwinism posted:Oh, it gets better. I have a friend that plays AL a bunch and because of this I know that by attending certain events you can get basically special permission to include extra sources for specific characters. So there's an extra layer of paying real bucks to ignore the rules. And they said D&D wasn't an MMO 
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