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punished milkman posted:i’m gonna read the children of time sci-fi spider people book, that sounds wicked. i read a book called a deepness in the sky many years ago that was also about sci-fi spider people and also quite good. strong genre its real good and a real "page turner" as they say
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i like to be of reading the culture books because they make me happy in my mind-brain
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Smythe posted:i like to be of reading the culture books because they make me happy in my mind-brain good ship names imho
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Smythe posted:i like to be of reading the culture books because they make me happy in my mind-brain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1tyybVuSBU
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Smythe posted:i like to be of reading the culture books because they make me happy in my mind-brain Everything else lacks a certain je ne sais quoi.
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Smythe posted:i like to be of reading the culture books because they make me happy in my mind-brain i liked the murder ship
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Epic High Five posted:good ship names imho it gives me great cognitive dissonance when i watch space x things because musk bad but his ships have culture series names which i like a LOT as it panders directly to me. e: 
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i was reading my way through the Culture series but as soon as I got to book 4, Audible pulled books 4 to 7 and didn't say why lmao, owned
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Epic High Five posted:i was reading my way through the Culture series but as soon as I got to book 4, Audible pulled books 4 to 7 and didn't say why lmao, owned yea bunch of them arent on kindle either its hosed up. gently caress you bezos
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Smythe posted:it gives me great cognitive dissonance when i watch space x things because musk bad but his ships have culture series names which i like a LOT as it panders directly to me. man that does suck, esp since it means there's a chance Musk read those books. I'd be interested to see what his takeaways were and how wildly off the mark they are despite how overt it all is
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Epic High Five posted:man that does suck, esp since it means there's a chance Musk read those books. I'd be interested to see what his takeaways were and how wildly off the mark they are despite how overt it all is i like to believe some engineer or something chose those names as placeholders early on and they stuck kuz the books own
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, I don't think we are running up against the conversation of energy at this point. https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/07/can-economic-growth-last/ https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2012/04/economist-meets-physicist/ https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/07/galactic-scale-energy/
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Smythe posted:it gives me great cognitive dissonance when i watch space x things because musk bad but his ships have culture series names which i like a LOT as it panders directly to me. edit: "utopian anarchist" https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1008120904759402501 bawfuls fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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Top City Homo posted:population growth is not responsible for deforestation, desertification and climate change. capitalism greatly accelerated the process but unrestrained population growth under any economic system will eventually lead to similar progress traps, imo
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bawfuls posted:somehow that series has convinced Elon that he's a Socialist well, im glad he liked the books.... i hope, well, dunno, whatever. lol
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bawfuls posted:Thermodynamics actually limit economic growth on the planet (even assuming a stabilization of population) within a timescale of a few centuries, maybe less. The reason energy growth has outpaced economic growth is situational and not due to thermodynamics. We have ways of producing large amounts of energy and food, the question as always is distribution. Basically, the problem as you guessed it, is the radical right-wing free-market model. It is a situation in which a command economy would absolutely be better off.
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utopian anarchism is pretty much the defining ideology of sv so he isn't kidding, it's just undergirding all that idealism is libertarian capitalists
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Ardennes posted:The reason energy growth has outpaced economic growth is situational and not due to thermodynamics. We have ways of producing large amounts of energy and food, the question as always is distribution. An assumption that does not hold under 3C of warming.
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Ardennes posted:The reason energy growth has outpaced economic growth is situational and not due to thermodynamics. We have ways of producing large amounts of energy and food, the question as always is distribution. If you posit a scenario where exponential economic growth continues indefinitely (i.e. capitalism) while energy growth stalls due to physical limits, that forces an economy where everything connected to physical limits of energy production (food, manufacturing, transportation, etc) becomes an ever-diminishing portion of the economy. This quickly becomes absurd on it's face, to the point that even the most adherent priests of capitalism (economists) will admit it if pressed. But point 1 is also important to keep in mind for any post-capitalism daydreaming. Even if we perfectly harnessed every photon of sunlight falling on the planet, or developed flawless fusion energy, we'd still reach a thermodynamic limit to energy use on the surface of the Earth. Because every Joule of energy used to some productive end is ultimately dissipated as heat. We can not escape entropy. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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We might be getting more stimulus money maybe https://twitter.com/CGasparino/status/1283847398687739904
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I need another kudlow car salesman hype video
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overmind2000 posted:We might be getting more stimulus money maybe split the difference, stimulus checks for payroll tax holiday recipients
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punished milkman posted:i’m gonna read the children of time sci-fi spider people book, that sounds wicked. i read a book called a deepness in the sky many years ago that was also about sci-fi spider people and also quite good. strong genre i read them back to back and enjoyed both, although CoT has more interesting politics. vernor vinge can be excruciatingly libertarian sometimes
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overmind2000 posted:We might be getting more stimulus money maybe we've been over this before: kudlow (and elon musk) are dumber than dogshit. Mnuchin is just smart enough to realize the need to give the poors just enough to stop them from putting his head on a spike
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overmind2000 posted:We might be getting more stimulus money maybe
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punished milkman posted:i’m gonna read the children of time sci-fi spider people book, that sounds wicked. i read a book called a deepness in the sky many years ago that was also about sci-fi spider people and also quite good. strong genre loved it. I usually hate sci-fi that isn’t space opera but I loved it, and the squid sequel.
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oxsnard posted:Mnuchin is just smart enough to realize the need to give the poors just enough to stop them from putting his head on a spike
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payroll tax cuts for the unemployed lmao god drat kudlow is a loving moron
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all this talk about the type of alphabet recovery we're in... anyone else think we're on the second peak of an M shaped recovery?
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cumshitter posted:payroll tax cuts for the unemployed lmao god drat kudlow is a loving moron I swear if you wanted to time the market for profit, just buy/sell based on whether or not kudlow's pissass drunk at 9am
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look its a carrot & stick model. if you don't get a job, you die. thats the stick. so you do get a job, and your payroll tax cut gives you enough to buy an extra carrot. thats the carrot.
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There are a huge number of systems set up with the explicit premise that people only work because the other option is destitution, starvation and death. They are designed to let people die in the streets because if you don't have a job you are a lazy unproductive deserving of nothing, and by knowing that people who are not lazy and unproductive will get jobs. It's cool that it seems like all of those still exist while a huge portion of the nation is out of work through no fault of their own and there is going to be a long lasting increase in unemployment as entire sectors are rendered impossible simultaneously overnight.
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Epic High Five posted:man that does suck, esp since it means there's a chance Musk read those books. I'd be interested to see what his takeaways were and how wildly off the mark they are despite how overt it all is His obsession with air resistance limiting the speed of factory production lines comes from Excession. But mostly he just fails to realise that he basically is Veppers, notably the scene where Veppers asks if he can 'buy a Culture ship'.
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cumshitter posted:payroll tax cuts for the unemployed lmao god drat kudlow is a loving moron
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bawfuls posted:can't wait till they compromise with a cap gains holiday I know they've been floating this idea for a while, but is there any way at all a move like this doesn't instantly crater the stock market? I feel like the stock market is the only thing Trump cares about, so I don't know how this would pass. The only scenario I can invision is some sort of retroactive clause on it so insiders can dump all their stocks before the announcement and then swoop back in when it crashes down for maximum grift.
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Rutibex posted:carrying capacity applies to animals not humans. humans can construct their own environments. we should not plan for the future as if we were animals The stupidity of this statement actually made me laugh so thanks for that. I would have thought covid would drive home how we can't ignore nature. Yes humans construct our own environment.. within the boundaries of what is possible with the resources we can extract from nature, as well as the limits of complexity that human society can maintain. gently caress it we already got a derail going on. Malthus was right. The fact that the day of reckoning got pushed back by advances in science doesn't change the fact that he was right, not unless you think science can advance forever. I think there are a lot of people who don't understand physics and think that Star Trek technology is possible and could be adopted on a wide scale as long as science keeps advancing. In that case sure we'll find a way to cram in a few more billion because that's important for some reason.
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Gazpacho posted:weird assumption itt that kudlow wants to cut both sides of the payroll tax but then they could "compromise" and cut the employee side as well like it's some grand gesture, when really it just helps their ultimate goal in cutting the tax by reducing payments into Social Security so they can later push to privatize and kill it
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