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Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

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Doc Hawkins posted:

the biotruth that you hear male pedophiles repeat about male pedophilia all the time is that their predatory desires and behaviors are natural, even universal.

in their "defense," patriarchal society reinforces this perception as much as it does a million other cases where people think they've noticed gendered behaviors.

it's not pedophilia, it's called ephebophilia and

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DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

uber_stoat posted:

I'd watch a video of a monkey jacking off.

onto an ant hill?

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

utopia is such a great conspiracy show that you can’t stream it anywhere and Amazon is remaking it to defang it’s message 👁

also the soundtrack is bangin

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe

Filthy Hans posted:

it's not pedophilia, it's called ephebophilia and

Oh I didnt know you were a libertarian.

HELLO LADIES
Feb 15, 2008
:3 -$5 :3

Bust Rodd posted:

wait uh what is the :biotruths: about pedos being dudes?

Anyone who is actually interested in a rundown of this can PM me, I'll make an effortpost and send it to whoever's interested. There's a whole lot just on the biological side, and it's really not contained to pedos. It's basically all paraphiliacs, as well as all rapists/sex criminals: which are not the same thing. Something like 50% of CSA is not committed by people we would think of as "pedos" in the sense of having any particular inclination towards children. Both "opportunistic consent violator" and "paraphiliac" (regardless of what specific paraphilia) are primarily male things, though. There's really an enormous amount of evidence for that reality to be picked up just from not having one's head up one's rear end (for example, the history of lolita fashion in Japan), but I'm a dominatrix and I have some specific insight into the mechanisms that underlie the difference that I've never seen anyone else lay out explicitly, at least.

Perry Mason Jar posted:

"Made to Penetrate" is a category that is but shouldn't be distinct from rape - which makes studies just that much harder to perform, in the end.

Prostates exist and they are as close to an "automatic orgasm" button as exists for either sex, yet the whole "cougar" porn category was invented by men, and despite the invention of birth control and viagra, condoms and same day STD testing and that whole thing where women get to own property/have jobs/money, the sex trade is still, somehow and for some bizarre reason, overwhelmingly patronized by males. I'm not even talking about pedos here, just straight up paying people to gently caress you. The slave trade in domestic servants and laborers is a huge thing for both sexes, I am in no way pretending women are not capable of being just as sociopathic as men in terms of abusing and exploiting people, but when it comes to sexual abuse, it is night and day.

I'm sorry for what happened to you, and I am not trying to argue that female pedos don't exist or even that there isn't a specific way that male victims of female rapists aren't victimized by the whole "hot for teacher" bullshit, but that's not the same as there being much of a plague of hidden female pedos. The same people who made "hurr hurr, lucky kid" jokes about Vili Fualaau are the same "people" who make "if there's grass on the field, play ball / old enough to bleed, old enough to breed" jokes, who are the same "people" who call the "people" who object to those jokes "humorless feminazis". It is males driving this, both the rape and the culture that keeps it all going.

Doc Hawkins posted:

the biotruth that you hear male pedophiles repeat about male pedophilia all the time is that their predatory desires and behaviors are natural, even universal.

Sex-based differences in prolactin, to name just one example, or the drop in androgen receptor sensitivity post-orgasm, are not remotely "biotruths".

Penises, erections, prostates, and the refractory period in males and the whole complex that goes into female arousal and orgasm, are incredibly different. Just as children are not tiny adults (a truth that is now widely acknowledged, but was first recognized and advocated for by feminists in the 1800, like Maria Montessori), the clit is not a tiny penis.

To clarify, I am absolutely not making any argument that pedophilia is natural because we all hosed at 11 on the veldt. I am specifically talking about paraphilia and consent-ignoring/violating predatory sexual behavior in males. Corpse fuckers and poo poo eaters are male, too, but I've never seen a libertarian make that argument.

HELLO LADIES has issued a correction as of 22:16 on Jul 24, 2020

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

Doc Hawkins posted:

the biotruth that you hear male pedophiles repeat about male pedophilia all the time is that their predatory desires and behaviors are natural, even universal.

in their "defense," patriarchal society reinforces this perception as much as it does a million other cases where people think they've noticed gendered behaviors.

Patriarchal society also says that a 14 yr old boy sleeping with his hot 40 yr old female teacher is sweet as all hell, luckiest kid in the world, I wish that happened to me!

It also says that men are constantly sex crazed and can't be raped because they actually always want sex and so you can assume consent. Got date raped by your frat party hook up? Sweet bro, add a notch

Edit in semi-response to the above post: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sexual-victimization-by-women-is-more-common-than-previously-known/ Female prisoners three times more likely to be raped by older female inmates than male staff. Article's worth a read.

Perry Mason Jar has issued a correction as of 22:14 on Jul 24, 2020

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

do you think it's because men are biologically pervs or because we live in a patriarchal society, and in this society, women are viewed as sex objects by some and as victims by others?

because gently caress your judgemental rear end anyway.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Seriously gently caress the patriarchy for giving assholes like you ideas about what men are and aren't, especially wrt male victims, and the idea that women cannot be abusers or predators.

You offend me.

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

oh so we are in the unironic terf phase of the thread

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Identifying a statistical trend does not mean you understand the underlying causes.

that post is some stupid terfy poo poo

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

HELLO LADIES posted:

Prostates exist and they are as close to an "automatic orgasm" button as exists for either sex, yet the whole "cougar" porn category was invented by men, and despite the invention of birth control and viagra, condoms and same day STD testing and that whole thing where women get to own property/have jobs/money, the sex trade is still, somehow and for some bizarre reason, overwhelmingly patronized by males. I'm not even talking about pedos here, just straight up paying people to gently caress you. The slave trade in domestic servants and laborers is a huge thing for both sexes, I am in no way pretending women are not capable of being just as sociopathic as men in terms of abusing and exploiting people, but when it comes to sexual abuse, it is night and day.

I don't understand this as a response to my uncontroversial statement that "made to penetrate" should not be a category distinct from rape (which is typically defined, and should be, as non-consensual sex). The first sentence seems a non-sequitor to not just what I wrote but even everything that follows (itself non-sequitor because I have no idea why you're talking about sex work in this context).

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


HELLO LADIES posted:

To clarify, I am absolutely not making any argument that pedophilia is natural because we all hosed at 11 on the veldt. I am specifically talking about paraphilia and consent-ignoring/violating predatory sexual behavior in males. Corpse fuckers and poo poo eaters are male, too, but I've never seen a libertarian make that argument.

My point was that they all live in societies which code sexual predation as male and have no way to control their observations for that. Actual researchers might study societies which don't, or make thought-provoking cross-species studies; you got any of those?

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Doc Hawkins posted:

My point was that they all live in societies which code sexual predation as male and have no way to control their observations for that. Actual researchers might study societies which don't, or make thought-provoking cross-species studies; you got any of those?

"as a dominatrix i..."

Sex work has value and merit, and workers need to be protected at all times. but that lovely opinion they have doesn't.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

ah, it is my favorite toy, the Crack-in-the-Box

*rotates handle until a punching glove with a horseshoe in it immediately flies out and cracks me in the jaw*

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

UFOs are combination of human breakaway civilization from inside Earth and a result of black-budget-programs and reverse-engineering of crashed / downed craft created by breakaway civilization.

It all originated first from the Third Reich and the NeuSchwabenLand bases under miles of ice in the Antarctic and the inside of the Earth the land of Vril Haunebu.

A letter from Admiral Karl Donitz, Admiral Byrd, Foo-Fighters, Operation HighJump - read about that and connect the dots - they all lead to the same conclusion -

the Nazi elite before WWII, during and after went to the inside of the Earth and found and enslaved there a breakaway civilization and they are the source of the "anti-UFOs in many different shapes such as saucer, bell, cigar, triangle etc. It is a fact, that there are openings to the inside of Earth at both poles. Admiral Byrd is not the only one who went there.

Also remember when few high-profile people like Orthodox Church Patriarch Kiril, Buzz Aldrin, John Kerry, Minister of Defense of New Zealand, Prince Harry of Great Britain, King Juan Carlos of Spain, Tom Hanks and possibly Barack Obama went to Antarctica? It was a diplomatic meeting with the government of NeuSchwabenLand Germans. Nothing is as it seems. Truth is stranger than fiction.

Also, interest in Lake Vostok in Antarctica is more of a military, than "scientific" nature:

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OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe
Well now we're getting into wingnut territory.

That being the most fun territory, let's loving do this. Linda Moulton Howe (author, producer, and UFO expert who pioneered investigations into cattle mutilation in the 70's) reports that she has been in contact with US military personnel who have been inside of one of the alien (for lack of a better term) ruins about 2 miles under the Antarctic ice sheet. Of note was that the ceiling was higher than the personnel could see, illuminated by glowing lines of stone running through the walls, and contain a script similar to what was reported by both witnesses to the Roswell wreckage and the research drone found in the Rendelsham Incident.

The Rendelsham Incident is one of the most fascinating in UFO lore. The short version is that a handful of US military personnel stationed in a base in the Rendelsham forest in England ran across a triangular alien-looking drone around Christmas 1989 over the course of a few days. One of these, a man named Peniston, had information uploaded to him in binary code that, when translated to ASCII characters, determined that this drone came from about two thousand years in the future and was sent to gather information to Rendelsham and a handful of other paranormal hotspots, including Nuremburg, Germany.

Nuremburg, famous for the Nazi trials, was also the site of what appears to be a UFO battle in 1561. Descriptions of the battle involve geometric shapes and metallic "shields" flying through the air shooting lightning at each other. To this day, there are sightings around Nuremburg, and some UFO researchers posit that there may be a cadre of aliens living underneath the city.

I'm forgetting a lot of details here, since I'm phone posting this off the cuff, but this poo poo gets wild when you start digging. For anyone interested in getting deeper into the UFO hole, I'd suggest Richard Dolan's UFOs For the 21st Century Mind. Dolan is one of the more sceptical researchers and is willing to call bullshit on the face of spurious claims, and that book is a great primer designed to get people who don't know much about the UFO phenomena up to speed.

All of it is a nice break from the soul crushing reality that the world is run by a bunch of active pedophiles and that there is sweet gently caress all we can do about it.

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

Admiral Ray posted:

i remember when metamaterials were starting to appear in the news or on some show with statements like "hell yeah this poo poo will eventually let us bend light AROUND an object, rendering it invisible"

wonder what happened to that stuff.

yeah Carnegie Mellon said they had developed one of these suits like 10 years ago

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

PawParole posted:

UFOs are combination of human breakaway civilization from inside Earth and a result of black-budget-programs and reverse-engineering of crashed / downed craft created by breakaway civilization.

It all originated first from the Third Reich and the NeuSchwabenLand bases under miles of ice in the Antarctic and the inside of the Earth the land of Vril Haunebu.

A letter from Admiral Karl Donitz, Admiral Byrd, Foo-Fighters, Operation HighJump - read about that and connect the dots - they all lead to the same conclusion -

the Nazi elite before WWII, during and after went to the inside of the Earth and found and enslaved there a breakaway civilization and they are the source of the "anti-UFOs in many different shapes such as saucer, bell, cigar, triangle etc. It is a fact, that there are openings to the inside of Earth at both poles. Admiral Byrd is not the only one who went there.

Also remember when few high-profile people like Orthodox Church Patriarch Kiril, Buzz Aldrin, John Kerry, Minister of Defense of New Zealand, Prince Harry of Great Britain, King Juan Carlos of Spain, Tom Hanks and possibly Barack Obama went to Antarctica? It was a diplomatic meeting with the government of NeuSchwabenLand Germans. Nothing is as it seems. Truth is stranger than fiction.

Also, interest in Lake Vostok in Antarctica is more of a military, than "scientific" nature:



this is pure content and i want more

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

OutOfPrint posted:

Actually, UFO reports, pictures, and videos have been steadily increasing for the past decade or so. No one outside of a handful of MUFON weirdos and some 90's kids like me and Tom DeLonge who grew up on Sightings and the X-Files gives a poo poo.

UFOlogy is moving past "nuts and bolts" theory popular with engineers and scientists like Stanton Friedman, in which UFOs are physical machines piloted by biological entities, and into weirder territory, ranging from the archetypal grey aliens being vat grown biological androids remotely controlled by other aliens elsewhere to aliens themselves being extradimentional entities that can only filter into this dimension with great effort and are responsible for everything ranging from fae stories to shadow people, all with the world's most tenuous evidence to back it up.

It's just that these days a global cabal of pedophile elites is more relevant, realistic, and has far more and stronger evidence for existing, the world is literally and figuratively in fire, and fascists are disappearing people in the streets, and all of that kind of sucks the air out of interest in the paranormal.

HyperNormalisation taught me that UFOs are just distractions

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

OutOfPrint posted:

Well now we're getting into wingnut territory.

That being the most fun territory, let's loving do this. Linda Moulton Howe (author, producer, and UFO expert who pioneered investigations into cattle mutilation in the 70's) reports that she has been in contact with US military personnel who have been inside of one of the alien (for lack of a better term) ruins about 2 miles under the Antarctic ice sheet. Of note was that the ceiling was higher than the personnel could see, illuminated by glowing lines of stone running through the walls, and contain a script similar to what was reported by both witnesses to the Roswell wreckage and the research drone found in the Rendelsham Incident.

The Rendelsham Incident is one of the most fascinating in UFO lore. The short version is that a handful of US military personnel stationed in a base in the Rendelsham forest in England ran across a triangular alien-looking drone around Christmas 1989 over the course of a few days. One of these, a man named Peniston, had information uploaded to him in binary code that, when translated to ASCII characters, determined that this drone came from about two thousand years in the future and was sent to gather information to Rendelsham and a handful of other paranormal hotspots, including Nuremburg, Germany.

Nuremburg, famous for the Nazi trials, was also the site of what appears to be a UFO battle in 1561. Descriptions of the battle involve geometric shapes and metallic "shields" flying through the air shooting lightning at each other. To this day, there are sightings around Nuremburg, and some UFO researchers posit that there may be a cadre of aliens living underneath the city.

I'm forgetting a lot of details here, since I'm phone posting this off the cuff, but this poo poo gets wild when you start digging. For anyone interested in getting deeper into the UFO hole, I'd suggest Richard Dolan's UFOs For the 21st Century Mind. Dolan is one of the more sceptical researchers and is willing to call bullshit on the face of spurious claims, and that book is a great primer designed to get people who don't know much about the UFO phenomena up to speed.

yaaaaaas!!

quote:

All of it is a nice break from the soul crushing reality that the world is run by a bunch of active pedophiles and that there is sweet gently caress all we can do about it.

noooooo 😔

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_tema.htm


https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/extraterrestrialbase.htm posted:

While at Muroc Air Field, Eisenhower was present while an extraterrestrial disc landed. Several Star Visitors emerged to converse with the President and the generals. The extraterrestrials requested that Eisenhower make the public aware of extraterrestrial contact with Earth forthwith.

The President protested that humans were not ready, and needed time to be prepared for adjusting to this stupendous reality.

By the end of the following month, May, 1954, President Eisenhower’s CIA Director, Walter Bedell Smith, Prince Bernhard of Netherlands, David Rockefeller and other top world financiers, later-Secretary of State Dean Rusk, later-British Minister of Defense Denis Healey, and other Western power leaders convened the inaugural meeting of the Bilderberg Group, "a means of Western collective management of the world order". [5]



One of the early items on the Bilderberg agenda was extraterrestrial contact. Shortly after establishing itself, the Bilderberg Group collaborated with the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), another international policy body devoted to world management. They discussed the problem of adjusting humankind to extraterrestrial presence.
 

Bilderberg and CFR decided jointly in the mid-1950s to enter into an arrangement with the extraterrestrials: The ETs were given an island in French Polynesia as a base on Earth.

Fleetwood has issued a correction as of 01:15 on Jul 25, 2020

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

OutOfPrint posted:

a man named Peniston

:eyepop:

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Conspiracy theories kind of fall away as Marxism and materialism does a better job of explaining the stupid world that we live in. All the cool sci-fi alien poo poo is also a harder sell once you start to find out about all the weird laws of physics in play that make reality happen. They are fun stories though.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

I do think Vannevar Bush was hiding something.

nut
Jul 30, 2019

gently caress we got from ufos to cfr, we’re so close to Jeff

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe

There's a reason why I could remember his name and not his rank.

Lostconfused posted:

Conspiracy theories kind of fall away as Marxism and materialism does a better job of explaining the stupid world that we live in. All the cool sci-fi alien poo poo is also a harder sell once you start to find out about all the weird laws of physics in play that make reality happen. They are fun stories though.

Exactly. I love all sorts of paranormal stuff (never gave a poo poo about Bigfoot, though) because it's a modern day folklore with a rich history of fun and weird stories. I believe UFOs exist, and have even been a part of a group sighting, but, as mich as I want to believe this crazy poo poo is real, that's as far as I can go without evidence.

Kind of like Epstein killing himself. I'd like to believe that he killed himself and that was that, pedophile ring over, but he was just a small, disposable cog in the great pedophillic clockwork that makes up the true machinery of power in our world.

Has Maxwell "killed herself" or "was found burned alive in her cell due to a scorching case of COVID" yet?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
https://twitter.com/dril/status/1286825924495720449?s=20

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Trabisnikof posted:

I do think Vannevar Bush was hiding something.

Vannevar BUSH???? hmmm

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

I like the conspiracy theory of the secret space program, because the idea of a black budget being used to build advanced technology instead of a free for all for grifting is v optimistic.

Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

I like the conspiracy theory of the secret space program, because the idea of a black budget being used to build advanced technology instead of a free for all for grifting is v optimistic.

ive never thought of it like that so now ill never believe

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

ufo poo poo is so cool and fun compared to the boring crap that everyone obsesses about now

a few DRUNK BONERS
Mar 25, 2016

UFO poo poo is fun because it was designed and propagated very specifically by psychologists to engage and distract people

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

a few DRUNK BONERS posted:

UFO poo poo is fun because it was designed and propagated very specifically by psychologists to engage and distract people

then why has every psychologist I’ve spoken with told me to stop focusing on ufos?

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

It's rained blood a few times, probably a huge pollen cloud caught in a storm somehow

e and fish, it rains fish sometimes, totally hosed

e and ball lightning just appears in people's houses and poo poo, sometimes it destroys things and explodes, sometimes it just noiselessly passes through things

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

a few DRUNK BONERS posted:

UFO poo poo is fun because it was designed and propagated very specifically by psychologists to engage and distract people

well they should make q fun as well then

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

OutOfPrint posted:

Nuremburg, famous for the Nazi trials, was also the site of what appears to be a UFO battle in 1561. Descriptions of the battle involve geometric shapes and metallic "shields" flying through the air shooting lightning at each other. To this day, there are sightings around Nuremburg, and some UFO researchers posit that there may be a cadre of aliens living underneath the city.

This one is cool and has some neat art associated with it.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


inferis posted:

oh so we are in the unironic terf phase of the thread

Wheeee posted:

Identifying a statistical trend does not mean you understand the underlying causes.

that post is some stupid terfy poo poo

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Inspector Hound posted:

e and ball lightning just appears in people's houses and poo poo, sometimes it destroys things and explodes, sometimes it just noiselessly passes through things
please show any sort of even mildly convincing evidence that this has actually happened.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011


seems like the aliens would have had a simpler time if they met Khrushchev and Mao

imagine how much wilder the Sino-Soviet split would have been if aliens were involved

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Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

GWBBQ posted:

please show any sort of even mildly convincing evidence that this has actually happened.

who cares its ball lightning

nerd

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