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Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Settle down Beavis.

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Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Steve Bell on Boris Johnson's trip to Scotland — Boris Johnson was accused of using the coronavirus pandemic ‘as some kind of political weapon’ by Nicola Sturgeon, against a backdrop of rising tensions over the future of the union"

Telegraph:


Matt:

Sainsbury’s and Asda say they won't enforce English face mask laws

Independent:

'A hell of a year': Tories reflect on 12 months led by Boris Johnson

Times:


Evening Standard:

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Do I have to have terminal Tory brain to see this as anything but "Scotland good and also smart".

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

"no, i can't tell you what's being censored, just trust me that it's unfair!"~little black girl~white adult man who writes for a living

Vagabong
Mar 2, 2019

Jedit posted:

But on the other hand, at least Biden's war and six figure body count weren't both inflicted on the people who voted for him.

This seems like a morally bankrupt attitude to take, that violence inflicted on people outside of a state is somehow less wrong than violence inflicted on the states own citizens.

bitey
Jul 13, 2003

Tell the truth and run.

Discendo Vox posted:

It's still the former, I think - though over time propagandists usually have trouble separating themselves from their talking points. Still, Rall's produced a variety of other written material in line with their issue frames, e.g., etc. That suggests there's likely a deliberate element to it.

As my grandmother would say, "He who pays the piper calls the tune." Or, as the Clash would say, "He who fucks nuns will later join the church."

I think Rall's Sputnik money is part of Russia's attempt to throw the 2020 election. He's an "active measure."

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Tobermory posted:

So is Rall actively trying to push Russian propaganda talking points, now that he's working for Sputnik? Or did he get hired by Sputnik because his independent output was indistinguishable from Russian talking points, and he's too broke-brained to notice?

I'm just going to re-state that cities across America are seeing massive uprisings against the police state and structural racism and all Rall does is make weak "Biden is old!" jokes.

NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009

Grape posted:

Do I have to have terminal Tory brain to see this as anything but "Scotland good and also smart".

I don't see how it's ambiguous; he's saying "Little Sturgeon doesn't do anything other than parrot the decisions Johnson makes, also her accent is funny". It's pigheaded, pointlessly rude and bears no resemblance to reality but it's not easy to misinterpret.

Thoughtless
Feb 1, 2007


Doesn't think, just types.

NRVNQSR posted:

I don't see how it's ambiguous; he's saying "Little Sturgeon doesn't do anything other than parrot the decisions Johnson makes, also her accent is funny". It's pigheaded, pointlessly rude and bears no resemblance to reality but it's not easy to misinterpret.

Oh what? I read it as "Scotland is always one step ahead", with mophead just barely starting to talk before they already established the thing in Scotland.

edit: And that Scotland tries a little too hard I guess? But distinctly in a positive way.

Thoughtless fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jul 25, 2020

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!

"Bray At Home"

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

Thoughtless posted:

Oh what? I read it as "Scotland is always one step ahead", with mophead just barely starting to talk before they already established the thing in Scotland.

edit: And that Scotland tries a little too hard I guess? But distinctly in a positive way.

Look how she’s drawn

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

:australia:

Pope:

"Labor Debt" has been the constant drumbeat from the Coalition for decades, they have used an ad truck much like this one.

Rowe:


Leak, Son of Leak:

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Stultus Maximus posted:

I'm just going to re-state that cities across America are seeing massive uprisings against the police state and structural racism and all Rall does is make weak "Biden is old!" jokes.

This one notably wasn't a "Biden is old!" joke, though

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:


"Bray At Home"

:allears: it’s beautiful

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
Those masks are gonna make it real hard for Kelly to enjoy his whiskey sours :smith:

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖
"The harshest possible ways"!!! By which we mean, people will laugh at them on Twitter and encourage others not to buy from them. Doesn't get harsher than that! No way you'll see any kind of harsher repercussions in modern day America for trying to voice your opinion in legal ways, that's definitely for sure!!!

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Songbearer posted:

Those masks are gonna make it real hard for Kelly to enjoy his whiskey sours :smith:

No way, Kelly is drinking those in the comfort of home and living his best possible life.

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!
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Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖
What way?

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Alhazred fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Jul 25, 2020

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


I would argue that for a lot of men Rambo 3 is more fitting: completely shed all vestiges of functioning socially in favour of brute force, ally with religious fanatics to kill socialists and everything will magically work out for the best and you're a HERO.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I just watched Rambo 2 and 3 again recently and it's still really amazing how the first movie turned into them.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Speaking of insane jingoistic movies: was the original red dawn ever reviewed by a military expert? I noticed many goofs but I would be interested in a further analysis of just how stupid it all is.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

By popular demand posted:

Speaking of insane jingoistic movies: was the original red dawn ever reviewed by a military expert? I noticed many goofs but I would be interested in a further analysis of just how stupid it all is.
I assumed that any kind of serious analysis of it would just begin and end with "this kind of invasion would never ever happen".

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Samurai Sanders posted:

I assumed that any kind of serious analysis of it would just begin and end with "this kind of invasion would never ever happen".

Yeah, it's just straight-up a fairy tale.

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

JustaDamnFool posted:

This seems like a morally bankrupt attitude to take, that violence inflicted on people outside of a state is somehow less wrong than violence inflicted on the states own citizens.

The Iraq War was prosecuted under false pretenses so that the US could take the moral high ground while slipping large sums to the MIC, but Saddam Hussein was a piece of poo poo and his sons were no better. What Trump is doing now in America is being Saddam Hussein. So, yes: regardless of the motives, I do consider it less wrong to overthrow a dictator than to install one.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Vib Rib posted:

What way?

Oh, you know. *racist wink*

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Samurai Sanders posted:

I just watched Rambo 2 and 3 again recently and it's still really amazing how the first movie turned into them.

I know it's the same character and all, but seriously First Blood seems to bear zero relationship to anything in the Rambo franchise beyond the title character having the same name and being played by the same actor.

I haven't watched the last one but supposedly it's horrifically bad and incredibly racist.

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:


"Bray At Home"

"6 measly feet" :vince:

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Jedit posted:

The Iraq War was prosecuted under false pretenses so that the US could take the moral high ground while slipping large sums to the MIC, but Saddam Hussein was a piece of poo poo and his sons were no better. What Trump is doing now in America is being Saddam Hussein. So, yes: regardless of the motives, I do consider it less wrong to overthrow a dictator than to install one.

The point had nothing to do with dictatorships. It was about deaths. You're windmilling.

His vote for the Iraq War, which killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, is a fine reason not to vote for Biden.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Vib Rib posted:

What way?

Whatever vile opinion Eric Allie feels unempowered to speak these days, I guess? But I'm posting this as an excuse to say that it's not clear to me that Scott Stantis actually has creative control of the strip at this point; the last few political cartoons he's posted have been unequivocally critical of Trump and the American right, and while going back through his recent work he's still got some both-sides cartoons, he weirdly seems to be drifting leftward. It would not surprise me if he's given control over to Allie and is just allowing the credit to stand. (That said, it would also not surprise me if his next comic takes a hard right-hand turn, so take this post with a shaker of salt.)

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

They show the barest bit of empathy only for people to be surprised a few days later as they delve right back into right-wing sociopathy

How is this still surprising?

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

Samurai Sanders posted:

I just watched Rambo 2 and 3 again recently and it's still really amazing how the first movie turned into them.

Rambo one still has a ton of right wing ideology in it. Rambo blames the peace movement and spreads the myth of Vietnam soldiers were called baby killers and spat upon by peace protestors. He blames government officials for not letting "us" win.

Its not quite so overtly jingoistic as the later films but it's still a very hawkish movie.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

So, public service announcement about Portland's mayor: the national news narrative about him stinks. TLDR: "Tear Gas Ted" is not throwing any bricks and the protestors hate his guts.

Portland has had protests continuously for the past 57 days. They started with a big scary night where a lot of windows were smashed in the wake of George Floyd's murder. The city instituted a curfew for the next week which gave the police a chance to use crowd control measures.

And the Portland police looove to use crowd control measures. They live it so much that a federal judge had to tell them to knock it off and use less tear gas unless it was really dangerous and there was a riot. Their response? Start declaring riots at the slightest opportunity. "Six or more people engaging in tumultuous and violent conduct" is legal justification to start firing impact munitions into a crowd and deploying tear gas into a residential neighborhood.

As you might expect, when people are protesting police brutality and the police response is additional brutality, it gives them more reason to protest. This article gives a great summary of how the protests escalated over two months and set the stage for Trump to "restore order" with federal officers because "the police couldn't handle it".

Portland's mayor Ted Wheeler also holds the role of police commissioner. He earned the nickname "Tear Gas Ted" because he refuses to rein in his police department. Unmarked DHS squads black-bagging his citizens is the best thing that ever happened to him because it allowed him to put on a strong front against Donald Trump and be interviewed by CNN as a #resistance hero. He's up for re-election this year and needs every scrap he can get.

On Wednesday he attended a protest for the first time, amid chants of "gently caress Ted Wheeler" and demands to resign. He said that he would help hold the line against the feds and stick around even once the tear gas came out. When it did (like it does every night) he got a faceful and made national headlines. He said there was no justification for the feds to use this brutal, indiscriminate weapon. But then he went back inside, and an hour later his own police department (not the feds) gassed the crowd themselves. Thanks, Ted.

A picture is worth a thousand :bravo2: though, so if you don't want to read all that then watch this perfectly edited video by Sunrise Movement:

https://twitter.com/sunrisemvmt/status/1286331119923802117

The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble
How could you write "...harshest possible ways" and not pause for a second and think "hang on, I'm talking about losing your highly paid platform for public speech, not getting your neck knelt on until you die".

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Martin Rowson on Boris Johnson's recent policies – Prime minister made comment about anti-vaxxers when rolling out free flu jabs for over-50s"

Telegraph:


Independent:

Brexit trade deal is 'unlikely' by end of the year, says Barnier After Van Gogh.

The i paper:


Times:


Stephen Collins:

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

^^^Collins is such a treat.

https://twitter.com/5five0oh4four/status/1286846840676257792?s=19

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Samurai Sanders posted:

I assumed that any kind of serious analysis of it would just begin and end with "this kind of invasion would never ever happen".

What are you talking about? The Cubans could paratroop into rural Colorado ANY DAY NOW.

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012

The Artificial Kid posted:

How could you write "...harshest possible ways" and not pause for a second and think "hang on, I'm talking about losing your highly paid platform for public speech, not getting your neck knelt on until you die".
And the irony, is he has been using his racist caricature to spout his viewpoints for years with no consequence, and has said NOTHING. Ahh, what if it is? Well what if it isn't? Maybe it's both? loving bong resin.

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By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Fister Roboto posted:

What are you talking about? The Cubans could paratroop into rural Colorado ANY DAY NOW.

Will they bring those tasty sandwiches I heard about?

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