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s*x n*mb*r 69 0.22%
w@@d n_mb_r 420 1.34%
Jeb! number 538 1.72%
Biden numbr 30330 96.72%
Total: 31357 votes
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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

At the risk of instigating leftist infighting I'm going to drop a link to one video each from a left-wing youtuber that I like in the hopes of spreading around some good content:

Quoting for future reference.

Philosophy Tube's recent Marx vs. Darwin was pretty great. And I always suggest his Marxism and Liberalism miniseries to anyone for intros into leftism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWF_0lkBhjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlLgvSduugI

They're dry, but informative and designed to speak to those unfamiliar with the topic.

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

comedyblissoption posted:

microsoft was extremely vicious and brutally stamped out alternatives during their reign of terror

extend, embrace, extinguish, etc

theyve somewhat successfully cleaned up their image and put on a mask but dont let it fool you for a second lol

they still haven't stopped - they're trying to turn Windows 10 into more and more of an app-based environment that uses their own store

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006
Can anyone recommend any socialist brochures so I can educate myself in leftism?

gradenko_2000 posted:

they still haven't stopped - they're trying to turn Windows 10 into more and more of an app-based environment that uses their own store

I hate Windows 10 so much, I wish I could function without it.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

loquacius posted:

man it must suck to be old

"It sure must!" I say, as I nervously start fiddling with my collar.

Edit: Remembering that we are discussing politics and "young" is currently defined in politics as people below 50, I get a lot less nervous.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Taintrunner posted:

Hahahah this sucks lmao



Joe Biden is literally every one of the things he just listed here

True, sadly we must vote for him.

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

comedyblissoption posted:

microsoft was extremely vicious and brutally stamped out alternatives during their reign of terror

extend, embrace, extinguish, etc

theyve somewhat successfully cleaned up their image and put on a mask but dont let it fool you for a second lol

yeah i dont think what they're doing now is a front but once nadella is gone and some ballmer clone that's been hiding out in office for the past ten years takes over the reigns we're gonna see some poo poo lol

LittleBlackCloud
Mar 5, 2007
xXI love Plum JuiceXx

galenanorth posted:

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1290115412445732864

What does the Uighur genocide have to do with TikTok being as terrible at privacy protection as every U.S. Silicon Valley company? Are they going to use the data people provide by commenting on cat videos to further that. Why not just decry the Uighur genocide in the first place?

Then he's all "anyone who knows me knows I've decried Silicon Valley's handling of privacy" but no one said anything otherwise. That doesn't have to do with rhetorical focus on a topic.

By analogy, it's like if a Democrat spent all day hammering on Palestinian violations of human rights, which exist, before retreating to "oh, you know I've criticized Israel as well", except that's imperfect because blame isn't equal on all sides on that issue and it's equal on all sides on this issue.

There are also a bunch of leftists in the comments denying that there's a Uighur genocide because of the initial reporting by an American panelist who's a born-again evangelist, ignoring that there have been a lot of articles like

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/23/china-footage-reveals-hundreds-of-blindfolded-and-shackled-prisoners-uighur

since then

Forgetting that the Guardian is at this point an extension of British Intelligence, how is that guardian article proof of Genocide? I think there are "reeducation camps". I think they are bad. However, that's a bunch of prisoners outside. You can see worse things in the US, easily.

Speaking of which, it's absolutely rich seeing any part of the US gov saying anything about prison labor. Almost any one of these people who decry uighur genocide would be clamoring for worse if we had radical unitarian churches across the border in Canada militarizing young Minnesotans.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

PoontifexMacksimus posted:

Alright, phew, Smythe, you words rang true. This matter can be laid to rest:

https://twitter.com/Rajjah/status/1211019632695554050?s=19

Worry not, your mind did not deceive you.

I read these in my tweens and I forgot abour robot Leia omega-beaming Trioculus

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

LittleBlackCloud posted:

Forgetting that the Guardian is at this point an extension of British Intelligence, how is that guardian article proof of Genocide? I think there are "reeducation camps". I think they are bad. However, that's a bunch of prisoners outside. You can see worse things in the US, easily

Yeah, it was a bad idea to cite that

How about https://apnews.com/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c instead

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

adrian zenz adrian zenz where have i heard that name before

quote:

Adrian Zenz (born 1974)[2] is a German anthropologist known for his studies on the Xinjiang re-education camps. He is a lecturer in social research methodology at the Evangelical theological institution Akademie für Weltmission [de][3][4] and a senior fellow in China studies at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.[5][4]

quote:

Zenz is a born-again Christian. He stated that he feels "led by God" in his mission.

With Marlon S. Sias, Zenz co-authored the 2012 book, "Worthy to Escape: Why All Believers Will Not Be Raptured Before the Tribulation".

Zenz advises doctoral students at the European School of Culture and Theology at the Akademie für Weltmission [de].

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

LittleBlackCloud posted:

Forgetting that the Guardian is at this point an extension of British Intelligence, how is that guardian article proof of Genocide? I think there are "reeducation camps". I think they are bad. However, that's a bunch of prisoners outside. You can see worse things in the US, easily.

Speaking of which, it's absolutely rich seeing any part of the US gov saying anything about prison labor. Almost any one of these people who decry uighur genocide would be clamoring for worse if we had radical unitarian churches across the border in Canada militarizing young Minnesotans.
westerners are concern trolling by using the term genocide without qualification to refer to destroying a peoples' culture when they know full and well the common layman's usage of the term means mass murder

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
lmao this is the narrative now

https://twitter.com/georgetakei/status/1290390903639728129?s=21

how loving embarrassing

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

LittleBlackCloud posted:

Forgetting that the Guardian is at this point an extension of British Intelligence, how is that guardian article proof of Genocide? I think there are "reeducation camps". I think they are bad. However, that's a bunch of prisoners outside. You can see worse things in the US, easily.

Speaking of which, it's absolutely rich seeing any part of the US gov saying anything about prison labor. Almost any one of these people who decry uighur genocide would be clamoring for worse if we had radical unitarian churches across the border in Canada militarizing young Minnesotans.

That literally is a genocide though.

The US and Canada have done the same thing to native americans and continue some efforts.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

comedyblissoption posted:

westerners are concern trolling by using the term genocide without qualification to refer to destroying a peoples' culture when they know full and well the common layman's usage of the term means mass murder

Are they also concern trolling when they insist that leftist and liberal don't mean the same thing?

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Taintrunner posted:

lmao this is the narrative now

https://twitter.com/georgetakei/status/1290390903639728129?s=21

how loving embarrassing
lol at all the mounting evidence liberals are loving terrified trump would mercilessly dunk on a dotard who literally cant read off a teleprompter

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Or is that "sealioning"? Which one's the one where you're just making a perfectly valid argument but I don't like it?

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

comedyblissoption posted:

westerners are concern trolling by using the term genocide without qualification to refer to destroying a peoples' culture when they know full and well the common layman's usage of the term means mass murder

It's inconsistent that it's "beyond the pale" in our national discourse to use that term "genocide" and "concentration camps" to apply to what's going on at our southern border, on that basis of meeting dictionary definitions but not common layman's usage, come to think of it

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

docbeard posted:

Or is that "sealioning"? Which one's the one where you're just making a perfectly valid argument but I don't like it?

The original sealioning comic can easily be construed as being extremely racist which I think is a bit telling.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

comedyblissoption posted:

lol at all the mounting evidence liberals are loving terrified trump would mercilessly dunk on a dotard who literally cant read off a teleprompter

come back, Fame Douglas

I want to hear your take on this tweet

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

quibbling about what genocide means to you or some particular academic or activist isnt the point. the person on the street hears the word genocide without qualification and they automatically think mass murdering people.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Fame Douglas posted:

Except so far, Trump hasn't accepted the invitation. So it's literally Trump not wanting to debate Biden.

Also, Trump is terrible at any kind of debate.

Sight your source.

The Biden campaign has been pushing op eds saying that he shouldn't debate Trump for months.

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007

Genocide seems appropriate when they are sterilizing people.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
loving lol, they actually are going to try to slip Biden through without a debate.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Taintrunner posted:

lmao this is the narrative now

https://twitter.com/georgetakei/status/1290390903639728129?s=21

how loving embarrassing

It was kinda a joke early on that they were literally going to hide him for the campaign but it's becoming more and more clear they are going to try and see if they can elect a disembodied name.

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
do hunter vs. trump jr debates

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

https://twitter.com/ResistWaveNow/status/1290384242170445824

(this is almost definitely satire)

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

No one wants a debate because they understand that there's no surer way of making it clear that neither of these people are capable of carrying on a basic conversation at this point.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

docbeard posted:

No one wants a debate because they understand that there's no surer way of making it clear that neither of these people are capable of carrying on a basic conversation at this point.

I don't think the Trump camp really has a problem with that, seeing as that is entirely on brand, while Biden is supposed to be a "normal" president as seen in such movies as Independence Day.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the US media never talks about US supported genocidal mass murder with the same vigor and coverage even when it is happening contemporaneously, so it is most definitely concern trolling

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1290643916828680192?s=20

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



If both candidates want the debates cancelled, it seems dumb to put yourself in the position of the one smugly saying its unnecessary. Leaves a huge opening for trump to demand a proof of life or go off about how Biden is a coward who knows he can't sell the public on why hes better, etc etc


Fame Douglas posted:

"Breadtube" "ancap" "nazbol"

Why has political discussion become so moronic.


Sorry the facts don't align with your feelings.

You should watch that gender swapped reenactment of the debate to shake up your unexamined biases and then maybe you'll see that trump killed it at the debates and clearly won in the ways that matter

Zvahl
Oct 14, 2005

научный кот

Epic High Five posted:

If both candidates want the debates cancelled, it seems dumb to put yourself in the position of the one smugly saying its unnecessary. Leaves a huge opening for trump to demand a proof of life or go off about how Biden is a coward who knows he can't sell the public on why hes better, etc etc

Donald Trump debating Joseph Biden 2020, Jean-Paul Laurens (1870)

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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007


Man, they are really going hard on the red scare tactics, huh?

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDTwO0TlwOU

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


There's no way the guy who said horrible factory worker deaths in other countries is the the price of progress isn't the loving king of the NIMBYs.

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
yimbys and nimbys are a false dichotomy. both of those groups are racist yuppies.

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Matt wrote a yellow peril book lol.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
lol America has been in decline for decades

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
https://mobile.twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1290362113555390465

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


drat Rasmussen must have his black approval rating at 60 percent now.

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