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On a slightly lighter note, I was explaining that explosion to a co-worker and when I said it was likely ammonium nitrate, she said "is that like amyl nitrite? I used to huff that poo poo."
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Aug 4, 2020 21:52
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bonelessdongs posted:I hate to say it but it's a shame it didn't happen in America and give us the greatest CSB video of all time a few years down the line Brown Moses posted:It's very OSHA by the sounds of it
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Aug 4, 2020 21:56
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Julius CSAR posted:5.9 kilotons would be the largest man made non nuclear explosion ever holy crap take any estimate with a grain of salt, even one like this that looks accurate and is well reasoned that amount of ammonium nitrate wouldn't be capable of producing an explosion near that size, but on the other hand who knows what else was being stored nearby that may have detonated at the same time
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Aug 4, 2020 21:57
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2700 tons of oxidizer...but how many tons of fuel?
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Aug 4, 2020 22:02
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Marcade posted:On a slightly lighter note, I was explaining that explosion to a co-worker and when I said it was likely ammonium nitrate, she said "is that like amyl nitrite? I used to huff that poo poo." 
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Aug 4, 2020 22:05
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Different kind of big bang.
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Aug 4, 2020 22:07
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Azathoth posted:take any estimate with a grain of salt, even one like this that looks accurate and is well reasoned Oh absolutely
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Aug 4, 2020 22:09
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mobby_6kl posted:^^^ do you... do you really believe that buildings are air tight? Think about your answer before you post again please.
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Aug 4, 2020 22:11
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CleverHans posted:Uh, you know N2 /= N2O right? I knew they were different but the instructions say it's possible, so I'm doing it! Probably... If the local growler place has something that seems like it would benefit from a gas other than CO2.
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Aug 4, 2020 22:17
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Aug 4, 2020 22:20
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"We've already started arresting all the vaguely ethnic looking people outside of the office just in case it was terrorism"
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Aug 4, 2020 22:22
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Nitrate wouldn't just go up on its own, at least not like that - it'd need some sort of fuel
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Aug 4, 2020 22:27
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Drone_Fragger posted:do you... do you really believe that buildings are air tight? Think about your answer before you post again please. Maybe you should think about your answer first.
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Aug 4, 2020 22:31
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zegermans posted:Nitrate wouldn't just go up on its own, at least not like that - it'd need some sort of fuel Can ammonium nitrate form a dust cloud? If so, a single spark could make it go boom. Would also need the Big ol’ pile o fertilizer to be agitated to form a dust cloud of course. Moving it perhaps. Or some other combustible particulate in the near vicinity. E: the Guardian says about 80% of the country’s grain goes through that port. The entire place is potentially filled with combustible particulate clouds. So spark hits cloud of grain dust, it combusts and x tons of fertilizer dynamite nearby explode 
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Aug 4, 2020 22:36
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zegermans posted:Nitrate wouldn't just go up on its own, at least not like that - it'd need some sort of fuel It does though. Ammonium nitrate is a high explosive all on its own, it's just incredibly desensitized.
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Aug 4, 2020 22:40
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twitter side bar is way topical i thought that was a hotel next to the blast, its silos. and theyre still standing. i thought they got exploded when i saw the video, the blast just wraps around them and completely distorts vision im seeing a lot of nanny cam vids of people going to help their kids, or in one case, a nanny going to protect her employers kid. no deaths in the vids but still, you have no idea whats going on in that moment
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Aug 4, 2020 22:41
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zegermans posted:Nitrate wouldn't just go up on its own, at least not like that - it'd need some sort of fuel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_nitrate_disasters It's far, far from unheard of.
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mobby_6kl posted:I don't think we've seen it from the water side yet
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Aug 4, 2020 22:44
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zegermans posted:Nitrate wouldn't just go up on its own, at least not like that - it'd need some sort of fuel I thought that, too, when the first reports said sodium nitrate. That stuff won't explode, it needs a fuel. Later it was said to be ammonium nitrate, which will indeed explode. The ammonium ion acts as a fuel.
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Aug 4, 2020 22:54
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Brown Moses posted:It's very OSHA by the sounds of it well, nobody's stealing it now
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Aug 4, 2020 23:35
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Made for another thread
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Aug 4, 2020 23:44
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If that 2,700 tons figure is correct its about 3x the size of the Texas City explosion and 10x the size of the West, Texas explosion 
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Aug 4, 2020 23:50
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bonelessdongs posted:Made for another thread 
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Aug 4, 2020 23:52
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zegermans posted:Nitrate wouldn't just go up on its own, at least not like that - it'd need some sort of fuel Ammonium nitrate on its own will happily decompose into N2, O2, and water vapor.
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Aug 4, 2020 23:54
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Leaving kilotons of poorly-stored explosives in a warehouse for years because of red tape and bureaucratic inertia is a terrifyingly plausible OSHA story. I can only imagine the cycle of "somebody else's problem" passing the buck around because it would be a pain in the rear end to actually transport or dispose of it properly.
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Aug 4, 2020 23:57
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The Glumslinger posted:If that 2,700 tons figure is correct its about 3x the size of the Texas City explosion and 10x the size of the West, Texas explosion But still significantly smaller than the Halifax Explosion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion 
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Aug 4, 2020 23:58
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The Glumslinger posted:If that 2,700 tons figure is correct its about 3x the size of the Texas City explosion and 10x the size of the West, Texas explosion The Oklahoma City bombing used two (2) tons of the same stuff.
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Aug 5, 2020 00:04
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https://twitter.com/HachemYassin/status/1290702640930791424 we're going to play pass the parcel, and if the music stops when it's on your desk, your prize is you get hosed
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Aug 5, 2020 00:20
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Apparently that port is where most of the grain consumed by Lebanon comes in. They're already having food security issues. This is going to be an absolute disaster beyond the initial blast.
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Aug 5, 2020 00:22
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bonelessdongs posted:Made for another thread 
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Aug 5, 2020 00:25
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Aug 5, 2020 00:32
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There is an entire wikipedia article for ammonium nitrate disasters and  https://twitter.com/swolecialism/status/1290778488144789504
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Aug 5, 2020 00:41
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We were talking about this and my dad told us about the time he was working at a chemical plant and the conveyor to the ammonium nitrate storage was on fire and if it had made it in there, it would have blown up half the town.
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The Glumslinger posted:If that 2,700 tons figure is correct its about 3x the size of the Texas City explosion and 10x the size of the West, Texas explosion Texas city had less fertilizer but was a bigger and more devastating explosion because the ship acted as a pressure vessel and was filled with explosive gas thanks to the misguided firefighting tactics of the ship’s captain. They’re lucky the warehouse full of poo poo here was basically an empty box open to the atmosphere.
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https://twitter.com/business/status/1290788874416009216?s=20
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Memento posted:https://twitter.com/HachemYassin/status/1290702640930791424 poo poo was just sitting there for seven years?
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Aug 5, 2020 01:10
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Since Trump has the mind of a child I imagine his eyes glazed over and he stopped listening to all the boring explanations about grain silos and chemicals he couldn't pronounce. He was hoping it was war, because that's more exciting, so he asks "Is it possible this was an attack? Like a bomb?" "Well it's not impossible so I suppose there's a small chance this could be some kind of attack, yes." "I knew it, they love bombs in Libya." "Beirut is in Lebanon, sir." "That's what I said, Lebyanon."
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https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1290782284686266372?s=19
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Normally, id say fake. But well its 2020.
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