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Cessna posted:Would buying a Necron Codex (to use for the stuff in Indomitus plus potential add-ons) be dumb? Is a new one due out soon? Yes and yes.
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Cessna posted:Would buying a Necron Codex (to use for the stuff in Indomitus plus potential add-ons) be dumb? Is a new one due out soon? The new one is out in October, just wait until then. If you're going to play games in the mean time, all the rules you need are in battlescribe
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moths posted:I mean they are, in the same way the 8e codexes are. But will that last beyond October when the new Marines book hits? They said the important stuff will be in the codexes. So its probably everything youd care about anyway. Like name generators. (In all seriousness youd probably just be buying it for the fluff in the long term)
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Somberbrero posted:Yes and yes. Kitchner posted:The new one is out in October, just wait until then. If you're going to play games in the mean time, all the rules you need are in battlescribe Thanks. I'm going to give my son the 'Crons, and if he wants to make them into a full army I want to support him.
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Aug 13, 2020 20:10
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SpaceViking posted:They're probably counting Faith and Fury as their equivalent 8th supplement. They're getting new base rules in the Marine codex at least, and they previewed a subtle change that allows them to reroll advance rolls in addition to charges plays very well into the Faith and Fury strat that lets them advance and charge. Still, even Crimson Fists get more than Templars and at least get to share good stuff from the Fists supplement. Throw me a fuckin bone GW there are for sure more Templar players than Crimson Fist players after all these years of being supported. I'm mostly expecting I have to wait until they have a new templars character model (primaris EC or whatever) to package along with a supplement dex to combine that models / rules release cycle tendency.
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Aug 13, 2020 20:38
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PinheadSlim posted:Do we have any stats on normal tac/assault/devastator marines? I'm kind of wondering if all small marines are going to be veterans from here on out. They'll get two wounds and longer range bolters. Presumably scouts are the only marines staying at 1. Not sure what that'll mean for Black Templars.
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Aug 13, 2020 20:39
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One would assume they too get 2 wounds and all those goodies on the virtue of them being marines.  I mean the bigger question is what the other xenos armies get.
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Cooked Auto posted:One would assume they too get 2 wounds and all those goodies on the virtue of them being marines. Purged.
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Aug 13, 2020 22:17
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I wonder if Custodes will get 4 wounds.
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Gunder posted:I wonder if Custodes will get 4 wounds. or Grey Knight Paladins.
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GoLambo posted:They're getting new base rules in the Marine codex at least, and they previewed a subtle change that allows them to reroll advance rolls in addition to charges plays very well into the Faith and Fury strat that lets them advance and charge. I'm a Templars guy and have been pretty happy since Faith and Fury came out. Sure, it's not as much content as the other Chapters got, but they got some crazy good litanies, relics and strategies. They are also benefiting more than the shooty chapters by the changes in 9th and the new Indomitus units. I'm with you though on the models though - I need a Primaris Emperor's Champion or Grimaldus in the worst way.
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Cooked Auto posted:One would assume they too get 2 wounds and all those goodies on the virtue of them being marines. A slightly bigger army for a few months
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Aug 13, 2020 23:35
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Just double everyone's wounds. Give knights 50 wounds each, why not
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Aug 13, 2020 23:45
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Werix posted:Man, that is all super great news for my favorite dusty bois. Two wound rubrics with two damage warpfire bolters AND 12" on their warp flamers are nice. Also leads me to believe those 3 wounds on terminators will come to scarab occult too Wouldn’t it just be the chain cannon that’s in line for D2? We’ve seen storm bolsters are still 1 damage.
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I don't think GW wants to support the Black Templars anymore because of optics. Maltese cross and dudes in black armor. The faction does seem to attract some bad elements, the Deus Vult types. Not accusing or pointing fingers but I do see why they would like them to go away.
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Aug 14, 2020 00:02
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They were the 3e posterboys and are the embodiment of space knights. They're not going anywhere.
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NUMBER 1 FULCI FAN posted:Just double everyone's wounds. Give knights 50 wounds each, why not I wonder if the theory is increase space marine wounds, increase heavy and special weapon damage, and then it's a bit more granular between a Guardsmen or a T'au Fire Warrior and a Space Marine but you can still blast apart space marines with special weapons.
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Aug 14, 2020 00:08
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Paddyo posted:I'm with you though on the models though - I need a Primaris Emperor's Champion or Grimaldus in the worst way. Primaris Emperor's Champion Conversion Grimaldus should be easy enough with either Primaris Chaplain model and a BT upgrade sprue. Or maybe you want the official datasheets. I'd rather see a new Primaris Marshal ala Captain Lazarus. Make him a marine of color to upset the chuds.
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Aug 14, 2020 00:14
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 There's an article to go with that amazing picture, but it's not great, including because it amplifies that idiot. https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/...pVfWsOjrMr0zHHI
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Aug 14, 2020 00:15
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Maneck posted:
Why the gently caress would you ever let that human slime mold say that he’s “apolitical” and not immediately follow up with his on record fascist apologia? What the gently caress, I mean don’t include him but if you have to mention a notable bad actor don’t let them dictate how you frame them.
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Aug 14, 2020 00:23
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They do mention the leaks from his discord, and his use of racist, facist etc terms.
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Aug 14, 2020 00:27
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Mortifiers to get even more hilarious
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Yeah but I read the leaks and I think they softened it. Like they talk about his hateful comments about sami people but they don’t mention his genocidal rhetoric that was part of the same exchange.
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akulanization posted:Why the gently caress would you ever let that human slime mold say that he’s “apolitical” and not immediately follow up with his on record fascist apologia? What the gently caress, I mean don’t include him but if you have to mention a notable bad actor don’t let them dictate how you frame them. They literally say they pointed this out to him and he says that only extreme tankies would get offended at his "jokes". Honestly, they shouldn't have even mentioned him in the article, just stop giving these racist fucks any air time.
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Legendary Ptarmigan posted:Primaris Emperor's Champion Conversion Yeah, I made my own too. He still can't ride in the Repulsor.
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Aug 14, 2020 00:41
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Oski posted:Purged. I'll just pop my orks back into the garage.
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the extra wound feels more like GW finally getting the memo that a 3+ save in 40k is nowhere near as effective as a 3+ save in the previous editions or even AoS to denote an "elite" unit.
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I always take a unit of 5 heavy bolter long fangs with a pack leader this is great stuff.
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Heavy Bolters are just visually and thematically rad as gently caress. I say this before my Eldar get mowed down
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tangy yet delightful posted:Heavy Bolters are just visually and thematically rad as gently caress. I say this before my Eldar get mowed down Yeah I only take them because they're awesome. I always wished they had a boost so this rules (pending wound changes across the board I guess).
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Is there a cool guy discord for getting list advice, or if someone that plays Ultramarines I can DM? I hit up the goonhammer articles, but still feel like idk what I'm doing.
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Alokgen posted:Is there a cool guy discord for getting list advice, or if someone that plays Ultramarines I can DM? I hit up the goonhammer articles, but still feel like idk what I'm doing. I mean you can always post questions here and people will do their best to help. What are you struggling with?
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Paddyo posted:Yeah, I made my own too. He still can't ride in the Repulsor. Goddamn those purity seals indeed. I'm still kind of hoping against hope that with this marines getting 2 wounds thing that GW will finally loving relent on the primaris vs regular marines in transports distinction and just let them all ride, with gravis and termies being 2 models per etc. I just want to put primaris in land raiders, and dont want to run non primaris infantry for a variety of reasons. It's free money GW, just do it.
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GoLambo posted:Goddamn those purity seals indeed. No it's the opposite of that because if you can put your Primaris infantry in rhinos or land raiders then fewer people will feel compelled to buy the new hover versions. If your opponent is a reasonable human you could talk about adding the relevant keywords to transports for open or narrative play.
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Kitchner posted:I mean you can always post questions here and people will do their best to help. What are you struggling with? I've been out of the game since 5th, so my sense of how the game is played and what is considered good is all outta wack. I don't know how to judge when and where I'd rather use intercessors, or infiltrators, or incursors (the coolest looking ones) and how those decision impact other aspects of list building. From what I've gather online, ultramarines for example, general favor shooty lists that can disengage from melee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this usually means intercessors, aggressors, and inceptors, all of which are using some variation of bolters. When do I know I'm being too redundant and once you build a solid core, how do you branch off an all-comers list? So far I've come up with this for 1000 points that I can hopefully build off of; + HQ + Primaris Chaplain: 2. Catechism of Fire, 5. Recitation of Focus, Litany of Hate, March for Macragge, Stratagem: Master of Sanctity Primaris Lieutenant (Indomitus): Warlord + Troops + Intercessor Squad: Bolt rifle 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades Intercessor Sergeant Intercessor Squad: Bolt rifle 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades Intercessor Sergeant Intercessor Squad: Bolt rifle 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades Intercessor Sergeant + Elites + Aggressor Squad: 4x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher + Fast Attack + Inceptor Squad: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant, Plasma Exterminator x2 Inceptor Squad: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant, Plasma Exterminator x2 ++ Total: [48 PL, 5CP, 1,000pts] ++ It seems fine enough to me, but I get wildly different advice about adding firstborn marines (not gonna happen), terminators(also not gonna happen), assault intercessors - why them over normal intercessors, or infiltrates?
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Legendary Ptarmigan posted:No it's the opposite of that because if you can put your Primaris infantry in rhinos or land raiders then fewer people will feel compelled to buy the new hover versions. I feel like that was relevant for 8th and I can only hold it against them so much, but if they're getting around beefing up oldmarines they can sell new/returning players like me that don't have a previous edition backlog on some older well loved models. They're certainly not going to take my advice, but I do think it's at least possible they've considered this. If only just land raiders which can hold terminators anyway, I would be happy.
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GoLambo posted:I feel like that was relevant for 8th and I can only hold it against them so much, but if they're getting around beefing up oldmarines they can sell new/returning players like me that don't have a previous edition backlog on some older well loved models. They're certainly not going to take my advice, but I do think it's at least possible they've considered this. If only just land raiders which can hold terminators anyway, I would be happy. As a player getting into the hobby I can say that I had no plans to ever buy a Rhino, or Razorback, and basically no interest in regular marines. I’m much more likely to buy some if they aren’t completely segregated.
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