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Astroman posted:Now I want to read a version of that episode starring the TOS cast. It was called "Arena"
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END CHEMTRAILS NOW posted:Including times that haven't even occurred yet. Gives you something to look forward to. You're shopping for a new house and recognize the bathroom from a prophet-vision of you somehow trapping your balls under the toilet seat as you sat down. Do you see if its possible to cause a paradox and miss out on your dream house? Do you sit down carefully for the rest of your life because this could be the time? Do you cram them in there and jump on the seat to try and get it over with, hoping that they really showed you all the times you sat on your balls? Months later your wife catches you in the garage holding a hammer and placing your balls on the workbench. "A man chooses, a slave obeys..."
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Aug 13, 2020 22:38
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My favorite episode from TNG (actually from all of Trek) is Season 2 and rarely brought up: "A Matter of Honor"
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Aug 13, 2020 22:52
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Sarcastr0 posted:My favorite episode from TNG (actually from all of Trek) is Season 2 and rarely brought up: "A Matter of Honor"
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Aug 13, 2020 23:21
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FlamingLiberal posted:Really? I think it's OK but it's kind of middle of the road for me. I like Riker trying all the Klingon food I like Riker figuring out how to Speice Viking I like Worf being like ' do...you know what you're in for, sir?' I like the 'Gagh is best eaten live' Riker going big or going home I like Riker's flirting getting the Klingons on board with Riker being awesome I like Mordok being a great guy but culturally not integrating into the crew in lots of ways. I like the weird subatomic space disease that's cured by a tunneling neutron beam, as one does I like Riker tricking the captain with his Macguffin. And I like the conclusion about knowing when not to duck. I like my Trek light in tone and multicultural. And like many I'm a big Riker fan.
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Sarcastr0 posted:I like Riker trying all the Klingon food i should watch that one again
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Aug 14, 2020 00:02
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I think by far the best part of s1 TNG was the weird soundtrack.
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oh but seriously I posted:i should watch that one again  
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Aug 14, 2020 00:35
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"Frakes, you're gonna want to skip breakfast today. You will not believe the poo poo they have for you to eat."
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Aug 14, 2020 00:42
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I like the edit where Riker tosses a Klingon into a control panel and then the whole ship loving explodes
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Aug 14, 2020 01:02
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Sir Lemming posted:Pfffft naw, I liked that. I mean the scene as a whole is unnecessary in a few ways, and maybe a different arrangement of the theme would've been better. But like, they didn't even use the theme in "All Good Things". C'mon! It would have been fantastic if all the incidental music and musical cues in the flashback scenes in All Good Things were bombastic TNG style.
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Lmao at the thought of bringing back Ron Jones just to do season 1 synth scores only for the past portions of AGT.
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Now I'm imagining someone getting their hands on all the raw TNG footage and doing an edit with new soundtracks and montages BSG style.
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Astroman posted:It would have been fantastic if all the incidental music and musical cues in the flashback scenes in All Good Things were bombastic TNG style. Oh god I want this edit so bad.
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Aug 14, 2020 10:41
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I've been casually watching some Voyager recently as it's the definition of "background TV", and that Renegade Cut video got me thinking that maybe I'd been too harsh on it. Got to say I'm feeling pretty secure in my opinion of Voyager still. Anyway, I thought I'd go through the Borg episodes first, and while it's obviously a very common complaint, I was still shocked at how heavily it "nerfs" the Borg, and how quickly. In Scorpion, literally the first episode where they encounter the Borg, something they've built up to over three seasons, there is an amazing lack of tension from the characters over the fact that they are about to face Starfleet's most terrifying enemy. When Janeway suggests an alliance (something that should be an insane idea at first) the rest of the crew are basically fine with it, though Chakotay voices some concerns in private. Compared to, say, the build up to the battle in DS9's Sacrifice of Angels and it's night and day. The cold open of the next time Voyager encounters the Borg is literally them clowning on and blowing up a Borg ship. That Renegade Cut video argues that this nerfing was inevitable since there was no where else to go with the Borg, and maybe he has a point, in abstract. But there's so much more threat they could have wrung out of the Borg, and instead they immediately go headfirst into the Borg being no big deal.
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Comrade Fakename posted:That Renegade Cut video argues that this nerfing was inevitable since there was no where else to go with the Borg, and maybe he has a point, in abstract. But there's so much more threat they could have wrung out of the Borg, and instead they immediately go headfirst into the Borg being no big deal. I agree that it was probably inevitable but you’re right that it didn’t have to be immediately after they meet the Borg. It’s a constant problem with Voyager. You have interesting premises to write with, but they’re challenging to do, so the writers just take the easy way out.
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MikeJF posted:Seriously though make sure you watch the season 2 episodes Measure of a Man and Q-Who. You'll also want The Emissary because that introduces a character you'll see later. But for funsies, you'll want Peak Performance and The Royale. And if you can't enjoy Contagion or even Up the Long Ladder then I don't even know what to tell you.
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Aug 14, 2020 12:32
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Nobody should ever watch Up the Long Ladder, it has no redeeming value
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L54GYRcxSM&t=268s this guy is real fun and you should probably not listen to only the part i linked, but you should definitely listen to at minimum what he does from that point on in that clip.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Nobody should ever watch Up the Long Ladder, it has no redeeming value I like the hot Irish lady and her yelling at her idiot relatives
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Aug 14, 2020 14:41
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John Wick of Dogs posted:I like the hot Irish lady and her yelling at her idiot relatives
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Aug 14, 2020 15:42
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V-Men posted:But for funsies, you'll want Peak Performance and The Royale. Peak Performance holds up all right as an episode, but The Royale is a lot less fun than it ought to be. The pacing just draaaaags. Aside from a very few memorable moments, it feels like the episode is about 75% padding and filler.
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Aug 14, 2020 16:18
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I was watching The Inner Light the other day and something bothered me: They comment about how primitive the probe is, made of ceramics and it uses a fuel propellant. And Picard's program shows their society as just beginning to launch rockets. YET the probe is advanced enough to have some kind of computer aboard that can detect alien ships, keep pace with the Enterprise when it tries to move away, not to mention the mind link technology. Something tells me the simulation was, while touching, not at all an accurate representation of that culture.
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Mylan posted:I was watching The Inner Light the other day and something bothered me: They comment about how primitive the probe is, made of ceramics and it uses a fuel propellant. And Picard's program shows their society as just beginning to launch rockets. YET the probe is advanced enough to have some kind of computer aboard that can detect alien ships, keep pace with the Enterprise when it tries to move away, not to mention the mind link technology. Something tells me the simulation was, while touching, not at all an accurate representation of that culture.
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I actually really like the Kevin Uxbridge episode. Maybe because I'm a man of special conscience
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John Wick of Dogs posted:I actually really like the Kevin Uxbridge episode. Maybe because I'm a man of special conscience good tea, nice house
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Mylan posted:I was watching The Inner Light the other day and something bothered me: They comment about how primitive the probe is, made of ceramics and it uses a fuel propellant. And Picard's program shows their society as just beginning to launch rockets. YET the probe is advanced enough to have some kind of computer aboard that can detect alien ships, keep pace with the Enterprise when it tries to move away, not to mention the mind link technology. Something tells me the simulation was, while touching, not at all an accurate representation of that culture. A possible explanation is that they didn't really care about developing their rocket/space exploration technology until they realized their planet was doomed, and that is why its so primitive compared to their other technologies.
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Aug 14, 2020 16:43
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Hell, maybe they're only just starting with rockets because their planet's too big. If Earth was slightly larger than it is we wouldn't be able to reach orbit without nuclear propulsion. Or maybe they're just really good at brain beams. Early breakthrough.
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Yeah, that's an interesting concept that would have been nice to explore more. Planets can very wildly and still be generally in habitable by similar lifeforms to us. They did it a little bit, but they seemed to focus on evolutionary changes rather than how it affected society. If mars had a functioning magnetic field, it might still have a breathable atmosphere to this day and you only weigh 38% of what you would here. Such a society might never have used hydrocarbons (if they had them) to power flight since the energy requirements wouldn't have been as high. But without all the research into internal combustion, would they have developed chemical propulsion at all like rockets?
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MikeJF posted:Hell, maybe they're only just starting with rockets because their planet's too big. If Earth was slightly larger than it is we wouldn't be able to reach orbit without nuclear propulsion. They put all their research points into brain beam technology but neglected the rocketry programs until it was too late 
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I remember the writer of The Inner Light wrote a webcomic sequel, which was of course called "The Outer Light". I remember it was terrible. IIRC the Enterprise comes across a ship with Picard's family from the simulation, they say something along the lines of 'of course we're a space faring people, we made that incredibly advanced probe didn't we'. Then the Romulans show up and they trap them in a simulation where the Romulans win and take over the Enterprise, turning the bridge into a strip club for some reason. Seems to have been scrubbed from the internet though, can't find it anywhere.
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Veotax posted:I remember the writer of The Inner Light wrote a webcomic sequel, which was of course called "The Outer Light". I remember it was terrible.
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Veotax posted:I remember the writer of The Inner Light wrote a webcomic sequel, which was of course called "The Outer Light". I remember it was terrible. It’s not been scrubbed that hard - I found it on a Google search for “The Outer Light” “Star Trek”: http://treksinscifi.com/podcast_notes/?p=2292 (Edit: Okay, that site didn’t have it all, but a quick GIS of the first page turned up https://m.imgur.com/gallery/UWlKL which has the whole thing) Trevellian fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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I'll admit, I didn't try too hard. I think I just Googled "The Outer Light" and the first few sites didn't have it, inducing the site it was originally posted on. Taking a look at it, yep, still terrible.
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Powered Descent posted:Peak Performance holds up all right as an episode, but The Royale is a lot less fun than it ought to be. The pacing just draaaaags. Aside from a very few memorable moments, it feels like the episode is about 75% padding and filler. That makes sense since the in-universe novel the simulation is based on is 75 percent padding and filler. John Wick of Dogs posted:I like the hot Irish lady and her yelling at her idiot relatives I love when she's all "what haven't you ever seen a lady before" and Riker is all "I've got something for this oh yeah. I thought I had."
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I thought I had is a hell of a pick up line
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Veotax posted:I'll admit, I didn't try too hard. I think I just Googled "The Outer Light" and the first few sites didn't have it, inducing the site it was originally posted on. Yeeeeaah..... I can see why you didn’t look too hard for it, that’s pretty rough!
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John Wick of Dogs posted:I actually really like the Kevin Uxbridge episode. Maybe because I'm a man of special conscience Wait who was talking poo poo about this one?
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Insane Totoro posted:Wait who was talking poo poo about this one? Yeah I thought The Survivors was one of the universally agreed upon Good Ones.
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