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Aug 14, 2020 12:10
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Mega64 posted:I'M CUTTING OFF GOD'S HEAD WITH A CHAINSAW
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Aug 14, 2020 12:12
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Spinning off the killing God convo, what's the most humorous/crazy way to kill God in an RPG?
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Aug 14, 2020 12:18
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Indivisible you attack and change the mind of God, who explicitly can make and unmake the world, and I think is the closest I can get to "fight in combat the no fooling maker of all reality".
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Aug 14, 2020 12:31
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you can own Myrkul pretty hard in NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer, but he was already dead so maybe that doesn't count
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Aug 14, 2020 12:32
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gods in the forgotten realms (aka NWNs) are just high level clerics really so it doesn't count
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Aug 14, 2020 13:17
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multijoe posted:Star Ocean 3 This is actually probably the most clear cut case of the party in a JRPG attacking and dethroning god that I can think of.
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Aug 14, 2020 13:19
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Shin Megami Tensei DDS Im pretty sure the God you fight at the end is the maker of all reality God, but again, all your fighting does is change their mind, not dethrone them.
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Aug 14, 2020 13:41
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Barudak posted:Shin Megami Tensei DDS Im pretty sure the God you fight at the end is the maker of all reality God, but again, all your fighting does is change their mind, not dethrone them. You never fight the actual creator in SMT games (the Great Will) but you do fight their avatars, some of which fall from their favor.
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Aug 14, 2020 13:43
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Yeah just to be clear to those not aware: For the record this is almost exactly wrong. In platonic thought the demiurge is the creator god of the world we inhabit but he's still subordinate to the supreme creator, it's imperfection is why everything is merely a representation of the perfect platonic form. Gnostics use the same term for their creator and depending on the sect it can be a sort of antagonistic entity that is lashing out at it's imperfection or a more neutral one.
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Aug 14, 2020 13:45
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Yeah like in Star Ocean 3 you kill what I would consider a classic Demiurge, a being which makes its own creation but that creation it views as lesser than the reality it inhabits. CYBEReris posted:You never fight the actual creator in SMT games (the Great Will) but you do fight their avatars, some of which fall from their favor. Its been absolute ages since I played it but I thought within context of DDS it was presented as the only God. It doesn't really matter, obviously, I just don't remember a reference to anything else.
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Aug 14, 2020 13:49
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Barudak posted:Shin Megami Tensei DDS Im pretty sure the God you fight at the end is the maker of all reality God, but again, all your fighting does is change their mind, not dethrone them. Yeah you kinda just convince The Brahman to chill the gently caress out by uh..spamming Agidyne at it I guess.
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Aug 14, 2020 13:51
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Gaius Marius posted:For the record this is almost exactly wrong. In platonic thought the demiurge is the creator god of the world we inhabit but he's still subordinate to the supreme creator, it's imperfection is why everything is merely a representation of the perfect platonic form. Gnostics use the same term for their creator and depending on the sect it can be a sort of antagonistic entity that is lashing out at it's imperfection or a more neutral one. 
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Aug 14, 2020 14:02
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kirbysuperstar posted:Yeah you kinda just convince The Brahman to chill the gently caress out by uh..spamming Agidyne at it I guess. Yeah technically it's name is Brahman One...though through the whole game characters just refer to it as God. Also watching a cutscene of it now, forgot that the music was pretty badass and fighting a boss that stretched out from infinity (sort of...from the sun technically because that's its physical manifestation in this world???) was pretty cool. Edit: drat, five turns in a row (plus more if it happens to strike weaknesses). Morpheus fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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Aug 14, 2020 16:36
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Mega64 posted:Spinning off the killing God convo, what's the most humorous/crazy way to kill God in an RPG?
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Aug 14, 2020 16:44
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Persona 5 you fight god as the final boss. The whole SMT/Persona series about mythological beings and deities of different cultures.
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Aug 14, 2020 16:46
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P5 is another Demiurge, I think yaldaboth is actually a name for it in older Christian sects Blowing out gods dome with a sick headshot is a pretty good one though
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Aug 14, 2020 16:52
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Don't you fight actual capital-G, YHWH, so YHWH that they play a record scratch instead of actually saying it every time his name comes up in the voice acting, God in IV-A? I cannot actually remember what his actual deal was other than gently caress humanity because between the actual plot and the final battle I spent like forever grinding a mothman to level 99. Because I like mothman.
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Aug 14, 2020 17:19
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:"attack and dethrone god" FFL1 lets you kill God by sawing them in half and I think the final boss of FFL3 is an eldritch horror that was growing inside of God? Or was Sol just Commander Keene posted:Neither Myria/Tyr nor Deathevn are creator deities like the Judeo-Christian God, despite the church in BoF2 definitely being an analogy for the Christian Church. They're more the Demiurge style that TheDiceMustRoll mentions. In 3, Myria mentions a time before she was worshiped which created the Desert of Death and was responsible for the low human population on that continent, and Deathevn is some sort of offspring/remnant of Myria after she's beaten in 1. And the Endless in 4 are more Shinto style animistic deities rather than fire-and-brimstone Jehovah analogues. BoF3's endgame story reveals make Myria/Tyr exceptional dumb and Yggdrasil is far more of a god than her. Deathevan is something like a manifestation of a memory or dream Myria had that becomes aware and starts building power through the fake church? I forget exactly because as bad as the endgame story of BoF3 is, BoF2's story is pretty stupid in general which is probably why it ended up being used to make the ill-fated BoF6 (IIRC).
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Aug 14, 2020 17:42
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Leraika posted:Don't you fight actual capital-G, YHWH, so YHWH that they play a record scratch instead of actually saying it every time his name comes up in the voice acting, God in IV-A? Yes. In one version of the fight you even get to deny the beatitudes, which are something the average christian would probably actually recognize. If that doesn't count as killing capital G God then I don't think any game does it. Although in terms of plot you basically just fight him because some dude in a wheelchair told you to do it, there's not much in-universe justification.
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Aug 14, 2020 17:48
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Leraika posted:Don't you fight actual capital-G, YHWH, so YHWH that they play a record scratch instead of actually saying it every time his name comes up in the voice acting, God in IV-A? Yes, but sort of not really. He's the real-deal Judeo-Christian God but he is not the creator god that Judeo-Christians would believe him to be, only one aspect of it with a shaky relationship with the true creator.
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Aug 14, 2020 18:02
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Snake Maze posted:Yes. In one version of the fight you even get to deny the beatitudes, which are something the average christian would probably actually recognize. If that doesn't count as killing capital G God then I don't think any game does it. look at this person who needs a reason to attack and dethrone god
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Aug 14, 2020 18:08
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CYBEReris posted:Yes, but sort of not really. He's the real-deal Judeo-Christian God but he is not the creator god that Judeo-Christians would believe him to be, only one aspect of it with a shaky relationship with the true creator. So what would the real deal God be refered to as? Just God or would it be like the Creator or something?
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Aug 14, 2020 18:23
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Electric Phantasm posted:So what would the real deal God be refered to as? Just God or would it be like the Creator or something? It's called the Great Will, and YHVH and Kagutsuchi among others are aspects of it
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Aug 14, 2020 18:29
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Electric Phantasm posted:So what would the real deal God be refered to as? Just God or would it be like the Creator or something? In SMT4, YHWH created this universe but He did not create all the universes. At the end of the game, when you beat him, you can sit on the Creator's Throne and make your own. Edit: ^^^^^ see above
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Aug 14, 2020 18:30
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Electric Phantasm posted:So what would the real deal God be refered to as? Just God or would it be like the Creator or something? Trick question, if you can kill/dethrone it, it was just a demiurge, not the real real "G"od!
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Aug 14, 2020 18:41
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Commander Keene posted:But see, IIRC, Final Fantasy Legend's God is explicitly the Demiurge. i thought he was a gameshow host, or possibly an anubis-type judge deity because Saruin's brother, Death, lives in the room behind him, in hell
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Aug 14, 2020 19:18
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The White Dragon posted:i thought he was a gameshow host, or possibly an anubis-type judge deity because Saruin's brother, Death, lives in the room behind him, in hell 
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Aug 14, 2020 19:30
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Awkward Rush and Mission Savers
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Aug 15, 2020 08:21
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In Devil Survivor 2 you Attack and Dethrone the "Administrator" who has the power to delete and rewrite worlds at will. And presumably created the world that humans currently live in. So in that sense they're God, but in another sense they're simply a part of a pre-existing multiverse system. You do literally dethrone them though: one of the routes involves setting someone else up with Administrator privileges.
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Aug 15, 2020 08:26
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In 7th Dragon VFD you become God who's supposed to destroy the universe and start a new one but then you kill yourself to stop yourself from doing that.
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Aug 15, 2020 08:30
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Morpheus posted:Yeah technically it's name is Brahman One...though through the whole game characters just refer to it as God. Nah, it's just Brahman (of the God race), the One/Two etc is just to signify which set of faces/prayer wheels you're up to.
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Aug 15, 2020 08:32
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kirbysuperstar posted:Nah, it's just Brahman (of the God race), the One/Two etc is just to signify which set of faces/prayer wheels you're up to. Oh, duh whoops
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Aug 15, 2020 14:11
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I started another Cold Steel 3 challenge run today. Nightmare difficulty, No Brave Orders. It has been fun and very difficult so far. I might have to not use evade tanks as well, they're very good but not very interesting in the late game.
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Aug 18, 2020 04:45
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Im debating playing Experience Inc's latest game by holding up my phones google translate app to the screen, this is surely not going to be an insanely stupid use of my money
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Aug 18, 2020 08:41
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I think there are some programs you can use to hook into a game and have it automatically machine translate stuff. I've only heard about them in the context of playing VNs, though.
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Aug 18, 2020 14:33
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have you seen machine translations
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Aug 18, 2020 14:37
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Yeah I've played Bamco games
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Aug 18, 2020 15:14
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Thats why I never play games that would be machine translated like the Tales series. 😎
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Aug 18, 2020 15:19
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The game is only out on Xbox One right now, so machine injection seems far off. I don't even know why I want it so bad, I didn't even finish stranger if sword city because it hit a "oh you want a teleporter within 3 dungeons if your objective? Too bad!"
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Aug 18, 2020 15:24
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