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Cup Runneth Over posted:I'd be interested in that discussion personally but I think the forums culture frowns on "posting about posters" In that case, allow me to recommend a trip to Holland International Market for all your Dutch product needs. I got a birthday calendar there like the ones Dutchies hang in their bathrooms. Be careful you don't buy and eat too much black licorice, though, or you'll turn your "drolletjes" black.
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CPColin posted:In that case, allow me to recommend a trip to Holland International Market for all your Dutch product needs. I got a birthday calendar there like the ones Dutchies hang in their bathrooms. Thank you. My husband was running direly low on stroopwafels.
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I used the little information Huego provided to do some research. Their union did nothing but kept taking dues, and their local DSA supported AB5
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Anyone for a game of chess?
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Thank you. My husband was running direly low on stroopwafels.  I think theirs were fresher than the ones at World Market, too, but it's been a long while since I was there.
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Highbrow Slick posted:Anyone for a game of chess? No, chess is exploitive
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Huego posted:Foxfire, the guy I had to tell ten times that I know how my job works better than he does, is not one of the people asking questions in good faith dude. Ok but what is the actual mechanism through which you are losing these jobs? Seems pretty important if your goal is to change the law after all.What is the friction point on the businesses? Is it the common law or ABC test? If so, what is the reason that this has not applied to the other states that have similar laws?
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Still Dismal posted:Ok but what is the actual mechanism through which you are losing these jobs? Seems pretty important if your goal is to change the law after all.What is the friction point on the businesses? Is it the common law or ABC test? If so, what is the reason that this has not applied to the other states that have similar laws? Oh my god. Quit "just asking questions" at me if you aren't even bothering to read my posts.
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CPColin posted:
In exchange, I will share with you this candy shop I visited when I was in San Francisco for a few weeks: http://littlejohnscandies.com/ Their fudge is divine. They ship all over California, too. And the country, at that, if you're a Cali expat.
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Thank you to this thread for making me emotionally ready for the fire hurricane. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Huego posted:Oh my god. Quit "just asking questions" at me if you aren't even bothering to read my posts. i have read your posts. I am asking you to put what you have said in context with the facts that another poster presented, because that makes the situation seem more complex. I'm really not attacking you dude. I'm sympathetic to the argument you're making and think it's probably a legit issue. A handful of people ITT have been dicks to you, it's true, but now you're blowing up at people actually trying to engage with you. Again, not everyone is droll.
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Haha, Baja is eating our smoke 
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Let's see, we already had a fire tornado. We're queuing up a fire hurricane. Can we get a fire El Nińo? How big of a weather system can we fit fire into?
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Cup Runneth Over posted:In exchange, I will share with you this candy shop I visited when I was in San Francisco for a few weeks: Oh man, I want everything. PYF Specialty Californian Market: https://m.facebook.com/pages/category/Ethnic-Grocery-Store/San-Luis-Oriental-Market-593933903953539/ You know it's a good market when it doesn't even have a website.
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Is the hurricane going to draw smoke away from or towards us? Because hey, if it's gonna alleviate the smoke, that's our mitigation strategy right there.
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Jaxyon posted:Like literally somebody is a freelance writer and saying "my income is hosed" and the responses aren't "that sucks how can we make it better" they're "well your company is exploitive" which is true but doesn't really give that guy an income i am disappointed Leperflesh posted:Like, it's almost impossible to read the details of this law and not realize how compromised it is. now i am angry yep, it's another day in this thread
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Kenning posted:Let's see, we already had a fire tornado. We're queuing up a fire hurricane. Can we get a fire El Nińo? How big of a weather system can we fit fire into? they said the jet stream is dying i said NO! now it's the fire stream 
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Bizarro Watt posted:The news of Big Basin being gone just about broke me. most of the redwoods are still there and alive at least, though a bit crispy
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When I used to live in the Netherlands I found an American candy store and drank like a six pack of Mello Yello on the spot. Good times
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Did I die and I am living in hell? I went outside and my throat feels like I opened a cremation oven while its blasting ash, and I had a mask on. loving hell
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Celexi posted:Did I die and I am living in hell? I went outside and my throat feels like I opened a cremation oven while its blasting ash, and I had a mask on. loving hell Maybe, I'm pretty sure somebody in San Jose used some sort of weather magic around 5:30pm today. 
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Ardeem posted:Maybe, I'm pretty sure somebody in San Jose used some sort of weather magic around 5:30pm today. 
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Ardeem posted:Maybe, I'm pretty sure somebody in San Jose used some sort of weather magic around 5:30pm today. i wish they would use some of that magic on oakland 
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CMYK BLYAT! posted:Good news! We have one! You even get paid (poorly)! https://ccc.ca.gov/
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Buffer posted:you also have a 2020 reg date and uber/lyft astroturf - why the gently caress should we believe a word you say about anything? One of the D&D rules is to assume a good-faith argument in people. You (and some others) are avoiding the argument and attacking the person. You don't have to go too far to see how AB5 has damaged writing. If you're a sports fan, the SB Nation blogs have largely handed writing about the California teams to fans out of state, as many of the people who post on those blogs are themselves forums/comment section types who were encouraged to write long-form, not completely unlike The Something Awful frontpage. Nobody's saying AB5 wasn't written on good moral footing, but either due to the writer or due to the courts they extend beyond TNCs into a whole bunch of industries that have closed opportunity for some people. And it doesn't seem to matter because they wrote the bill for this kind of person, the person who is so hungry to see ride-share get some legal pushback that they minimize the impact the bill has on work they barely understand.
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El Mero Mero posted:AB5 is terrible and AB5 is right. This was a good post. Holy poo poo were some of the other posts bad. gently caress!
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Bizarro Watt posted:The news of Big Basin being gone just about broke me. Petition to rename it "Smol Basin".
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CPColin posted:
It'll be even longer; they went bankrupt last year. 
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Craptacular! posted:One of the D&D rules is to assume a good-faith argument in people. You (and some others) are avoiding the argument and attacking the person. I don't actually think that there's a marketing company paying freelance writers to give an abuser  so they can wax poetic on a dead gay comedy forum's CA politics thread ahead of prop 22 - and was kinda shocked I got no "personally I prefer soros bucks" reply or jokey probe - but like is there an argument to engage with? only I know how my poo poo works is a thing you can passively consume but not something you can engage with - it's just an appeal to personal authority.I know AB5 is not some force of pure good in the universe - it came out of the CA legislature. AB5 is both flawed and has hurt people - and it will almost certainly under deliver on buffering the transition for individuals and that's not great and it could be better. For example there are all these small internecine gig-like productions in LA that are so lean the compliance overhead is enough to make them not work, so the money stops flowing and now entire communities are unemployed. We should try to do what we can to ensure those people are taken care of, but, like laws are messy and this kind of thing had to be broad and was going to have misses like this because the misclassification problem and the gig economy problems are both bigger than rideshare. I didn't start off wanting to be mean. I was wandering what could be done to ameliorate the situation(particularly in the immediate). Maybe we were talking past each other, as I(and a lot of others) were never talking about the freelancer here but the business that employs them(as they're the ones excluding california), and trying to understand what part of the regulatory burden was a problem - this is basically asking for the contract writer equivalent of the argument the truckers made about the B part of the ABC test. If the problem is that this industry is just going to take a flat out stand against any California regulation at all(which is my suspicion RE: SB Nation) - to the point of refusing even to interact with an intermediary business in CA in a pure B2B transaction to license content - then welp - what are we supposed to do here? not pass any laws ever?
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Every legal shift is going to have these types of disagreements. This discussion followed the same path as: * building more housing (I'm for more housing, but it shouldn't effect me, the system is working for me) * building more public transit (I'm for more transit, but it shouldn't effect me, the system is working for me) * healthcare (I'm for more healthcare, but it shouldn't effect me, the system is working for me) and so on. There isn't anyway around it. Waiting for the perfect solution means no changes at all. It does really suck, but that is progress.
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Here's a proposed bill amending it in current session: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB1850 There may be other bills; at least five showed up when I searched bills for this term using the keyword freelance (AB-5 counts as this term, since it's 2019-2020) Looks like Gonzalez, the author of AB-5, put forward that bill for freelance photographers, writers, and other jobs. Seems the most recent amendment may have broadened it, or they changed the header to reflect that it's touching a lot more jobs. Anyhow, I gotta go to town. Now there's something to debate and discuss. Will it help Huego? 
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It's currently 90 degrees in my home office with 60% humidity and I have no AC. I start teaching students virtually from this room starting Monday. 
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Alright... I'm just quickscanning this. AB-1850 would replace thisquote:(B)“Professional services” means services that meet any of the following: quote:(B) “Professional services” means services that meet any of the following: The most recent amendment is an assembly floor amendment made on 5/12/20 in the Assembly Labor and Employment Committee. It passed both that committee and the Appropriations committee unanimously, and then passed the Assembly Floor with a 76-0-3 vote. It's now sitting in the Senate, waiting to be taken up by the Senate Labor, Public Employmment and Retirement committee since 7/1/20. Will it pass Senate? Probably? Will this solve Huego's problems?
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sincx posted:Why can't freelancers form a LLC? It's like $100/year, and also provides significant tax and liability benefits. Then freelancers selling their articles/photos/etc to a publication will unquestionably be a B2B transaction, unaffected by AB5. That's a good question. If you're actually self-employed, it seems like a logical step.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:That's a good question. If you're actually self-employed, it seems like a logical step. It is, by every measure, the correct thing to do if you actually are serious about running your business. Not least because it limits how much risk and liability you expose to your personal assets from running your business and it also opens up a world of institutional support. As a 1099 business you don't generate business credit history and most banks won't lend to 1099 businesses (outside of a low-limit credit card), for instance.
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sincx posted:Why can't freelancers form a LLC? It's like $100/year, and also provides significant tax and liability benefits. Then freelancers selling their articles/photos/etc to a publication will unquestionably be a B2B transaction, unaffected by AB5. Its ~$100 to file and a minimum $800/yr tax, it's pretty steep.
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FCKGW posted:Its ~$100 to file and a minimum $800/yr tax, it's pretty steep. BeAuMaN fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Aug 23, 2020 |
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