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Spoeank posted:Koo got himself at least 5 more years in the league with the like 3 successful onside kicks in one game last year Is he just lucky is there actually a skill to onside kicks?
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 01:58 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:Pre-snap scheming. A TE can block or catch, a 4th WR can't really. If you have 4 WRs on the field, the defense knows pretty much what's coming and can adjust for it. I think the assumption that more blockers = better blocking isn't necessarily correct though, and at least at the CFB level isn't really how everyone operates. If you're at significant risk of losing the gap that the TE is creating in the run game, why bother with it? Like the basic math of gaps created vs. the number of box defenders doesn't really change. You've got one more gap than defenders in the box(before a safety comes into the box, 2-gap, etc.) either way. You cut down on the number of run concepts and pass protection schemes you can run, but you're also cutting down on what the defense can do against it. Eifert Posting posted:How many established quarterbacks have the line and the skill right now to make 4 reads? Yeah but you've got five eligible receivers on the field no matter what your personnel package is, and six man protection schemes w/ a runningback are most commonly what teams are running in 2020 anyway. Like the run and shoot was big long fad in the 90's with 4 WR + back as an every-down deal was completely viable. Hamhandler fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Aug 23, 2020 |
# ? Aug 23, 2020 02:01 |
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everytime Koo gets into the field owns because his name is a homophone for "butthole" in portuguese and the announcers get all giggly it's me, I'm the 8-year-old
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 02:01 |
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Skwirl posted:Is he just lucky is there actually a skill to onside kicks? Since you can't stack sides anymore there's a bit more skill to it now in a "hit it where they aren't" slap hitter in baseball deal
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 02:26 |
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Theres definitely some skill but that Saints game was that perfect combo of skill and luck. And yeah just to see how angry Payton got after the 3rd one would be worth signing him long term.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 02:28 |
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Koo loving sucks
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 02:55 |
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Catfish Noodlin posted:Yeah but you've got five eligible receivers on the field no matter what your personnel package is, and six man protection schemes w/ a runningback are most commonly what teams are running in 2020 anyway. Viable, but flawed, which is why the pure Run & Shoot with 4 WR and literally no tight ends on the roster faded away with only a handful of teams heavily using it (And their track records were... uninspiring). A ton of the concepts of it are still around, particularly a lot of what you see in spread concepts with option routes and whatnot. It works as a good package, just like jumbo/goal line and 2 TE and whatnot, and I'd agree teams should try going to 4 WR sets more often than they currently do (I think Atlanta did it a good bit during part of their Super Bowl run season), but I think most teams like the idea of their #1 TE being on the field more than their #4 WR.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 03:06 |
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Running off to kiss them titties https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/1296490915851370499?s=20
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 03:51 |
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Skwirl posted:Is he just lucky is there actually a skill to onside kicks? Kicking at the Saints is the skill, I think.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 04:44 |
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Skwirl posted:Is he just lucky is there actually a skill to onside kicks? I think there is skill now that the onside kick rules changed. Soo's amazing performance last year was all about hitting the ball so it skipped immediately & bounced high, allowing his team to run under it and get into position. a neat cape posted:Koo loving sucks
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 05:07 |
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So who got lit up in the film room? I say 52 https://i.imgur.com/oi4Va2M.gifv
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 05:28 |
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Chromatic posted:So who got lit up in the film room? Perryman for stopping, Derwin for not making the initial tackle
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 05:31 |
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93 and I want to say that's 33 who both hit him at the same time but fail spectacularly.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 05:32 |
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43 has a fair amount of anti-effort going on there too.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 05:33 |
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Grittybeard posted:43 has a fair amount of anti-effort going on there too. That's michael davis who just got replaced with Chris Harris Jr. Ches Neckbeard posted:93 and I want to say that's 33 who both hit him at the same time but fail spectacularly. Justin Jones, a rotational DT, and Derwin James
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 05:37 |
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Who can name the only player in the Super Bowl era with: 550+ receptions 250* punt returns 1+ interceptions
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 07:24 |
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It's Edleman isn't it
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 07:36 |
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I was gonna say Randy Moss but he didn't have 250 punt returns did he?
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 08:48 |
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Ches Neckbeard posted:It's Edleman isn't it Close. Well kinda close.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 09:28 |
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Ah, Welker is an almost, but I don't think he has an interception.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 10:03 |
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Troy Brown?
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 10:20 |
Tom Tucker posted:Who can name the only player in the Super Bowl era with: Its Devin Hester isn't it? Ah no he doesn't have an Int, he has a Forced Fumble though. CyberPingu fucked around with this message at 10:28 on Aug 23, 2020 |
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 10:26 |
nerve posted:I was gonna say Randy Moss but he didn't have 250 punt returns did he? Nah, just shy of 220
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 10:31 |
Symphoric posted:Troy Brown? Seems so.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 10:32 |
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fartknocker posted:Viable, but flawed, which is why the pure Run & Shoot with 4 WR and literally no tight ends on the roster faded away with only a handful of teams heavily using it (And their track records were... uninspiring). A ton of the concepts of it are still around, particularly a lot of what you see in spread concepts with option routes and whatnot. It works as a good package, just like jumbo/goal line and 2 TE and whatnot, and I'd agree teams should try going to 4 WR sets more often than they currently do (I think Atlanta did it a good bit during part of their Super Bowl run season), but I think most teams like the idea of their #1 TE being on the field more than their #4 WR. Yeah I don't think it should be an entire offense, but there sure seems like there should be a lot more of it than there is in the NFL. The thing that supposedly killed the run and shoot was the advent of the zone blitz loving with predictable six man protection schemes, but that's like 100% got to be solved at this point given where college and the NFL are in terms of packages and the passing game, and where the zone blitz is.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 14:31 |
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https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1297530842676449280?s=19
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 15:11 |
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This is Fine.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 15:42 |
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1297549200775958531 lol
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:00 |
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It's finally time for DeShon Elliot and Geno Stone to run the show, bitches
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:04 |
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Jeez, Earl. He just can't dial it down. Hope he can keep it together mentally on his next team.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:07 |
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Didn't see that coming!
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:07 |
Dallas taking in another defender that likes to punch people? That would be a huuuge surprise.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:17 |
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CyberPingu posted:Dallas taking in another defender that likes to punch people? That would be a huuuge surprise. Some of those punches are top notch, though! https://youtu.be/BkENSTceN3E
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:23 |
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So he’s probably already in Dallas right
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:23 |
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https://twitter.com/AdamHoge/status/1297536804913111040
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:32 |
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FizFashizzle posted:So he’s probably already in Dallas right He was actively angling for Dallas when he was leaving Seattle wasn't he? I mean for what he'll be able to pull pay-wise here and for what Jerry will give him it seems like it's be stunning if he ended up anywhere else.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:32 |
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Makes you realize how fragile this entire operation is https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1297557365844324352?s=21
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:34 |
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Am I for not believing this false positive spin coming from teams?
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:34 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Am I for not believing this false positive spin coming from teams? Maybe, maybe not. I can't imagine they'd bring in players they knew were positive, just on a liability basis alone.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 16:40 |
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Move the practice back a couple of hours, that'll stop the virus!
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