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Warmachine posted:I'm frankly considering watching OG Build Divers to learn more about Magee. Unless you can find a Magee super cut it’s probably not worth it.
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Warmachine posted:Also, regarding Alus never really growing as a threat: that's the point of his character. He isn't supposed to grow, at least not without the protagonists dragging him to his lowest point possible. He stubbornly repeats the same mantra the entire series. He isn't growing and evolving his strategy because he doesn't have the concept of change. The fact that he's aping Gunpla at all, let alone digging up more advanced models to throw out monster-of-the-week style is a bloody miracle. I guess I'm just running slap bang in to a problem with the show then, because on a narrative level I can see why that'd be the point and think it's a cool idea but at the same time, Re:Rise is still supposed to be an action show and I just don't care, because I think that makes for a really boring action scenario. I think maybe that's why I appreciate the beginning and middle of Re:Rise more. I don't expect the action to be as central in those parts of the show, so I don't mind if the characterization or plot is given more weight at the cost of action, but I want them to support the action at the end of the show and not obfuscate it in some way. Warmachine posted:I'm frankly considering watching OG Build Divers to learn more about Magee. The only things I know about Magee is that he has a magnificent rear end and is May's surrogate parent, and those are the only things I think I really need to know.
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I really like that there won't be any actual risk to anybody in the last episode. Because it means they're only fighting to save Alus. If there was still a super laser hanging over their head, then saving Alus would just be a means to stop the super laser. By changing the stakes from the super laser to Alus's soul, it makes the theme of the show so much stronger. The Build Divers' true victory isn't stopping the laser, it's showing that everyone can Re Rise.
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Aug 22, 2020 03:23
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Magee is literally the best part of either Build Divers series and I wish we got to see more of them in both series. I do appreciate that Magee got to deliver the welcome to GBN line in the last episode though. edit: My 7 year old nephew was incredibly hyped for the core change Re:Rise and as dumb as it may be it was fun to share his excitement for that. Apprentice Dick fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Aug 22, 2020 |
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Aug 22, 2020 04:11
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Monaghan posted:Can't be because they don't object to the fact that their making sentient Ai's, just that they ruining a video game! Once the game is fixed they don't have a problem with GBN continuing to generate them. That's the really funny thing. Even in the first Divers, it was never like Yu-Gi-Oh where vast international corporations lived and died on their success at this children's game. It's just... a reasonably popular VRMMO. Not even everyone who works at Gundam Base has played it. It's just the staff at GBN has a really inflated idea of their game's importance.
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tsob posted:I guess I'm just running slap bang in to a problem with the show then, because on a narrative level I can see why that'd be the point and think it's a cool idea but at the same time, Re:Rise is still supposed to be an action show and I just don't care, because I think that makes for a really boring action scenario. I think maybe that's why I appreciate the beginning and middle of Re:Rise more. I don't expect the action to be as central in those parts of the show, so I don't mind if the characterization or plot is given more weight at the cost of action, but I want them to support the action at the end of the show and not obfuscate it in some way. Yeah, I can see where it would be an issue also because it's a hard needle to thread: it's easy to see it and think "bad writing" instead of interpreting it as the intent to make a static character as explicit contrast to the protagonists' dynamism. I'm not even sure if my interpretation is correct, I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt because everything else regarding characterization in this series has been phenomenal, so it seems that them gaffing on the main antagonist would be extremely out of character. Apprentice Dick posted:Magee is literally the best part of either Build Divers series and I wish we got to see more of them in both series. I do appreciate that Magee got to deliver the welcome to GBN line in the last episode though. If you weren't riding the hype train as soon as you saw the portraits come together like an episode of Power Rangers then I don't know what you were on.
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"Because it's loving awesome" is a perfectly valid design choice  .
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I generally have a more favourable opinion on Build Fighters Try than the rest of the thread, but one of my standout favourite bits is Yuma wondering aloud if Tryon 3's combination really has any benefit at all, and Sakai immediately hitting back with 'shut up you idiot, you have no sense of EDIT: Well I got the wrong episode but the line from the actual scene is even better. A heinous crime: 
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Warmachine posted:If you weren't riding the hype train as soon as you saw the portraits come together like an episode of Power Rangers then I don't know what you were on. I was kind of expecting them to all end up in a single shared cockpit when that happened but that would have been too much, I suppose.
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I hope Re:Rise manages to get picked as part of a future Super Robot Wars' series roster, since it wouldn't feel too out of place in one. I just wanna see the Re:Rising Gundam being one of your endgame super units that can solo maps.
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The 'it's actually an alien world' concept would make it actually really workable in a SRW, whereas the other Build series would be a bit more work. Just have them think the entire plot of a SRW game is a quest in a MMO until Alus starts nuking stuff, go from there. Heck, unlike other Build series, where other Gundam series being around would slightly break the plot, other Gundam series being around would be perfect. Kazami could go 'haha, they have Amuro AND Garrod as NPCs in this quest, they must really want us to be impressed.'
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jackhunter64 posted:I generally have a more favourable opinion on Build Fighters Try than the rest of the thread, but one of my standout favourite bits is Yuma wondering aloud if Tryon 3's combination really has any benefit at all, and Sakai immediately hitting back with 'shut up you idiot, you have no sense of romance or aesthetic.' That exchange was also really wild because in the typical show, the protagonist would be making that argument to the antagonist instead of vice versa.
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tsob posted:I guess I'm just running slap bang in to a problem with the show then, because on a narrative level I can see why that'd be the point and think it's a cool idea but at the same time, Re:Rise is still supposed to be an action show and I just don't care, because I think that makes for a really boring action scenario. I think maybe that's why I appreciate the beginning and middle of Re:Rise more. I don't expect the action to be as central in those parts of the show, so I don't mind if the characterization or plot is given more weight at the cost of action, but I want them to support the action at the end of the show and not obfuscate it in some way.  amigolupus posted:I hope Re:Rise manages to get picked as part of a future Super Robot Wars' series roster, since it wouldn't feel too out of place in one. I just wanna see the Re:Rising Gundam being one of your endgame super units that can solo maps. Considering how long it lasts on-screen, it'd be a combination attack. Re:Rise would still fit fairly well in SRW anyways, it'd even give you a bunch of different mecha styles: -The Core Gundam has a frame system, as well as the unique ability to change frames once per map, somewhat like the Impulse in Z though with a lot more choices but also more limited in a proper map since it can only change once. The frames could serve as an extra life too. The Core Gundam II has a flight mode although it'd require you to purge all frames and put you at a disadvantage. -The Valkylander has a transformation system. Also Trans-Am, but that'd likely just be an attack as usual. -The Wodom Pod has two lives, with either a one-way transform or just getting destroyed to release the Mobile Doll May, like the Black Sarana in W. -The Knight Justice is a more direct unit with no transformations, though the Knight Aegis has a flight mode. -The Tertium is your typical late-game join with high stats and immediate usability. Cuadorn too, maybe. Endorph posted:The 'it's actually an alien world' concept would make it actually really workable in a SRW, whereas the other Build series would be a bit more work. Just have them think the entire plot of a SRW game is a quest in a MMO until Alus starts nuking stuff, go from there. Heck, unlike other Build series, where other Gundam series being around would slightly break the plot, other Gundam series being around would be perfect. Kazami could go 'haha, they have Amuro AND Garrod as NPCs in this quest, they must really want us to be impressed.' This is also really good and would fit incredibly well in a SRW story.
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I just want them to put wodom pod in mbon as a 2k and mobile doll May as a 3k.
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Itd probably just be a 2k that works like the marasai ans gabthley
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Endorph posted:Itd probably just be a 2k that works like the marasai ans gabthley They threw out this mechanic in EXVS2 because it was poo poo and no one liked it, so they're separate suits now. I dunno if they'd revive the mechanic. God, I want so many Build series suits in EXVS. 
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Someone on Twitter drew Alus Core Gundam armours based aroudn WarGreymon and Omegamon and I love them. https://mobile.twitter.com/sukekiyo56/status/1297156763477635073
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Warmachine posted:I'm frankly considering watching OG Build Divers to learn more about Magee. Well, this isn't happening. I remembered OG Build Fighters is still on YouTube, so that's my weekend binge.
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Warmachine posted:Well, this isn't happening. I remembered OG Build Fighters is still on YouTube, so that's my weekend binge. That's a significantly better idea
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Divers won't really tell you anything about Magee beyond "is a nice person who helps newbies in an MMO" anyway.
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https://twitter.com/nama_gundam/status/1297499067497373696
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Gripweed posted:Will the third season of Divers finally live up to the name by having all the characters pilot aquatic MS? I kind of hope they move on to a new premise; if they continue the escalation trend the third season is going to have GBN raising the dead (I guess it kind of does that already) or opening a portal to Hell or something.
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Midjack posted:I kind of hope they move on to a new premise; if they continue the escalation trend the third season is going to have GBN raising the dead (I guess it kind of does that already) or opening a portal to Hell or something. The existential threat that the Creators fought off hones into planet earth because of GBN side traffic and invade planet earth, the creators manifest within GBN and somehow send a meteor of magic sand into earth to help humanity fend them off with the power of gunpla
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everythingWasBees posted:divers is good tho, watch the dub I know we're in a Gundam thread, and therefore crimes against humanity are de rigueur, but can't you go with a classier one than recommending Build Divers? You know, something kinder. Like a colony drop.
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build divers is just kind of a boring but watchable kids toy commercial show. like the seasons of beyblade where they dont bring up moses. its not the worst thing in the world or anything, heck its better than zeta or stardust memory, or awakening of the trailblazer
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chiasaur11 posted:I know we're in a Gundam thread, and therefore crimes against humanity are de rigueur, but can't you go with a classier one than recommending Build Divers? You know, something kinder. better than zeta, stardust memory, or try imo
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we even have a 800-page thread about them here https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3678195 join my gruntsuit group build
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Do not listen to them, Divers is offensively bad to think and talk about with how nobody could be afforded to spare a brain cell on the plot, worldbuilding and characterization. Also Zeta is great.
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GimmickMan posted:Do not listen to them, Divers is offensively bad to think and talk about with how nobody could be afforded to spare a brain cell on the plot, worldbuilding and characterization. Zeta's middle section is so mind-numbingly dull even I dropped it which says a lot considering that I'm isekai thread OP. apparently it gets really good but if it takes 30 to 40 episodes to do that it's not worth it
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Also Magee revealing that he and Shahryar had a one-night stand is equivalent wrt characterization with the entirety of Try. Stardust Memory is actually the worst thing that I've ever finished. The fact that it looks pretty good just makes how offensively nonsensical the plot and characters are even worse.
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GimmickMan posted:Do not listen to them, Divers is offensively bad to think and talk about with how nobody could be afforded to spare a brain cell on the plot, worldbuilding and characterization. In retrospect I do kinda enjoy the fact that the central mystery of Divers, Sara, is a mystery only to the audience. She's not a mystery to the characters because they straight up do not care. A strange psychic girl shows up with no Gunpla in the game about having a Gunpla, and they don't even think to question it.
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