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Cooked Auto posted:Looks pretty good to me. Only streaking I notice is on the shoulder pad. Do love the blue you did for the armor. Not to mention the base is great as well. Thanks! Yeah, the shoulder pads annoyed me a bit. Must've not thinned my reds enough. The blue is 50/50 VGC Hawk Turquoise and Jade Green, but it looks slightly greener in real life. The base is mainly the result of me getting some AP basing stuff so I wanted to try out some barbed wire 
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Maybe, but it looks fuckin' wicked! Love the colour scheme, too.
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I'm probably going to play for the first time in years and I'd like some feedback on this list. I don't really know what I'm doing. I'm likely but not certainly playing against Death Guard. ++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Tyranid) [49 PL, 6CP, 1,000pts] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size [6CP]: 2. Incursion (51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points) Hive Fleet: Kronos + HQ + The Swarmlord [14 PL, 270pts]: Warlord + Troops + Hormagaunts [6 PL, 120pts] . 20x Hormagaunt: 20x Scything Talons Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts] . 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth Tyranid Warriors [4 PL, 75pts] . Tyranid Warrior: Devourer, Scything Talons . Tyranid Warrior: Devourer, Scything Talons . Tyranid Warrior: Devourer, Scything Talons + Elites + Hive Guard [6 PL, 150pts] . 3x Hive Guard (Impaler): 3x Impaler Cannon Venomthropes [5 PL, 99pts] . 3x Venomthrope: 3x Toxic Lashes + Heavy Support + Biovores [2 PL, 50pts]: Biovore, Show Spore Mine Rules Tyrannofex [10 PL, 200pts]: Acid Spray, Adrenal Glands ++ Total: [49 PL, 6CP, 1,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe The idea is to have the Hive Guards and and the Biovore (I took this because I think it's a funny unit more than anything) will ideally hide out of sight and just keep shooting stuff since they don't need LOS. The Biovore's mortal wounds are especially enticing. The idea is to get the Tyrannofex close enough to spray acid all over the enemy. My thinking is that it's a guaranteed hit is more effective against DG. Meanwhile the Swarmlord backed up by three Venomthropes will move up the blob of Hormagaunts which is either going to bring them into fighting range or is going to be a good distraction. The Ripper Swarms are there just to grab objectives and the Warriors are there because I couldn't think of anything else (and I don't want to paint more hormagaunts). Feedback and suggestions are highly appreciated.
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Winklebottom posted:
What did you use for the barbed wire? The whole model looks great
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If you play vs DG pray that you get to go first before they manage to buff up. DG are great and will get even greater with 2 wounds. Tyranids don't seem to be so great at the moment. Can maybe take the 2ndary where you have to keep your most expensive units alive .. like the hive guard hiding away.
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MRLOLAST posted:If you play vs DG pray that you get to go first before they manage to buff up. DG are great and will get even greater with 2 wounds. Tyranids don't seem to be so great at the moment. Can maybe take the 2ndary where you have to keep your most expensive units alive .. like the hive guard hiding away. I don't mind losing too much, as long as I do OK. Will that list make me do OK?
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inscrutable horse posted:Maybe, but it looks fuckin' wicked! Love the colour scheme, too. Hot Karl Marx posted:What did you use for the barbed wire? The whole model looks great Thanks! The wire is Army Painter Battlefield Razorwire.
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a7m2 posted:I don't mind losing too much, as long as I do OK. Will that list make me do OK? I can't say since I have never played nids  but maybe have 2 units of 10 instead of a large group of 20 termies to grab objectives?I just respects hive guard and turn 1 genestealer rushes . But you are not running the stealers and I understand why not. So instead of melee everything I think you will have to play cagey and know that DG are rock hard and kills stuff easily so just take good victory conditions and focus on completing them.
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a7m2 posted:I'm probably going to play for the first time in years and I'd like some feedback on this list. I don't really know what I'm doing. I'm likely but not certainly playing against Death Guard. You’re welcome to try any list you like and honestly for a first attempt it doesn’t look terrible. That said here’s a couple things: You’re not taking a ton of advantage over Kronos. Their psychic power, Symbiostorm, is really great on Hive Guard, giant Warrior blocks, or an Exocrine but if you’re advancing the Swarmlord away from your hiding units you’re not going to be able to take advantage. On that subject, the Swarmlord at 1000pts is a lot of eggs in one basket. Yes, it has a solid invuln but it’s also an obvious target and you lose big when it gets taken out by their anti-tank. At 1000pts you can probably expect some long-range guns and maybe (probably) a ridiculously overpowered vomitthrower out in Swarmies direction. I would recommend splitting it’s points off onto two HQs. If you want to keep a similar build you can do a walking Tyrant and a Neurothrope (almost mandatory in Kronos). You don’t have a good candidate for relics in your list, which is another reason to add lore non-characters. The Resonance Barb is so good and leaving it off the table is criminal. More small troop units can be important for scoring. With new terrain rules making it easier to get -1 to hit I’d drop Venomthropes for points to fill things out better. They’re just not worth it.  Overall though you’ve picked decent units so play what looks fun!
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Still got the sorcerer to finish, but am taking a break for a bit to paint my daemons for a while. 
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Painted my first SM for well over 10 years as a present for my wife. It's supposed to look like our dog who is a Shiba Inu.  
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After reading Gaunts Ghosts “The Saint” I’m going to have to paint a Chimera.
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Ropes4u posted:After reading Gaunts Ghosts “The Saint” I’m going to have to paint a Chimera. I'm assuming you're talking about the events of Honour Guard (first 1/4 of the omnibus). Have you read Straight Silver yet? It contains one of the most iconic Tanith sequences in the series: The abandoned mansion fight in the spooky woods. The Saint is probably my favorite of the four overarching Ghosts narratives. It has four very different planetary conflicts with different scales and tactics. It also led into the amazing spin-off Double Eagle. The Lost feels like a retreading of a lot of the themes from the Saint: incorporating the Belladons in the same way as the Vervunhivers, Gaunt's position being threatened, and the Ghosts being hung out to dry by incompetent high command. To be fair, that last one is basically standard in the Imperial Guard at large. The Founding is good but Abnett hadn't quite hit his stride with the characters and overall sense of narrative until Necropolis (the third book). I liked the Victory well enough, but it just felt a bit fan service-y and over the top compared to the more grounded start of the series. Legendary Ptarmigan fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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Speckled Jim posted:Yep hairspray it is. Is it possible to do this effect with chipping fluid?
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Legendary Ptarmigan posted:I'm assuming you're talking about the events of Honour Guard (first 1/4 of the omnibus). Have you read Straight Silver yet? It contains one of the most iconic Tanith sequences in the series: Yes! I will have a Chimera with “Wounded Wagon” scrawled in its side. I accept that there are a lot of trash novels in the 40k but “The Saint” isn’t one of them, it’s a really good read so far.
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PierreTheMime posted:You’re welcome to try any list you like and honestly for a first attempt it doesn’t look terrible. That said here’s a couple things: Thanks so much for the detailed feedback! I updated my list based on your feedback. I don't have a walking Tyrant and prefer not to buy any new models now, so I replaced him with a Tyranid Prime to support my Warriors. I replaced the Swarmlord with a Neurothrope, replaced the Hormagaunts with Termagants (since I probably can't get them within fighting range quick enough without the Swarmlord) and replaced the Venomthropes with Zoanthropes. I also beefed up the warriors a bit. I haven't decided on a warlord trait yet, probably the Kronos one. The general idea is similar: I move up my Tyrannofex into acid spraying range, the Biovore and Hive Guard give support from a hidden location, Ripper Swarms try to get objectives. Now I have a team of psykers hopefully dealing out a good amount of mortal wounds not to mention making life hard for enemy psykers. My team of Warriors are pretty flexible now, being able to do dish out long range and melee damage with one of the warriors having a blast weapon. My Termagants will make sure the Neurothrope can't be directly targeted and if they get the chance have the potential to do decent damage. ++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [46 PL, 6CP, 1,000pts] ++ + Configuration + Hive Fleet: Kronos + HQ + Neurothrope [5 PL, 95pts]: Power: Smite, Power: Symbiostorm, Resonance Barb, Warlord Tyranid Prime [5 PL, 85pts]: Adrenal Glands, Boneswords, Deathspitter + Troops + Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts] . 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth Termagants [6 PL, 147pts] . 13x Termagant (Devourer): 13x Devourer . 6x Termagant (Fleshborer): 6x Fleshborer Tyranid Warriors [4 PL, 102pts]: Adrenal Glands . Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter . Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter . Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon + Elites + Hive Guard [6 PL, 150pts] . 3x Hive Guard (Impaler): 3x Impaler Cannon Zoanthropes [6 PL, 135pts]: Power: Onslaught, Power: Smite . 3x Zoanthrope: 3x Claws and Teeth + Heavy Support + Biovores [2 PL, 50pts]: Biovore, Show Spore Mine Rules Tyrannofex [10 PL, 200pts]: Acid Spray, Adrenal Glands ++ Total: [46 PL, 6CP, 1,000pts] ++ Am I making any obvious mistakes? Maybe Hormagaunts are more useful than Termagants because they can tie stuff up in close combat?
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Snail Information posted:Is it possible to do this effect with chipping fluid? I dont see why not. Might have to be a bit more aggressive with the scrubbing. I've thought about making the switch myself. Fluid through the airbrush is probably a bit more forgiving.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Still got the sorcerer to finish, but am taking a break for a bit to paint my daemons for a while. Is that contrast? Looks real nice.
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a7m2 posted:Am I making any obvious mistakes? Maybe Hormagaunts are more useful than Termagants because they can tie stuff up in close combat? With Kronos you're much better off with Termagants zapping things from an objective. The only suggestions I'd make would be: 1) You can take an Adaptive Physiology for 1CP, or take one for free instead of a Warlord trait. I'd highly recommend Dermic Symbiosis on the Tyrannofex if it's going right into the thick of things. 2) Swap out Onslaught for Catalyst to give more durability to key units
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xtothez posted:With Kronos you're much better off with Termagants zapping things from an objective. Thank you! I will do both of these. I was a little worried about the range but I read that in 9th edition the board is smaller so that might negate it a little. In 8th it could be a real issue getting my gants in range.
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a7m2 posted:Thank you! I will do both of these. I was a little worried about the range but I read that in 9th edition the board is smaller so that might negate it a little. In 8th it could be a real issue getting my gants in range. I think that list looks much tighter, and I agree with the power/adaptation update. If you’re playing at 1000pt Incursion missions the board is actually super tiny (30”x44”) and you’ll find yourself able to cover ground really quickly. This makes the acidfex super useful because it can threaten a large portion of the table and dissuade the enemy charging forward to you quickly.
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So I finally caved and got the app subscription and I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised. Now with Battlescribe for the points and the army building and the rulebook it feels like I can play any army in the game. Just have to find an opponent then..
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MRLOLAST posted:So I finally caved and got the app subscription and I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised. Now with Battlescribe for the points and the army building and the rulebook it feels like I can play any army in the game. I was not a fan of the subscription at first. But, with my wife now playing, and me getting ready to add a third army, I'm ahead of the cost of buying all the books for the 3 additional armies. However, I'll wait to see how they handle the codex thing. I like the fluff and stuff in them, but at this point, I know my Eldar background inside and out, I don't need another 50 pages of it. But, I'm not dropping cash on a new codex, for a few pages of rules, when I've been giving them ~$7 a month for x-amount of months by that time for the rules. Then the third side of the 2-sided coin is, having access to all the army rules, so, I can glance at them quickly for armies I'm not familiar with.
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I understood that once a 9th edition codex is released, the app will no longer provide "free" rules for that army with the subscription. It would make a lot of sense if they gave everyone paying a subscription all the rules, but not the fluff content, and fill out some of the value that was perceived as missing from the app.
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Maneck posted:I understood that once a 9th edition codex is released, the app will no longer provide "free" rules for that army with the subscription. It would make a lot of sense if they gave everyone paying a subscription all the rules, but not the fluff content, and fill out some of the value that was perceived as missing from the app. Making sense isn't how GW makes it's business policies. They use a Oujia board.
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I was looking at my old 3rd and 4th edition codexes for some painting inspiration recently, and god do I miss them being thin softcovers, when it comes to playing games.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:They should keep lore and stuff in the codex and have those smaller lay flat books for the data sheets and strategems and things of that nature. I'd like to have to carry less large books if able If they were sold as separate items hardly anyone would buy the fluff bit, and if they were sold together it would bump up the price of codices, and everyone would complain. Let's be realistic here, if they do what they said they were doing (buy a physical codex, get the digital copy on the app for free with all the errata and updates) it's a big step forward. The subscription and the app itself I think is just generally a disaster because it's the classic case of companies doing thing copying other people without truly understanding what made it successful. Subscription models do make a lot of money, yes, particularly for access to digital content which costs you literally nothing to provide (obviously has costs to create) but generates income every month. If you look at a relatively successful similar subscription service, DnD Beyond, you see the big differences. Firstly all the "core" stuff you need is totally free, including the rules to the game, all the character classes etc. The 40K App does not let you play the game because you need the codices to play, even if you ignore that, the army builder part (something critical to playing the game) isn't free. I don't even think it was free to easily search the core rules like you can on DnD Beyond. From there, the subscription basically pays for all the "extras" like expansions etc. It has tools but there are limits on those tools etc. The 40K app honestly seems entire pointless unless you subscribe, which means there's no way to hook people into it. Sure maybe my free digital codex means I'd use the app to check that, but if I can't build my army in it I'm going to use Battlescribe. If the app doesn't let me search the rules, I'm just going to use the PDF I downloaded onto my phone for free that doesn't require an internet connection. If I can't track my crusade army in it or share that army with friends, I'm going to just use the google drive sheet I created. Even if the app does all this things and does them well, there needs to be a reason to pay for them, and I think "it's slightly easier" probably wont cut it. Whereas if I could do all these things for free and they were easy to do but it was like "Sorry, your app can only have 1 crusade army unless you're a subscriber" and then was like "Hey, you know that crusade expansion we released? Subscribers can view it for free!" suddenly you're like "gently caress it, just subscribe, it's easier and at least I'm getting something".
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I am just enjoying the app reading about all the different warlord traits, units , relics and strats all the different armies have. They even have all the different PA books and and their changes. Now when I see a battlereport and someone says they will use green tide or biggest boss warlord trait I can look it up and realized what it does. Things like that is super fun and worthwhile to me. Like no longer is GSC a mystery since I have always been GSC curious.
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MRLOLAST posted:I am just enjoying the app reading about all the different warlord traits, units , relics and strats all the different armies have. They even have all the different PA books and and their changes. Now when I see a battlereport and someone says they will use green tide or biggest boss warlord trait I can look it up and realized what it does. Things like that is super fun and worthwhile to me. Like no longer is GSC a mystery since I have always been GSC curious. Yeah, if you're enjoying it then that's great, but bear in mind that right now you have access to all that stuff, but over the next year or two those codices are going to be replaced with the 9th ones which you don't have access to. There's also other ways to read up the key strats and warlord traits for each army, like even just reading things like Goonhammer and 1d4chan pretty much outlines all the key ones. They are essentially competing with "you can look this up but for free elsewhere, and here it costs you money and is little to no more convenient than your free method". People don't necessarily consciously decide this, but they can sort of tell by gut feelings whether it's adding value or not. If the subscription was access to the full rulebook, all codices (8th and 9th), all expansions etc then it's probably decent value. It doesn't seem like it will stay that good though.
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Kitchner posted:like even just reading things like Goonhammer and 1d4chan pretty much outlines all the key ones. Only Goonhammer now as 1d4chan kicked the bucket mid last week and returns a 503 issue now.
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Cooked Auto posted:Only Goonhammer now as 1d4chan kicked the bucket mid last week and returns a 503 issue now. Maybe they finally cut themselves on their edge.
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Got my Spiritstone Red paint in end of last week and last night finished up my first paint scheme model for my new army. Now to crank on 4 more of these for a full unit in the worlds smallest assembly line.  Oh and have a loin cloth pic too - note to self glue this on before you glue the arms and gun on next time. 
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What recipe did you use for that white? Looks great and was actually what I came here to post about. Trying to settle on a method of doing a white cape. Before I have used Rakarth Flesh > Agrax > Pallid Witch Flesh > White Scar edge highlight. Considering swapping the Rakarth for Wraithbone. Any thoughts?
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^burtle posted:What recipe did you use for that white? Looks great and was actually what I came here to post about. About 4 layers of thinned wraithbone over gray primer, maybe 5, then fine tipped brush to drop agrax earthshade in those creases and then edge highlight vallejo white on the cloak edges and the ridges of the folds.
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FWIW I think of you want to run 3x Hive Guard, you might as well spend the extra 100 and increase the unit to a total of 5x
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^burtle posted:What recipe did you use for that white? Looks great and was actually what I came here to post about. I really like using Corax White as the base coat, then using apothecary white contrast paint as a shade in the recesses, and then highlighted in white scar. It gives a cold white though, if you want a warmer white, like the one used on White Scars, then it's worth watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gLwf3ok4YQ&t=802s
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