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Hamelekim posted:Those preorder suits, guns and briefcases though.... That red suit is cool but I wish you had a white shirt under it. All red-on-red looks lame.| Others are classy at least.
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Zaphod42 posted:Why don't y'all rage against Origin or uPlay I don't get it... People who buy EA or Ubisoft games have already discounted the consideration of whether the company they are buying from is evil.
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Aug 27, 2020 19:14
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Zaphod42 posted:A whole year?! I'm patient. Or just buying it on console
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Aug 27, 2020 19:19
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Zaphod42 posted:A whole year?! There are ten billion cool games coming out every second, some of which I already own and haven’t gotten to. I’m willing to just play other poo poo for a while if it means not having to keep a log of which games I own and what friends I have added on which platform.
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Aug 27, 2020 19:36
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Hedgehog Pie posted:
Oh god totally! It was never that bad in the old games right? I swear it wasn’t. Edit : or that one NPC who stumbles into your shenanigans during his 5 mile trek around to your position like a loving DART! Brazilianpeanutwar fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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Aug 27, 2020 19:45
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Zaphod42 posted:A whole year?! Origin and Uplay don't have smug rear end in a top hat owners bullshitting on Twitter about how much of a savior of free gaming they are, also they don't bribe developers into breaking promises they made to their communities with sacks of cash while offering literally nothing of value (not related to IoI, I'm a Phoenix Point backer and I'm still pissed about it). Sure, Ubisoft bought BlueByte and now Anno games, for example, are all uPlay exclusives but I'm alright with that because they're also paying for their development instead of just leeching on their playerbase. EDIT: Also yeah, I'll have plenty of other games to play until then. I'll just pretend they're doing the episodic release again and I'm waiting for the complete version.
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Aug 27, 2020 21:30
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Hamelekim posted:Those preorder suits, guns and briefcases though.... A step up from being able to play as Kane and/or Lynch because who the Hell wants that.
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Aug 27, 2020 21:34
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Hedgehog Pie posted:A step up from being able to play as Kane and/or Lynch because who the Hell wants that. 
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Aug 27, 2020 21:47
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repiv posted:All of the EGS deals to date have been temporary, usually 12 months but sometimes less Remedy's Control went live on Steam today, so there's hope that they're completely raising the drawbridge.
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Aug 27, 2020 23:17
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I really like the Sapienza escalation where you have to snipe the two targets at opposite ends of the map. I like that the onus is on you the player to come up with a plan, yet it doesn't need to be overwrought and frustrating. I hope there's more like that! I did this by just literally grabbing the sniper in the apartment, walking out the back door and shooting them and got SA with some well timed distraction shots. Hedgehog Pie posted:The worst thing to me is when you try to stealthily subdue someone, but they turn slightly at the last second or start going down some stairs so 47 just decks them instead, invariably attracting everyone's attention. The fact that you can't do anything melee on someone on a staircase is pretty much the worst design decision in the entire game. Zaphod42 posted:A whole year?! In my case it's not loyalty to steam, it's that I don't agree with Epic and their methods and I'm in no rush what so ever to get this game. I tried to use the Epic launcher once and it was loving poo poo too. They should've spent some of that money they use to buy exclusives to make the platform not suck. I try to use GoG nowadays becasue I really like their methods of winning loyalty but they don't have 2016 or 2018 so I'm guessing they won't have this one either.
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Aug 27, 2020 23:39
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I just went on axe rampage as the vampire magician,goddamn that was fun,i was unstoppable! The panicked guards even have special lines as they’re looking for you. “What did he look like?” “A goddamn vampire magician!”
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Aug 27, 2020 23:44
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Man with Hat posted:I try to use GoG nowadays becasue I really like their methods of winning loyalty but they don't have 2016 or 2018 so I'm guessing they won't have this one either. GOG doesn't carry games with DRM so Hitman's always-online stuff probably disqualifies it
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Aug 27, 2020 23:47
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repiv posted:GOG doesn't carry games with DRM so Hitman's always-online stuff probably disqualifies it Oh yeah, that makes sense. Ironic that one of the best things about GOG stops me from buying one of the best games from GOG.
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Aug 27, 2020 23:51
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hahaha so bad!  Speaking of that outfit, to people comment on it? Like how guards blocking an entrance will be like "nice suit, but you can't come in" or "sweet leather jacket, but I can't let you in" when you approach. It'd be interesting to know if they're slightly weirded-out by 47's 'wifebeater' Lynch outfit
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Aug 28, 2020 00:04
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Man with Hat posted:In my case it's not loyalty to steam, it's that I don't agree with Epic and their methods Valve, EA and Ubisoft all engage in the same practices though. Most of why Valve doesn't HAVE to is because they control such a monopoly of market share. Jack Trades posted:Sure, Ubisoft bought BlueByte and now Anno games, for example, are all uPlay exclusives but I'm alright with that because they're also paying for their development instead of just leeching on their playerbase. lol This seems like drawing a very odd line in the sand that doesn't really make sense. How are you to definitively say that Epic hasn't helped games get financed? You don't know all the details of those deals. Man with Hat posted:I try to use GoG nowadays becasue I really like their methods of winning loyalty but they don't have 2016 or 2018 so I'm guessing they won't have this one either. GoG is the best, but they don't have everything. If you're working with Valve, EA, Ubisoft or Epic, they're all evil and will all sell you out for a buck. Such is.
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Hamelekim posted:Those preorder suits, guns and briefcases though.... Nnnngh, nope. Still not going to. I have a line.
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Aug 28, 2020 01:49
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Those preorder suits are loving wank tbh lol. Not that there'd be any point getting them if they weren't, since you'll presumably still be able to unlock the mascot costume 
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Aug 28, 2020 02:01
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What would really be nice is if oculus came out with a new VR headset this fall so that I could play the game on that. Because there is no way it is PSVR only.
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I had a lot of fun doing the Sapienza escalation where you have to kill the two lab security guys with a katana whilst wearing the plague doctor disguise. Maybe it's a testament to how well-designed the Sapienza map in general is, but I liked how it generally didn't require any speed run or trick shot nonsense. That said, I'm never going to try and SA it, lol. I actually wear a plague doctor costume for my day job.
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Aug 28, 2020 03:10
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Major Isoor posted:hahaha so bad! Nah most suits like that use generic lines. The Requiem suit has special lines where people comment on how blinding it is, not sure about the others from the same pack.
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Aug 28, 2020 03:19
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Zaphod42 posted:This seems like drawing a very odd line in the sand that doesn't really make sense. How are you to definitively say that Epic hasn't helped games get financed? You don't know all the details of those deals. Because they don’t offer those deals until the game is almost done. Pirate Jet fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 03:26
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Dabir posted:Nah most suits like that use generic lines. The Requiem suit has special lines where people comment on how blinding it is, not sure about the others from the same pack. Is that.... pitbull?
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Aug 28, 2020 04:56
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Blasmeister posted:Is that.... pitbull? "Did you see what he looked like?" "He was bald... and he was wearing the Sony PS4 pre-order suit."
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Aug 28, 2020 05:11
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Zaphod42 posted:lol Lmao. You got literally anything to back that idea up are you just pulling it out of your rear end wholesale as you usually do? Because I sure as hell never heard of Epic financing the development of any of the EGS exclusives.
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Aug 28, 2020 07:29
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The GOG launcher also has a pretty great integration feature for pretty much every other storefront, so you can launch their games through GOG. Gets around the Epic launcher being terrible (though you still need it to be installed unfortunately). The only thing negative I can think about GOG is that their twitter used to send out pretty chuddy messages. Not sure if it's happened recently.
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Aug 28, 2020 08:01
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Jack Trades posted:Lmao. They give them money don't they? Or do you think those companies are agreeing out of the kindness of their hearts? Cute that you're insulting me for "pulling it out of my rear end" when its just... fundamental business? Economics? Do I really have to even explain this? Epic doesn't force people, they pay them. Lmao. If the business accepts that offer, that means its worth it to them. They think its helping them. You coming along and then judging that as somehow bad or immoral is weird. The game studios are free to accept whatever offer benefits them the most. Somehow if you pay a company to make a game exclusive to your platform that's okay, but if a company invests to make a game and then you pay them back so the game is exclusive that's HORRIBLE. What. Why. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 08:14
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Zaphod42 posted:They give them money don't they? Or do you think those companies are agreeing out of the kindness of their hearts? Are you stupid or just pretending? I'm noticing that you're conveniently ignoring every other point directed at you. Jack Trades posted:Because I sure as hell never heard of Epic financing the development of any of the EGS exclusives. Pirate Jet posted:Because they don’t offer those deals until the game is almost done.
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Aug 28, 2020 08:18
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Zaphod42 posted:Epic doesn't force people, they pay them. Lmao. If the business accepts that offer, that means its worth it to them. They think its helping them. You coming along and then judging that as somehow bad or immoral is weird. The game studios are free to accept whatever offer benefits them the most. I'm gonna give you one million dollars to punch your mother. I'm not going to force you to do that, you're free to decline the offer. What are you going to do?
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Aug 28, 2020 08:19
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Jack Trades posted:Are you stupid or just pretending? Can you please not be a jerk about this. We can just not have the conversation if you're going to be consistently mean and condescending. We're talking about videogames man chill the gently caress out. This is turning into a semantic argument over what "financing" means, which is pointless. But why is it evil to pay a company after they've already invested some of their own money in a game? Bungie put like 5 years into halo and then Microsoft paid them to be exclusive to Xbox, was that evil like Epic? How many months before release does the payment have to transact in order to be acceptable? Its completely arbitrary.
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Aug 28, 2020 08:20
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Zaphod42 posted:Can you please not be a jerk about this. We can just not have the conversation if you're going to be consistently mean and condescending. Zaphod42 posted:A whole year?! Dude, you literally started it and now you're playing the innocent little victim that's everyone else being a meanie to? gently caress off with that poo poo and stop ignoring every point that's inconvenient to you. THEN we could have a conversation.
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Aug 28, 2020 08:24
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Jack Trades posted:Dude, you literally started it and now you're playing the innocent little victim that's everyone else being a meanie to? gently caress off with that poo poo and stop ignoring every point that's inconvenient to you. THEN we could have a conversation. Yes, me asking you why you choose to do a thing you posted about is exactly the same as you calling me stupid. I see. We're in the hitman thread. People here are big hitman fans. It seems pretty natural to me to wonder why you'd wait for 12 whole months to play the new game. You calling me stupid isn't the same. And I'm not ignoring any points at all. If anything, you are. You're now calling me stupid instead of responding to the very fair point I made. Was Microsoft funding Halo the same thing? How many months exactly is okay or not okay? If its 6 months is that okay? a year? two years? Do you have to pay before any code is written? Its just not how business works out every time. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 08:27
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Zaphod42 posted:Yes, me asking you why you choose to do a thing you posted about is exactly the same as you calling me stupid. I see.
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Aug 28, 2020 08:33
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Jack Trades posted:If you want to have a conversation then stop playing dumb. Literally nobody with half a brain buys it. You're the one who seems to be playing dumb. Game studios are business and have money, but most are small and would leverage themselves heavily just over a single title, risking bankruptcy on failure. If they choose to make some deal to stay afloat now that they're not published by Square, that's their own dang business and good for them. Its real odd to think that its noble if Epic gave IO money after they broke up with Square, but doing it now that the game is mostly done is super unacceptable evil. You know Valve takes a huge cut, right? They're not a charity. Let IO get paid if they want to.
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Always seemed pretty dumb to me to be against epic but not valve. Both are billion dollar corporations that exploit their employees and gently caress over their own customers. No ethical consumption under capitalism, but I still want to play the hitting mans game, it's not like you're any less complicit if you wait a year.
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Aug 28, 2020 08:59
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Zaphod42 posted:You're the one who seems to be playing dumb. Seriously though, it's one thing to be weirdly aggro about a single storefront because exclusives have inconvenienced you but pretending that money doesn't finance things is some nth dimensional brainlord poo poo
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Those suits are great, they look like someone dipped 47 in paint Your Brain on Hugs posted:Always seemed pretty dumb to me to be against epic but not valve. Both are billion dollar corporations that exploit their employees and gently caress over their own customers. No ethical consumption under capitalism, but I still want to play the hitting mans game, it's not like you're any less complicit if you wait a year. orcane fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 09:19
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Zaphod, when you're having a tedious loving slapfight in every single thread you're in, have you thought about what might be the one mutual element in all of them?
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Restrained Crown Posse posted:Zaphod, when you're having a tedious loving slapfight in every single thread you're in, have you thought about what might be the one mutual element in all of them? To be fair to Zaphod, I see Jack Trades in very similar circumstances quite often too, so I'm not sure if the problems are entirely one-sided, in that regard!
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For what it's worth, IO explicitly said the deal with Epic is what helped them self-publish this one:quote:“As an independent studio, our partnership with Epic has given us the freedom to create Hitman 3 exactly as we imagined and self-publish the game to our players directly,” IO explained.
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