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mllaneza posted:The source for the "Olly stands between Horus and the Emperor" story just happened. It will later be retold as happening on the Vengeful Spirit, but that story has been told. That was it, there won't be any more to it, stories get exaggerated as they get retold - especially if they turn into legends, and even more so if there needs to be a legend. This is the correct answer and it is confirmed in the afterword as well. GW obviously wanted to change the story and Abnett is genius enough to figure out how to do it but still honor the original story that so many older fans are in love with. That being said, Olly is still out there as is John and their storylines were not wrapped up so I do still expect to see them again, possibly even on the Vengeful Spirit but in a different capacity.
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Aug 28, 2020 17:53
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Speaking of Cain, I am almost done reading every one of his books and one thought keeps coming up. Why isn't there an avengers'esque crossover novel (OR TRILOGY) with every famous Imperial Guard commisar on it. I really want to see Cain, Yarrick, Gaunt and Raine on a planet for a Commisar conference and it gets taken over by Chaos or something.
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Aug 28, 2020 18:08
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I think the Cain novels are set roughly at the present day. The Ghosts novels are set several hundred years before.
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Aug 28, 2020 18:44
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Ego-bot posted:I think the Cain novels are set roughly at the present day. The Ghosts novels are set several hundred years before. The Warp works in mysterious ways.
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Aug 28, 2020 19:07
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I'm almost done with Anarch and the sequence in the undercroft was the best example of creeping, smothering, claustrophobic horror I have ever read. I couldn't stop reading because I wanted to get out of there.
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Aug 28, 2020 19:37
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Dick Trauma posted:I'm almost done with Anarch and the sequence in the undercroft was the best example of creeping, smothering, claustrophobic horror I have ever read. I couldn't stop reading because I wanted to get out of there. There's a scene in the latest Joe Abercrombie book where 2 characters have an organised duel to the death and it's just like, unbearably tense, such a weird feeling, when it's a book that your eyes and brain are making up however you want.
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Aug 28, 2020 19:41
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Dick Trauma posted:I'm almost done with Anarch and the sequence in the undercroft was the best example of creeping, smothering, claustrophobic horror I have ever read. I couldn't stop reading because I wanted to get out of there. gently caress same. Abnett's really good at horror.
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Aug 28, 2020 20:11
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SerCypher posted:Speaking of Cain, I am almost done reading every one of his books and one thought keeps coming up. There's a short fan story with the first three commissars that's hilarious and also shows why a full crossover wouldn't work very well. Let's see if I can find it. e: found it. Not as funny as I remember NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 20:42
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Abnett's great at that kind of thing. The Camba Diaz bridge stand in Saturnine is so good. The sentences get shorter and shorter as the fighting gets more intense until it's just single word adjectives impressions. One of my all time favorite 40k passages.
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Aug 29, 2020 00:39
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euphronius posted:Abnett is a pulp master and consistently raises the genre into what I consider like ... “real” literature which examines the human condition Nah man, I think you're pretty spot on. He also guides the mind's eye so well. But I feel that way about a lot of the Horus Heresy authors. BTW, does anyone have a decent resource on following storylines through the various books? Or do most of you simply read all books in the order they were issued? I've read around 10 HH books so far, I started with the first 3 and then spread out from there, but I'm noticing that I'm starting to read books that reference events that happened in other books that I hadn't read yet so I want to take a step back and evaluate how to go forward, but I'm not sure how to do that without spoiling myself too much.
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Aug 29, 2020 02:21
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I read the entire HH in release order and it was fine. Once you get past the first trilogy several different plot lines develop and so one book may be a continuation of a plot that was three books ago in release order (like Malazan). You can find a picture floating around somewhere of an incredibly convoluted reading order if you want to go through one plot line at a time but then chronologically things get weird and a book may reference something that happened in another plot line you haven't read yet. I'd just go with release order to be honest.
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Aug 29, 2020 03:07
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At some point before I die I'll probably do a listen-through of the Heresy series once it wraps. Were all of them released in Audiobook? Also, they need to get a better shockprod to make Toby read more Gaunts Ghosts goodly.
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Aug 29, 2020 13:19
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SerCypher posted:Speaking of Cain, I am almost done reading every one of his books and one thought keeps coming up.
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Aug 29, 2020 13:37
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D-Pad posted:Abnett's great at that kind of thing. The Camba Diaz bridge stand in Saturnine is so good. The sentences get shorter and shorter as the fighting gets more intense until it's just single word adjectives impressions. One of my all time favorite 40k passages. I was taught this technique for writing essays but it's definitely something that's easier said than done.
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Aug 29, 2020 13:54
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Schadenboner posted:At some point before I die I'll probably do a listen-through of the Heresy series once it wraps. Do we have an ETA to the end of the Horus Heresy? I mean I read slowly enough that I'm beginning to take another crack at it, but it'd be nice to know there's an end in sight.
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Aug 29, 2020 16:25
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Technically the Horus Heresy is over and it is the siege of Terra now. SoT is 8 books long plus some novellas and we have 4 books and 1 novella with the 2nd novella releasing in LE format next week. So maybe a year and a half until finished? Two at the most.
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Aug 29, 2020 16:34
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As I reread Horus Heresy 1 I am once again astonished and delighted by Abnett's choice to focus not on the astartes and primarchs, but instead put a good chunk of the book on the war-reporters who are trying to record what the crusade is for the historical record. Fantastic framing with real human concerns when we all know what grand tragedy is coming. Plus the ongoing question of what the astartes will do when the crusade is over!
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Aug 29, 2020 18:01
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Finally kicking off Bloodlines and I'm barely anywhere into the story, I loving love the aesthetic. When I finished the Forge of Mars trilogy omnibus edition, the little short story at the end killed me because holy poo poo motherfucking 40k cyberpunk, and now I get a whole novel that feels at least a little like Blade Runner in the Imperium and I am so incredibly into it.
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Aug 29, 2020 18:16
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Apocalypse is a real good bolterporn novel and I'd be really disappointed if BL and Josh Reynolds have permanently parted ways. Hold onto the good authors dammit >:(
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Aug 30, 2020 03:35
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Why can't they just have a regular rear end guardsman stand up to a demonic space demi god and tell him to gently caress off before getting splatted.
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Aug 30, 2020 04:12
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Zasze posted:Why can't they just have a regular rear end guardsman stand up to a demonic space demi god and tell him to gently caress off before getting splatted.
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Zasze posted:Why can't they just have a regular rear end guardsman stand up to a demonic space demi god and tell him to gently caress off before getting splatted. Read Saturnine.
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Aug 30, 2020 07:41
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Fly Molo posted:Read Saturnine. I did and I still hope we get Ollanius on Vengeful Spirit doing what he did. Buried Dagger proved you can do the known story and still be riveting. *edit* You know, thinking about it, Ollanius Pius hasn't been just a dude since Know no Fear was published and what was done in Saturnine with Zasze posted:...a regular rear end guardsman stand up to a demonic space demi god and tell him to gently caress off before getting splatted. is as close to that part of the old story as can be told. And I'm sure OP classic will get on that flagship somehow at the end anyway. Arbite fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Aug 30, 2020 |
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Aug 30, 2020 12:56
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so there I am, reading the 1st edition of 40k, and I find this portrait of an Inquisitor: and I need to know three things: A) Are there any books that feature this man? B) Why aren't there books that feature this man? C) Has Eisenhorn ever worked with this man?
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Aug 30, 2020 16:18
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StrixNebulosa posted:so there I am, reading the 1st edition of 40k, and I find this portrait of an Inquisitor: I don’t believe Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clouseau appears outside of the Rogue Trader rulebook, unfortunately.
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Aug 30, 2020 16:27
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Gav Thorpe, buddy, friend - The First Wall is a mess. I'd have dropped it if I didn't get it for free through Audible. I'm annoyed I have to read it before Saturnine.
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StrixNebulosa posted:so there I am, reading the 1st edition of 40k, and I find this portrait of an Inquisitor: A) No B) Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau is too cool for modern 'hamms. C) No Edit: Beaten.
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Aug 30, 2020 16:31
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Where does the "Obiwan Sherlock Closseau" thing come from? Also :[ warhammer deserves this man
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Aug 30, 2020 16:32
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Back when the emperor was in his hippie phase and made his adherents wear yinyangs Edit-- wait his name is WHAT
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Aug 30, 2020 16:35
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StrixNebulosa posted:Where does the "Obiwan Sherlock Closseau" thing come from? No, seriously. That's his actual name.
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Drakyn posted:His parents. Yep, good times.
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Aug 30, 2020 16:43
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 That's the best piece of 40k lore I've learned yet
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Aug 30, 2020 16:46
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I think he's in this video of "wild and wonderful things from Rogue Trader": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCapveFed9U Remember the vid being p fun
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aphid_licker posted:I think he's in this video of "wild and wonderful things from Rogue Trader": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCapveFed9U This is a delightfully silly video and I like their joy at the subject. I'm also about to watch this one, which I expect to be SUPER SERIOUS as Luetin's usual style is. (I love him anyways, his take on the lore is fascinating and in-depth) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0XnCkSMdxE
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I’ve been reading the old 40k Rogue Trader book too. One thing that jumped out at me is that what’s now called High Gothic was previously a language called Tech, they use faux Latin to represent it but it’s actually based on English and Asian languages found in old technical documentation. I like to think that it’s actually poorly translated English as found in cheap electronics manuals and Japanese advertisements.
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Aug 30, 2020 20:55
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I recall one of the original fluff pieces on the Siege of Terra having the White Scars evacuated from the Spaceport they were guarding to the Eternity Gate proper for the final showdown by the Sky Fortress. Does the scene still exist?
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Aug 30, 2020 21:31
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Abnett rules. Has their been any word on the Eisenhorn/Ravenor continuation series? I read the first book, then heard nothing.
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Aug 30, 2020 22:22
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He's writing it now so should be next year some time I think.
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Bucnasti posted:I’ve been reading the old 40k Rogue Trader book too. One thing that jumped out at me is that what’s now called High Gothic was previously a language called Tech, they use faux Latin to represent it but it’s actually based on English and Asian languages found in old technical documentation. That would be a cool idea for a sorta Rogue Trader 2.0 crazy style 40k BL should really reissue the fuckin Rogue Trader book.
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