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Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Bust Rodd posted:

Remember Nexus of Fate? That just happened last year.

Also Kenrith.

Or hell, even Korvold!

These are all tournament level cards that you could only get by whaling. They keep doing it.

What are you gonna do when the Uro of Zendikar is a box topper only?

Kenrith, Korvold and nexus of fate were all more readily available than the average mythic

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nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!
Arguably whale products are more ethical than standard price products, as a casino for adults is clearly more morally defensible than a casino for children.

Cactrot
Jan 11, 2001

Go Go Cactus Galactus





Reik posted:

If I had $4,000 to spend on magic the gathering cards I would end up putting a lot more singles in to the market by buying double masters booster boxes than I would by buying VIP booster boxes, and the singles I would be putting in to the market would mostly be the least expensive form of the single available, making the game overall more affordable.

I don't have a problem with someone buying these VIP booster boxes because buying and opening any sealed product is better than mtgfinance garbage, but it's objectively worse for the average player than cracking regular boosters.

If I had a spare $4k to drop on magic I would just buy a legacy deck.

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
For $4k I’d buy thousands of Guy Teferi proxy alters and donate them to children throughout the land

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Cactrot posted:

If I had a spare $4k to drop on magic I would just buy a legacy deck.
I enjoy crackin' packs and I don't wanna buy old singles

soon as the refund from mystical gets through I'm definitely buying like two cases of zendikar booster boxes, though(or maybe a case of regular and some set boosters). What's special about the "Set" version, is it like a stepping stone between regular boosters and collectors?

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Huxley posted:

I've done freelance writing for actual professional journals, and the standard is $1/word for an 800-1200 word article.

Granted that involved several reference interviews and a lengthy edit process, which is considerably more work than mtg commentary writing. But $50 for 1k words is shameful.

I'm in the wrong field.

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Captain Invictus posted:

I enjoy crackin' packs and I don't wanna buy old singles

soon as the refund from mystical gets through I'm definitely buying like two cases of zendikar booster boxes, though(or maybe a case of regular and some set boosters). What's special about the "Set" version, is it like a stepping stone between regular boosters and collectors?

It’s your money bro, blow it on whatever you want and ignore the haters. Jealousy is a disease.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Captain Invictus posted:

I enjoy crackin' packs and I don't wanna buy old singles

soon as the refund from mystical gets through I'm definitely buying like two cases of zendikar booster boxes, though(or maybe a case of regular and some set boosters). What's special about the "Set" version, is it like a stepping stone between regular boosters and collectors?

my man you have clearly taken a sniff of cocaine and just jumped straight into diving into piles of that poo poo

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


gently caress the haters cracking packs is awesome. Stupid monkey brain like surprises in crinkle paper.

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009

Captain Invictus posted:

I enjoy crackin' packs and I don't wanna buy old singles

soon as the refund from mystical gets through I'm definitely buying like two cases of zendikar booster boxes, though(or maybe a case of regular and some set boosters). What's special about the "Set" version, is it like a stepping stone between regular boosters and collectors?

Set Boosters are packs that WotC is designing specifically for people who enjoy cracking packs. Draft boosters are for drafters, collectors boosters are for collectors and flippers, and Set Boosters are for folks who like that pack cracking excitement.

Where Draft Boosters look like this: 1 rare/mythic, 3 uncommons, 10 commons, chance of foil of any rarity that replaces a common, a basic land, a token/ad.
Set Boosters look like this: 1 rare/mythic, 6 commons and uncommons that are thematically linked, 1 showcase or alternate art card, 2 wildcards of any rarity, 1 foil of any rarity, 1 basic land, an Art card (like in Modern Horizons) but these can be gold "signed" art cards, 1 token/ad that has a 25% chance of being a random card from THE LIST.

So you get 12 cards instead of 15, but you can strike gold an pull up to 4 rares/mythics in a pack as well as get cards from THE LIST. Set Boosters are more expensive too, a box is probably going to be around $140 instead of $100, and a box contains 30 packs instead of 36.

https://blog.cardkingdom.com/mtg-booster-pack-guide/

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

fadam posted:

It’s your money bro, blow it on whatever you want and ignore the haters. Jealousy is a disease.
it's more that I'm not doing this to flaunt, and I apologize if it appeared as if I was just showing off, I just wanted to post what I got and thoughts on it. Most if not all of the borderless foils and regular rare/mythic foils are going to get sold to cover the cost of the VIP boxes, this was a business thing, not a personal collection thing. Though I'll keep a bunch of the common/uncommon foils, and the less pricey rare/mythic foils. and now I've got a rad pile of Unhinged lands.

WOTC just replied to my ticket confirming the UPC thing, so looks like I'm getting 44 Double Masters booster packs as well, sweet.

AngryBooch posted:

Set Boosters are packs that WotC is designing specifically for people who enjoy cracking packs. Draft boosters are for drafters, collectors boosters are for collectors and flippers, and Set Boosters are for folks who like that pack cracking excitement.
That sounds more up my alley, yeah. Probably go for more of those and a few regular booster boxes to bulk out that set then. Plus I love the art cards, I know they're not useful and are too tiny to really appreciate anyways, but I like'em. Make for decent dividers in my boxes too.

the only box purchase I regret was a collector box of Throne of Eldraine. That thing was such a dumpster fire I don't think I'll ever buy a collector pack again just because I've seen how bad it can possibly get. the most valuable card I got in all twelve packs was a full art Royal Scions in one of the three nonfoil slots, absolutely nothing of note otherwise. Lotta pretty commons, though. I like the idea of the unique alt art for each set thing they had going on with it and ikoria.

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evilweasel posted:

my man you have clearly taken a sniff of cocaine and just jumped straight into diving into piles of that poo poo
for sure, but I've got the ironclad rule that I'm not using anything that would financially cripple me for this. no credit cards or anything like that, full stop. And the money coming back from mystical was going to be used for magic anyways, now it's just being awkwardly redirected to something non-VIP.

Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Aug 28, 2020

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Captain Invictus posted:

Apparently it's also happening to Amonkhet, I had the booster box listing on amazon wishlisted at 140 and it just loving vanished alongside every other amonkhet listing basically overnight, and now the boxes are pushing 200 on ebay. Would there be any reason for the sudden spike in interest in Amonkhet?

In Arena, and so I assume also in paper, Amonkhet just became legal in Historic and everyone is drafting it and having fun doing their not-Egypt magic stuff. I would assume that might add significant popularity to Amonkhet cards which could affect pricing?

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

How exactly were you expecting people to take the post of your haul from your 4 thousand plus dollar magic excursion. What thoughts are there other than "wow you spent a lot of money on cardboard" or "wow good job opening them packs".

Like there is a selling/trading thread if your goal was to get people interested in your cards, otherwise you are just bragging about your scratch off winnings.

Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Aug 28, 2020

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Leperflesh posted:

In Arena, and so I assume also in paper, Amonkhet just became legal in Historic and everyone is drafting it and having fun doing their not-Egypt magic stuff. I would assume that might add significant popularity to Amonkhet cards which could affect pricing?

Historic isn’t currently a paper format

E: Holy poo poo who cares what the guy spent money on, these attempts at snipes suck real bad so please stop wasting thread space and people’s eyesight making them

You’re not getting your pound of owned flesh out of this

Mouth Ze Dong
Jan 2, 2005

Aint no thing like me, 'cept me.

Paul Zuvella posted:

you are just bragging about your scratch off winnings.

Thats the whole game

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

StrugglingHoneybun posted:

Thats the whole game

Having a starting hand you dont have to mull is like winning a scratch off too

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I think it's fine for Captain Invictus to show us his haul. It's cool.

And I've seen him do the same thing with for example Reaper Bones kickstarters, and he generally profits off of these endeavors.

TheKingofSprings posted:

Historic isn’t currently a paper format


ahh, OK, well that still might be stimulating interest because it's showcasing the art and so on. As a Tomb Kings player in Warhams, I for one fuckin' love Amonkhet and am considering buying some paper even though I haven't played a paper magic game in like 15 years.

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
I enjoyed the post.

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



Was there no Zendikar preview today?

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

I am in no way saying that he should not be able to post his brag post but also people are allowed to laugh at him for spending 4 thousand dollars on cardboard and also maybe dont pretend it wasn't a brag post.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Paul Zuvella posted:

I am in no way saying that he should not be able to post his brag post but also people are allowed to laugh at him for spending 4 thousand dollars on cardboard and also maybe dont pretend it wasn't a brag post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA8i8lfsoGk&feature=youtu.be&t=28

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Paul Zuvella posted:

I am in no way saying that he should not be able to post his brag post but also people are allowed to laugh at him for spending 4 thousand dollars on cardboard and also maybe dont pretend it wasn't a brag post.

This is the magic thread

definitely throwing stones in a glass house

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades

Framboise posted:

There's a mod out there that puts cards up to... Kaladesh, I think? into Shandalar.

I feel like this kinda just passed under the radar in the frenzy but I very much want to know more about this.

born on a buy you
Aug 14, 2005

Odd Fullback
Bird Gang
Sack Them All
don’t talk about your conspicuous consumption in the thread dedicated to conspicuous consumption. the only ethical way to play magic is to dumpster dive bulk behind card kingdom or cards left on tables after a draft. if you’ve spent a dime on cards you should be guillotined

DangerDongs
Nov 7, 2010

Grimey Drawer
God forbid anyone EVER shares their excitement related to this game in this thread. I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT.

Back to yelling at each other please.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

DangerDongs posted:

God forbid anyone EVER shares their excitement related to this game in this thread. I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT.

Back to yelling at each other please.

My buddy is excited to crack packs again and it is the most :3: poo poo ever.

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer

Framboise posted:

I'm in the wrong field.

It's a nice gig when you can get it, but unreliable. Even at $1/word, you can't get enough of that work to make it anything other than a side hustle.

And lots of places that pay that well treat freelancing as a "friends and family" welfare system. One year, my family was going through a rough transition I got lots of work from an old newspaper colleague. We've steadied the boat, and now some other newspaper expat who needs it is getting that work. But as long as my friend has that job, it'll be there again if things turn.

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


These writing rates are shameful.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

ShaneB posted:

These writing rates are shameful.

In a country as free and equal as America, they're lucky to be making that much!

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Math stays winning

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
At least until enough nerds can be incited to pedagogy that wages of mathematicians can be driven down.

sit on my Facebook
Jun 20, 2007

ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land
The VIP boxsplosion was cool, and getting 44 2xm packs off of it too makes like actually winning big on a scratch off. Bragposts are fine, who honestly cares. We should bragpost more, frankly

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I’m confused where do you get the 3 boxes worth of 2XM boosters from?

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca

Mat Cauthon posted:

Was there no Zendikar preview today?
Previews start on Tuesday 9/1. They Planeswalkers got spoiled early because they were releasing the pre-order patch on Arena that includes them, lol. Good coordination by Wizards.

LeafHouse
Apr 22, 2008

That's what you get for not hailing to the chimp!



Bust Rodd posted:

I’m confused where do you get the 3 boxes worth of 2XM boosters from?

It’s not 3 boxes worth but you can mail each VIP barcode in to Wizards for a free 2XM pack.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

Boco_T posted:

Previews start on Tuesday 9/1. They Planeswalkers got spoiled early because they were releasing the pre-order patch on Arena that includes them, lol. Good coordination by Wizards.

Everything I've seen about Arena vs paper MTG with regards to customer communication reminds me all too closely of my own company, which produces multiple software applications that are technically compatible and interdependent but are actually produced by teams who hate each other and want nothing to do with each other.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

sit on my Facebook posted:

The VIP boxsplosion was cool, and getting 44 2xm packs off of it too makes like actually winning big on a scratch off. Bragposts are fine, who honestly cares. We should bragpost more, frankly

:justpost:

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/627674364845899776/i-hope-mice-do-not-get-things-that-could-have-gone

Confirmation that Zendikar is in Alberta.

AlphaKeny1
Feb 17, 2006

I wanna see more of people's collection. Show me your swag.

I sold off my collection years ago, I miss owning really cool mtg poo poo.. Nowadays I'm only sitting on a box of ikoria collector's boosters.

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Reik
Mar 8, 2004

AlphaKeny1 posted:

I wanna see more of people's collection. Show me your swag.

I sold off my collection years ago, I miss owning really cool mtg poo poo.. Nowadays I'm only sitting on a box of ikoria collector's boosters.

I gave my collection to a friend that builds decks and cubes for us to play with casually. I had a playset of Lion's Eye Diamonds and didn't know the price on them went up :(

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