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I have a personal "No bikes, I will die within a week of getting my license" rule, but god every Ducati I see makes me want to break it. What I'm saying from a place of 0 knowledge is buy the Ducati.
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The Ducati's pretty, but that generation R1 is such a loving amazing motorcycle, and it'll do 100,000miles with oil changes and a valve adjustment. It was super comfortable for me to, great frame if you're tall. Also that MY R1 looks loving amazing, and as good as the Ducs, but I'm probably biased because it's my favorite motorcycle ever.
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I just checked the wikipedia page for the R1 and I was surprised to see the brakes are linked on the current generation (but maybe not the 2020 models?), wasn't expecting that on a modern supersport.
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Aug 24, 2020 22:26
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MomJeans420 posted:I just checked the wikipedia page for the R1 and I was surprised to see the brakes are linked on the current generation (but maybe not the 2020 models?), wasn't expecting that on a modern supersport. Isn't that A Thing on some of the cornering ABS modules?
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Aug 25, 2020 00:22
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Isn't that A Thing on some of the cornering ABS modules? yeah at least on the KTMs it is, but since it's all electronic you can switch it off which is nice. by default it's linked on the street / rain modes, but off on the sport / offroad modes as it should be I'd imagine it's switchable on the yamahas
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Aug 25, 2020 12:35
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Brought home this 2011 KLR yesterday, thanks for all the advice!
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hoho`win posted:Brought home this 2011 KLR yesterday, thanks for all the advice! CA has come full circle, time to resurrect the KLR thread! It was on my short list when I got the VStrom.
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Aug 25, 2020 14:12
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I think I must have missed this little saga. How was all the advice not “don’t get a KLR, get a DR?”
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Aug 25, 2020 16:28
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It's hard to appreciate the light without the contrast of darkness. Someone has to get the KLRs and KTMs.
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Aug 25, 2020 17:02
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When you kill the KLR get a KTM. Worked fine for me so far.
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Didn't you have a drz, though? I did the reverse. I brought a KLR back to life, "killed" it by CHICHE circumstances  , then eventually got a KTM.
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Coydog posted:Didn't you have a drz, though? I did the reverse. I brought a KLR back to life, "killed" it by CHICHE circumstances Yeah, put 25,000mi on it then sent it down river. Had a wr250r for a season too 
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hoho`win posted:Brought home this 2011 KLR yesterday, thanks for all the advice! What contrasting vehicles.
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hoho`win posted:Brought home this 2011 KLR yesterday, thanks for all the advice! What kind of Wh/mi were you getting? 600+? Which hitch did you buy, and did you do the 12V wiring yourself? I'm seriously considering doing this myself.
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High Protein posted:What contrasting vehicles. I mean yeah, it's a miserable turd built by morons but at least he's got a KLR now.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:What kind of Wh/mi were you getting? 600+? Which hitch did you buy, and did you do the 12V wiring yourself? I'm seriously considering doing this myself. Not sure on wh/mi but my range was cut by 40% or so. I bought a curt hitch on eBay, p/n 13449 upc 612314134496. I did the wiring myself just for brake lights, no turn signals, bought a 4 pin adapter and added some spades. If I planned on towing regularly I would wire correctly.
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Coydog posted:Didn't you have a drz, though? I did the reverse. I brought a KLR back to life, "killed" it by CHICHE circumstances I also resurrected a KLR, but it lived a cursed half-life and didn't like to start when it was cold out. (PO had modified the carb and I didn't want to buy a replacement.) Still looking for a replacement bike. Also, I almost bought one of these for $1200 last week, but I wasn't the first person to respond to the ad. Would this have been a great plan or a terrible plan? http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/street/razkull.php
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For a mini, the Razkull is an amazing bang for your buck and a solid bike. I wish I had gotten one of those instead of a grom. Bonus points for ZS190 engines being pretty plug n play, since it's carbed. The 3 gallon tank is just absurd when you consider that the grom and z both have like 1.2 gal tanks or something ridiculous. Having to fill up at 70 miles drove me up the wall, and 3 gallons would have fixed that. But no, don't buy a mini.
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I live in Philadelphia and scooters have a solid presence here. But I'm seeing a whole lot of Groms and equivalent minibikes, hooliganing around lately. Are they better than a scooter in any way? Or is it just the feel of a motorcycle, albait in a small package?
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They’re different than scooters. They have manual transmissions usually, beefier suspension etc. it’s more that it’s a motorcycle with the performance envelope of a scooter.
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They are ScooterMotos. ScuMos Downsides: -They have the tiny tires that make them twitchy and sketchy, as well as single digit HP numbers. -No storage (unless you put a top box on) -Moneypit Upsides -Stoppies -Wheelies (but mostly looping) -Traffic filtering weapon -Fun off road (but where you can't stand up and have to constantly worry about bottoming out unlike a proper dualsport)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SVKlG9Iiak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb1JS4DljYo
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Yuns posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SVKlG9Iiak Zack and Ari live dope lives and do dope poo poo. These were the videos that got me thinking "drat, I should get a Grom." I remember watching the second video 5 years ago and wondering WTF it had less than 100k views. Then I saw a video of some Grom clusterfuck somewhere on the Dragon where a bunch of morons kept piling into each other in corners, some of them forgetting what brakes were and trying to Flintstone their way to a stop. Then I saw people were selling ratted out Groms for MSRP and decided that nah, I really didn't want one after all.
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Oh, make no mistake. Never ride with "grom people". Don't go to their FB groups either. They are the Subaru enthusiasts of the bike world.
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As a new Tesla owner, I have to say that no group could be worse than Tesla owners. Fake kill stories, identical photos of white Model 3s, tons of street racing and the dumbest possible questions. They make the Hayabusa groups of a couple of decades ago look like MacArthur Fellowship winners.
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Yuns posted:As a new Tesla owner, I have to say that no group could be worse than Tesla owners. Fake kill stories, identical photos of white Model 3s, tons of street racing and the dumbest possible questions. They make the Hayabusa groups of a couple of decades ago look like MacArthur Fellowship winners.
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I'm thinking about getting a third bike but am probably going to wait until the spring or next summer to buy a leftover 2020 motorcycle. The main 2021 changes seem to be complying with Euro5. Rationally the KTM 890R would be perfect and would probably replace my little RC390, but I find myself pondering the BMW S1000RR M, the Aprilia RSV4 1100 Factory, Ducati Panigale V4S and the CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP all 4 of which are expensive as poo poo and make no sense for me. I'm not normally a fan of Honda sportbikes; they lost me years ago with the linked brakes and when they decided that they would be the comfortable and rideable Japanese inline 4 sportbikes. But I have a weak spot for the all the Honda race homologation specials the RC30, NR750, RC45, RC51 (in SP2 trim). The RR-R is not exactly a race homologation special but it's not too far off it either. All the reviews say it makes all its power up high so it's not a great road bike at all and super super pricey but I keep thinking about getting it.
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I was going to hold off on this until i bought a house with a garage, but government ineptitude and greed has put a stop to that for the time being. The XSRs suspension feels pretty poo poo, ok for commuting, but bounces you around like a basketball when the road gets a bit bumpy (subtext: all of England). It also is kinda miserable for motorway riding, and I’d like to be able to go somewhere further afield and not be exhausted before I get there. Additionally, it looks terrible with luggage, but that’s neither here nor there all things considered. I have two choices in mind: 1) Spend the ££ on a complete suspension replacement, put a flyscreen on the front. 2) trade in the XSR and buy a new Tenere 700 for ££££. I also considered something like the v-strom 1050 XT in that sweet yellow and blue colourway. Might be nice to have a bike with some bells and whistles. but by the sounds of it it’s a bit flat. Going to try book a test ride for both. Any other suggestions on what bikes to look at? Or should I stick with/fix the XSR? Horse Clocks fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Sep 6, 2020 |
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Does the XSR700 have the same fork as the MT-07? Supposedly that is also too bouncy. Dave Moss says to shave like 2mm off the spacer and put in heavier oil. I’m not sure how true that is but certainly the cheapest option, if you trust his opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-uiiksWsOs
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The XSR range is a completely different class than Tenere or VStrom. For what it’s worth the T7 is an extremely capable and well regarded/reviewed bike. The Versys 650 LT is also similar and well regarded by Zack/Ari for more touring/street than T7. Part of why we buy motorcycles is the look and aesthetics of them, I just can’t see cross shopping XSR and T7, just very diametrically opposed. I assume you have XSR700? For what it’s worth I’ve ridden the coast of California (Bay to LA) with my MT09 which is something like 400+ miles and was mostly alright with just kriega drypacks, although the stock seat definitely was lacking and now that I have comfort seat and some saddle bags that are basically completely untraceable removed coming it would be even better. I can’t speak to road quality but overhauling suspension to me is like something you’d need to do on basically only riding dirt and gravel roads or something.
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Toe Rag posted:Does the XSR700 have the same fork as the MT-07? Supposedly that is also too bouncy. Dave Moss says to shave like 2mm off the spacer and put in heavier oil. I’m not sure how true that is but certainly the cheapest option, if you trust his opinion. This guy really puts a bee in my bonnet, I've met him many times and I'm convinced he doesn't have any idea how bikes actually work and just parrots stuff other people have told him. You can't 'fix' a soggy DR fork by reducing preload and making the damping orifices smaller (effectively what thicker fork oil does). All you'll achieve is slightly slower dive at the price of even crashier, even harsher behavior over small bumps. Shortening the spacer will just make the bike sit slightly lower in the front, which will quicken the steering a tad but is otherwise not here nor there. Both the changes he recommends and the end result imply someone who doesn't really understand what's going on and isn't that good a rider anyway; the inch wide chicken strips on the ohlins equipped fz-9 he was riding while he was here support this theory for me. poo poo riders seek ever-faster turning bikes, at the expense of stability and rear grip, because they need to do lots of line corrections and aren't fast enough to take advantage of the traction they're throwing away by making the bike excessively steep and front-biased. They seek ever-stiffer forks because they're bad at modulating brake pressure into the corner. They make myriad setup changes in that one-weird-trick way because it's easier than examining your own ability, and so on. Slavvy fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Sep 6, 2020 |
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TheBacon posted:Part of why we buy motorcycles is the look and aesthetics of them, I just can’t see cross shopping XSR and T7, just very diametrically opposed. Not all riders are the same. Some of us are more function over form.
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pun pundit posted:Not all riders are the same. Some of us are more function over form. For sure, but then why get XSR in the first place?
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What are you talking about there are loads of functional reasons you would buy an mt-07 with a bunch of dumb hipster poo poo glued on at a greater cost. Like having too heavy a wallet, or excessive dignity.
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I like the XSR700 and would buy one over an MT any day. Especially the new ones because the gold wheels are rad.
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the XSRs are such a half-assed approach to the retro look. Everything lower than the tank is 100% super-modern design that's unchanged from the MTs, it doesn't matter how round your headlight is when you have a belly-mounted exhaust and besides all that, circular LCD gauges are stupid and I hate them
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FBS posted:and besides all that, circular LCD gauges are stupid and I hate them 
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FBS posted:the XSRs are such a half-assed approach to the retro look. Everything lower than the tank is 100% super-modern design that's unchanged from the MTs, it doesn't matter how round your headlight is when you have a belly-mounted exhaust Well you could say they're going for more of a Vitpilen thing but the design is way too hodgepodge for that too.
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Yuns posted:I'm thinking about getting a third bike but am probably going to wait until the spring or next summer to buy a leftover 2020 motorcycle. The main 2021 changes seem to be complying with Euro5. I don't have an SP but my normal fireblade is an incredibly good bike. I guess people give Honda poo poo for being less exciting than the other brands, which may be somewhat true, but it is just a really predictable, competent and accurate bike, and apart from the active damping has the same power and tech as the SP. May not be an issue but the fireblade was several thousand cheaper than the V4s. Panigale looks the best, Aprilia probably the most exciting, Honda the boring competent choice.
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Does the Honda CB 1100 qualify as enough old school under the tank to not fall into the bolt on retro trap?
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