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al-azad posted:You'd think after the Ion Fury controversy they would be more choosy they're being choosy. they know exactly what they're doing.
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Lemon-Lime posted:I really wish they'd at least had better level geometry instead of copying the original's extremely limited one. It makes the game look so much worse than it could. yeah it's definitely a clash
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Lemon-Lime posted:As someone who replayed SoF 1 and 2 a couple of years back I can tell you that in actual fact neither game is particularly fun or interesting outside of the gore system. Counterpoint, exploding neo nazis with the microwave gun is actually very fun. e: What the gently caress's up with these remasters all having the "Reloaded" subtitle? 
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UnknownMercenary posted:e: What the gently caress's up with these remasters all having the "Reloaded" subtitle? It's because guns op
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If you showed a video for a new Ion Fury episode earlier chat would go sour immediately. It was definitely calculated. That being said it was a fun weekend and I'm psyched to try out all of the games.
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Sep 6, 2020 22:58
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Man forget Kingpin, when will someone remaster Shogo
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Sep 6, 2020 23:11
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UnknownMercenary posted:Counterpoint, exploding neo nazis with the microwave gun is actually very fun. Agreed, SoF games are still fun imo (I kinda prefer 1 to 2). SoF1 MP is fun to play still. Zeether posted:Man forget Kingpin, when will someone remaster Shogo You mean make it work properly? If we're at it, let Monolith finish Blood 2 into something playable 
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I'm not crazy, but they said that Graven is supposed to have coop, right? That could be fun.
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Sep 6, 2020 23:27
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Guillermus posted:Agreed, SoF games are still fun imo (I kinda prefer 1 to 2). SoF1 MP is fun to play still. I haven't tried to play in years but I remember for a while SOF1 MP was just every server having the infinite ammo cvar turned on and everybody runs around with shotguns.  I also prefer 1 to 2. 2 just feels weird now, like they tried making a tactical shooter but it's not quite there.
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Zeether posted:Man forget Kingpin, when will someone remaster Shogo It would need a complete remake.
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SOF2 has the distinction of being the first shooter--maybe even game?--I played against people, at a LAN cafe near school.
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Zeether posted:Man forget Kingpin, when will someone remaster Shogo In Shogo's case I think a Shadow Warrior style reboot would be the better choice, indeed the only thing in common this new version should have with the original is the name and that they're both games about giant robots
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Sep 6, 2020 23:35
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drrockso20 posted:In Shogo's case I think a Shadow Warrior style reboot would be the better choice, indeed the only thing in common this new version should have with the original is the name and that they're both games about giant robots Yeah I was going to joke quoting him and 'fix' his quote with 'complete DO-OVER'. Same sentiment.
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drrockso20 posted:In Shogo's case I think a Shadow Warrior style reboot would be the better choice, indeed the only thing in common this new version should have with the original is the name and that they're both games about giant robots Yeah the painful "90s westerners trying to do anime" part can probably go, but the core concept of an FPS with both on foot and giant robot sections is neat and something that could work in a modern game. I mean I guess that's just Titanfall. But these are really giant robots. Titanfall is more like mechwarrior combat than gundam.
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drrockso20 posted:In Shogo's case I think a Shadow Warrior style reboot would be the better choice, indeed the only thing in common this new version should have with the original is the name and that they're both games about giant robots And of course the incredible Lithtech 1.0 engine
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drrockso20 posted:In Shogo's case I think a Shadow Warrior style reboot would be the better choice, indeed the only thing in common this new version should have with the original is the name and that they're both games about giant robots Yeah, I could go for that. There are far to few shooters where you jump in and out of a giant robot at will, a fact I've always found baffling. Shogo itself is no good tho, enemy reaction times that make Blood's cultists look reasonable, and I think they're all hitscanners.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Yeah the painful "90s westerners trying to do anime" part can probably go, but the core concept of an FPS with both on foot and giant robot sections is neat and something that could work in a modern game. I wouldn't dare want the anime aspect gone. you remove that and it's just another rooty tooty bang'n'shooty.
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Sep 6, 2020 23:48
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I don't think Shogo necessarily needs a complete reboot, it's not Blood 2, but doing what it sounds like they're doing with Kingpin, tweaking it to make it less painful to play? Yeah, definitely, it's got some serious rough edges to it. Getting it off the rickety-rear end mess of early Lithtech would probably help a lot. But I'd be cool with a complete reboot too. I quite liked Shogo, and it certainly seems like Monolith does too, given the amount of Shogo stuff you can find in later games. Looking forward to the Sin remaster, though I'm not sure if I'm sold on the new textures. They look good, but I think I might prefer using the old ones. Lighting looks good though. I wonder how it'll play compared to the original, I really want to like it, but there's something about Sin that just feels slightly off whenever I try it, and I'm not sure what it is.
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Mordja posted:I'm not crazy, but they said that Graven is supposed to have coop, right? That could be fun. They did indeed. Brought it up when they talked about tossing potions.
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catlord posted:I don't think Shogo necessarily needs a complete reboot, it's not Blood 2, but doing what it sounds like they're doing with Kingpin, tweaking it to make it less painful to play? Yeah, definitely, it's got some serious rough edges to it. Getting it off the rickety-rear end mess of early Lithtech would probably help a lot. But I'd be cool with a complete reboot too. I quite liked Shogo, and it certainly seems like Monolith does too, given the amount of Shogo stuff you can find in later games. but it's mostly just... bad.
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i would buy a shogo remaster that fixes bugs, rebalances gameplay and expands the maps and systems
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drrockso20 posted:In Shogo's case I think a Shadow Warrior style reboot would be the better choice, indeed the only thing in common this new version should have with the original is the name and that they're both games about giant robots 
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ETPC posted:we really don't need 3d realms anymore
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Volte posted:3DRealms went out of business in 2014 and the remains were bought by some rich guy who made himself the CEO. It's basically just an investment firm cashing in on the retro-shooter craze. more accurate to say they're spearheading it, no?
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Diabetes Forecast posted:I wouldn't dare want the anime aspect gone. you remove that and it's just another rooty tooty bang'n'shooty. Oh the anime part can stay, just not the very specific 90s American understanding of anime that was based entirely on the 3 things that had made it over at that point. The "how to draw manga" book style of anime.
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Volte posted:3DRealms went out of business in 2014 and the remains were bought by some rich guy who made himself the CEO. It's basically just an investment firm cashing in on the retro-shooter craze. oh yeah i know, this is Interceptor wearing it's skin now
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Rinkles posted:more accurate to say they're spearheading it, no?
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Hasn't Interceptor closed after that not-Commander Keen game that nobody wanted shipped and the studio reformed as Slipgate Ironworks?
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upon further analysis, it's not even interceptor that owns 3d realms. it's a danish investment firm and frederik is the CCO not the CEO. the ceo is a guy named mike neilsen who apparently got his money from running a distribution firm in denmark for furniture, perfume, games and electronics
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Rinkles posted:more accurate to say they're spearheading it, no? they're absolutely not and the quicker people can get around to realizing that and not lionizing what's essentially a dead name being tacked onto something else the better off we'll be
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if anything, dave oshry is the coke fueled spearhead
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Oh the anime part can stay, just not the very specific 90s American understanding of anime that was based entirely on the 3 things that had made it over at that point. The "how to draw manga" book style of anime. fart
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ETPC posted:if anything, dave oshry is the coke fueled spearhead  Dave Oshry owns. The guy is pure energy and I love that New Blood exists. Night Dive and New Blood are my two favourite studios right now. If this new 3D Realms manage to help launch some good retro FPS, they're welcome.
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If someone wants to throw money into the pool to give a bunch of really good modders and musicians salaries to do what they are doing anyway as a job that's cool as hell imo
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Honestly you aren't far off from what I'd want The Cheshire Cat posted:Oh the anime part can stay, just not the very specific 90s American understanding of anime that was based entirely on the 3 things that had made it over at that point. The "how to draw manga" book style of anime. Exactly, just like how Turn A Gundam had Syd Mead contribute designs to it, this hypothetical Shogo reboot should get some actual mecha designers from shows like Gundam and Macross to work on it
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drrockso20 posted:Exactly, just like how Turn A Gundam had Syd Mead contribute designs to it, this hypothetical Shogo reboot should get some actual mecha designers from shows like Gundam and Macross to work on it Shogo: Ver. Ka
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ZuljinRaynor posted:Shogo: Ver. Ka Nah not Katoki, I was thinking more along the lines of Kobayashi, Kondo, and Izubuchi as the main one's to try and recruit for this
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