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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Julio Cruz posted:

the govt are already going all-out to blame this rise on the young for going out and having fun which the government told them they could when they opened the pubs back up

20 people drinking together in a single building is bad, unless they're paying for their drinks in which case it's fine and good, actually
Look, people didn't follow our extremely vague instructions that changed daily. That can't be blamed on us.

The Question IRL posted:

Yeah so the Brexit stuff has been the top story on the news over here all day. I think one thing that Bojo fails to understand at all (or is willingly ignoring) is that even if reneging on your deal as part of some super high risk negotiating strategy and it does work....

You've completely killed your credibility. Like why should anyone trust you with future trade deals, when you have shown that you are willing to break deals to try and get what you want.
Yeah, much like his other idea of having the army out on the streets at home can net you a generation of paramilitary violence if they end up doing a massacre and people stop trusting the state to have a monopoly on force, loving about and reneging on international deals gets you pariah state status as other states stop trusting the state to deal fairly.

Genius ideas all round.

e: A .32 ACP bullet started the First World War and ended the Second in Europe.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Sep 7, 2020

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StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
Dawn Foster is a national treasure:

https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1302970358362976261

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

The Question IRL posted:

Yeah so the Brexit stuff has been the top story on the news over here all day. I think one thing that Bojo fails to understand at all (or is willingly ignoring) is that even if reneging on your deal as part of some super high risk negotiating strategy and it does work....

In Contrast, a scroll through the Süddeutsche front page:

Nawalny woken from coma
Nordstream 2
Softbank
Something about Le Pen
Virus numbers


A Brexit story is sandwiched between stories about the Antonescu-Regime in Romania and Paul Rusesabina. I had to explicitly open the politics section.

Handelsblatt: Absolutely nothing
Taz: Dito
Tagesschau: vdL warns UK, Bojo threatens Extinction Rebellion, drowned in a sea of other news


The SZ comes to the conclusion that Bojo is primarily playing to a domestic audience, and that seems to be what others think as well.

I think the UK generally over-estimates how much the EU is still paying attention.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Julio Cruz posted:

the govt are already going all-out to blame this rise on the young for going out and having fun which the government told them they could when they opened the pubs back up

20 people drinking together in a single building is bad, unless they're paying for their drinks in which case it's fine and good, actually

I was supposed to be getting married today, which I guess would've been perfectly fine if we skipped the ceremony and all of the guests just went to the pub instead of the reception.

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts

Guavanaut posted:

Normally around being bottled. :v:

U-turn on schools by October, I reckon. Not sure if they'll be forced into a second lockdown or if it'll be roving local lockdowns.

Last week the administration of the university I teach at did an abrupt 180 and announced that due to the A-level fiasco, they were expecting ~25% more students than usual and were concerned that in-person teaching would not be safe. Their solution was to phase in in-person teaching, with most non-lab classes first meeting physically in early October. I reckon at this rate that by then, following the first major outbreak, they'll simply opt to keep teaching online-only for the rest of the semester.

Qwertycoatl
Dec 31, 2008

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I feel like survivor bias has a lot to do with the popular opinion that it's over and we can start getting back to normal. All the people wandering round saying they've never met anyone who got really sick with it. Yes, because they're all dead or dragging oxygen bottles round their flat, of course you haven't loving heard anything from them.

I think it's partly that about 0.1% people in the country have died of it. It's a lot in absolute numbers but if you know 1000 people then you'd expect only one of them to be dead, and most people don't know 1000 people.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


She does feel like she got steadily more left wing over the last few years. I seem to remember she used to be more melty at the guardian.

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I've seen their cars about ten minute's walk from me, so I'll have to check them out. Insurance was £700 for me regardless of what car I fed into comparison sites, and I love train travel for long distance, so hourly car usage would be great for me.

I don't really like driving anyway, cruising on empty roads at night is wonderful, but dealing with traffic crushes my soul.

They are great if you need to pick someone up from a railway station, or get loads of shopping or similar. Rates are around £5 an hour, or £40ish for 24 hours.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



OwlFancier posted:

She does feel like she got steadily more left wing over the last few years. I seem to remember she used to be more melty at the guardian.

IIRC she's mentioned that she was expected to write with a certain slant at the Guardian and they removed an article which wasn't melty enough.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Qwertycoatl posted:

I think it's partly that about 0.1% people in the country have died of it. It's a lot in absolute numbers but if you know 1000 people then you'd expect only one of them to be dead, and most people don't know 1000 people.

and the old inability to understand exponential curves. if the number of cases is doubling every few days, and it takes two weeks for any action to have an effect, by the time the average person starts to actually see cases it's way too late to do anything. from my vague recollection the last time I looked it up I don't think we're at oh poo poo rates of doubling again yet, mind.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

She does feel like she got steadily more left wing over the last few years. I seem to remember she used to be more melty at the guardian.

Wasn't it Foster who won a Non-Traditional Journalism award...'non-traditional' literally being defined as "not privately educated, didn't go to Oxbridge and actually does journalism occasionally"??

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

peanut- posted:

The Lidl Islay is Caol Ila product and it's genuinely good, I would say better than Laphroiag Select as its closest branded competitor. The Speyside is perfectly drinkable too.

aldi do speyside and islay as well but the cardboard tubes are always empty so either its always been stolen or you need to take the tube to the till

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

stev posted:

IIRC she's mentioned that she was expected to write with a certain slant at the Guardian and they removed an article which wasn't melty enough.

She went absolutely buck wild on Tom Watson being poo poo:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/09/tom-watson-weaken-labour-party-centrists-jeremy-corbyn

strangely, that was her last piece :thunk: Later she said as much that they hadn't asked her to contribute after that.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Breath Ray posted:

aldi do speyside and islay as well but the cardboard tubes are always empty so either its always been stolen or you need to take the tube to the till

gently caress offffff you poo poo

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Miftan posted:

gently caress offffff you poo poo

The only people engaging with Breath Ray are telling them to gently caress off and it's actually way worse than their posting.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
An engaging, high impact poster.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Yeah just put him on ignore (so your quotes don't expose his posts to us) and let him scream into the void.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Or threadban, that would be an option.

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Excluding fuel costs, how much do you reckon it costs to run a small car for a year?
(No, I can't drive and looking at driving test sites is giving me mild panic attacks - I was just wondering how many taxis I could take for the same cost!)

As others have said it depends on the kind of driving you want to do, as a small car with a small engine doesn’t automatically equal cheap insurance and running costs. For short urban driving they’re fine, but if you plan to do long motorway cruises you’d want something with more power.

In terms of costs my BMW 320i costs £600 to insure (social domestic and pleasure, 10,000 miles a year, 6 years no claims bonus, a couple of windscreen claims, no points or convictions) and road tax is £150 a year. First MOT is due in a couple of months so that will be another £55 a year to add on top of that. This doesn’t include consumables or servicing though, so there is also that to consider.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lol at anyone thinking starmer wasn't going to be monsters

https://twitter.com/flying_rodent/status/1302888748724744193?s=19

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Jose posted:

Lol at anyone thinking starmer wasn't going to be monsters

https://twitter.com/flying_rodent/status/1302888748724744193?s=19

Those people were always idiots though.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
https://twitter.com/Kireiiiii3/status/1302900370323247105

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Tsietisin posted:

They are great if you need to pick someone up from a railway station, or get loads of shopping or similar. Rates are around £5 an hour, or £40ish for 24 hours.

I used zipcars for years and they're great for a couple of hours but their rates over a day or weekend are crazy and you're better off going to somewhere like Thrifty, though beware the excess damage charges and the like (not that zipcars are much better).

Where I used to live they were almost exclusively used by residents to take stuff to Wandsworth tip so were usually filthy which was a downside.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

The Question IRL posted:

Yeah so the Brexit stuff has been the top story on the news over here all day. I think one thing that Bojo fails to understand at all (or is willingly ignoring) is that even if reneging on your deal as part of some super high risk negotiating strategy and it does work....

You've completely killed your credibility. Like why should anyone trust you with future trade deals, when you have shown that you are willing to break deals to try and get what you want.

Whenever I have to give lectures on Ethics, I go to the Tony Montoya school of thought.

"All I have in this world is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for no one."

He doesn't give a gently caress

These people are nihilists, The Question IRL

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
gently caress me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Miftan posted:

gently caress offffff you poo poo

What has my good friend breat ray done to upset to noble folk of the ukmt d&d thread?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

goddamnedtwisto posted:

The only people engaging with Breath Ray are telling them to gently caress off and it's actually way worse than their posting.

I feel like telling racists to get in the sea is important, but I'll tone it down.


fridge corn posted:

What has my good friend breat ray done to upset to noble folk of the ukmt d&d thread?

Loads of racism.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Starmer is going to learn that chasing the press approval will massively backfire when the press suddenly pretend it was all his idea even though they were leading the charge.

Lol who am I kidding the Labour right are purely reactionary marketing twats who are incapable of learning.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

fridge corn posted:

What has my good friend breat ray done to upset to noble folk of the ukmt d&d thread?

do you have someone talented that might take over doing this for a bit, like, for a change? do you have, i don't know, a funny loved one or something. just spitballing.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

The Question IRL posted:

Yeah so the Brexit stuff has been the top story on the news over here all day. I think one thing that Bojo fails to understand at all (or is willingly ignoring) is that even if reneging on your deal as part of some super high risk negotiating strategy and it does work....

You've completely killed your credibility. Like why should anyone trust you with future trade deals, when you have shown that you are willing to break deals to try and get what you want.

Whenever I have to give lectures on Ethics, I go to the Tony Montoya school of thought.

"All I have in this world is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for no one."

Boris plans to ratfuck the country, go work for all the people making money out of the ratfucking and then try and run for President of the US.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

CoolCab posted:

do you have someone talented that might take over doing this for a bit, like, for a change? do you have, i don't know, a funny loved one or something. just spitballing.

My girlfriend (soon to be fiancee as soon as the ring I designed is finished being made) is very funny although she is not very online so I don't know if she'd really get posting. For instance she calls the forums "the manblog" which shows her ignorance to the fact that there are women out there who are interested in this stuff!!

Anyway, I have never known breath ray to be racist but he does perhaps word things strangely from time to time and I don't think we should hold that against him

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

fridge corn posted:

My girlfriend (soon to be fiancee as soon as the ring I designed is finished being made) is very funny although



well, they say opposites attract. best of luck with that!

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

fridge corn posted:

Anyway, I have never known breath ray to be racist but he does perhaps word things strangely from time to time and I don't think we should hold that against him

Using camel jockey as a description of a person isn't "wording things strangely".

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Matt Hancock is blaming 'affluent young people' for spreading the coronavirus now.

Articles showing people out eating, in the time of a pandemic! Doing exactly what the government told them to do. The horror!

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Barry Foster posted:

He doesn't give a gently caress

These people are nihilists, The Question IRL

Here's the thing. I don't think that is true.

I know I bring it up all the time, but when my daughter died last year I learnt an important lesson.
We will all accept a narrative that is awful and horrible and even completely factually wrong if it makes "sense" over a more correct but chaotic truth.

Johnson being a nihilist who doesn't care what happens or him being a disaster capitalist that is going to make bank out of Brexit makes sense.
It's a credible motivation for the villain to have and it means there could be a scene where we look through his office and like Marge in "Homer Vs. The Mono Rail" we'd find a damning cartoon drawing that would prove our suspicion.

But I don't think that's what is happening here.
I suspect (to go back to a dramatic trope example) you would get your answer if you spoke to Bojo for more than 15 minutes. (Or read an account of someone who has spoken to him for more than 15 minutes.)

He's just an egotist who has never suffered any actual consequences and assumes he never will.
Don't believe me?

This is a man who bragged about how he would shake hands with Covid Patients.
What happens? He got Covid.
For a normal person that would be a road to Damascus conversion. A realization that change must occur.
For BoJo all that happened was he thought he needed to lose weight and it wouldn't happen again.

Bojo almost certainly has a distinct nihilist part in that he doesn't really care what happens to the UK. But for someone truly motivated by Nihilism you look at Gove or Patel.
Borris almost certainly has a financial contingency plan in place so he will be fine when it goes tits up. But I think the real Distaster Capitalisits are Reese Mog and maybe your new rich boy Chancellor of the Exchequor.

No with Boris this is all about his Ego (as is Cummings.) That's why he hobbled May's deal, it is why he recreated the deal and pushed it through and that is why he is trying some sabre rattling to get a better deal.
It's the type of Tan move that all those other Tan's throughout history have done and Boris venerated them.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Jose posted:

Lol at anyone thinking starmer wasn't going to be monsters

Twitter thing


Found this reply - this is bad for Ceremy Jorbyn:

https://twitter.com/corbyn8myhamsta/status/1302913122970341376?s=20

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loRA5XxACcw

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
Anyway, I'm really looking forward to big things from the Lib Dems now that Ed "Big Ed" Davey is in charge

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Jose posted:

Lol at anyone thinking starmer wasn't going to be monsters

https://twitter.com/flying_rodent/status/1302888748724744193?s=19

TROOOOOOOOOTS

The loving trots are to blame for loving everything aren't they? I've been hanging in super-lefty circles for ages and I genuinely don't think I've ever met anyone who self-identifies as a trotskyite.

What must it belike living in the mind of someone who imagines trots on every corner?

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CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

fridge corn posted:

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to big things from the Lib Dems now that Ed "Big Ed" Davey is in charge

lifeless, dull. i can absolutely tell you're not letting your Hot Wife do her great posts here.

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