Bucky Fullminster posted:

They were pitching the Trump team on something which basically describes "Q". Does that not support the interpretation?

Bucky Fullminster posted:

Does that not support the interpretation?

Does that not support the interpretation?

Is that not evidence against the hypothesis that it was just a prank?

Are you disputing any of that, or are you saying that in light of those 3 things, it is still more likely to not have been an agency than to be one?

Are there arguments against it I am missing which don't boil down to those two?

Let me ask this, what is an example of some evidence you would find worth considering?

What could I post that would not make you say "well you've just posted "thing''?

In light of the long history of political influence, why is the idea that is was agency so 'extraordinary'?

If I had come in here and said that the Seth Rich conspiracy theory was in fact started by Russians, before the senate inquiry, what would you have said?

Do you guys accept that Russia (and Stone and Jones and Assange) created that conspiracy, and have in fact performed "active measures" for a long time?

Helsing posted:

No. No it doesn't. Psy is making a sales pitch wherein they are describing a generic internet influence campaign that is completely unremarkable and frankly rather generic. The fact you think it is some kind of smoking gun evidence that you found a firm pitching a political campaign on some digital astroturfing kind of just emphasizes that you're in way over your head. There could very well be some astroturf group that contributed to the spread of Q stuff but this generic sales pitch which is in no way unique to Psy doesn't constitute evidence for anything. There are many firms that offer these kinds of services.

Helsing posted:

ridiculous barrage-of-questions technique that you resort to whenever you can't defend your claims

RagnarokAngel posted:

This pretty much goes back to why I was telling you you really need to do some in-person action. What the hell has this done to deprogram anybody.

Bucky Fullminster posted:

Excellent. Can you please name as many of these companies as possible. Preferably ones that specifically purport to operate in the "dark web".

And thank you for agreeing that this in fact unremarkable, rather than an 'insane conspiracy'.

It certainly doesn't make the idea that this was the work of an agency less likely.


I've answered every single question directed at me, and defended all of my claims. Asking questions in return is important for establishing where to go next. The Seth Rich Story is the best example here. Perhaps people think that it "just happened" organically as well. Because after all, people like conspiracies and hate Hillary. Both of those are true. But it still took orchestration to create the beast. And we can prove it. Same with Pizzagate. Both of these were created, in exactly the same way that I am proposing Q was. And 'save the children' for that matter.

But when I ask people that question, point blank, multiple times, it gets straight up ignored. Every time. Presumably because answering it undercuts half the argument: that suggesting something which could be described as a "conspiracy" along these lines is crazy, instead of a sadly unfortunate fact of life.

We don't have the full receipts for Qanon yet. But we do arguably have a quote. And it it is quacking like a motherfucker.

Helsing posted:

I think that this entire exercise has run its course. You've been asked several times to not do this and you just cannot seem to help yourself.

I really do not like shutting down debates or kicking people out of a thread that they are genuinely trying to participate in, but this has gotten ridiculous. If you really want to continue your 'investigation' then I recommend you start your own thread. I can't promise you it will go well or that you'll do anything except crown yourself as the next Eripsa but it is time to leave this thread in peace.

indiscriminately posted:

Hey I know it's tough out there right now but please find a way to spend some time with people irl. Adopt a dog if you don't have one, take it for a long walk every day for a month. You gotta give yourself a break! Your posts here are not good for you and they're not good to read, you're stressing people out, and not for the reasons you think.

Uglycat posted:

Hey, indiscriminately, I'm genuinely concerned for your mental health. This isn't a sleight, I just think maybe you should take some time off, log off, let your brain cool. You're sounding all loony-tunes and crazy and anybody in their right mind is obviously going to outright dismiss the nonsense you're spewing as a result of your mental illness that I'm diagnosing in you and offering you medical advice about. Honestly, authentically, sincerely, and this is not at all ironic or meant to demonstrate anything.

RagnarokAngel posted:

Are you afraid we're trying to silence Bucky from spreading the truth, what point is this even trying to make.

The Chad Jihad posted:

It blows my mind that part of the kindling that set this thing off was Hillary breaking her toe and needing a cast, which was taken as actually being an ankle monitor

Uglycat posted:

In that interest, I have a document to share. It's a thread from whyweprotest.net, a site started by me and two other goons at the birth of Chanology as a somethingawful-style forum with a moderation policy that was inclusive of channers, goons, gaia users, ex-scientologists, and people from all corners of the internet that were down for destroying scientology. I'm the OP, user 'Consensus', and it's absolutely imperfect (and much will be familiar to readers of this thread), but it was an effort I made a decade ago to answer the very question you're bringing up.

https://whyweprotest.net/threads/on-brainwashing-long.11614/

not to give myself attaboys, but I'm pretty proud of this bit of writing (and the influence it's had) flawed as it is. It's the closest thing I've ever done to an 'effortpost', and it's admittedly a bit unpolished.

RagnarokAngel posted:

Are you afraid we're trying to silence Bucky from spreading the truth, what point is this even trying to make.

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

I'm glad that this thread seems to be moving beyond constant lists, demands that other posters provide lists to prove/disprove other lists, and accusations of gaslighting every 10 posts or so.


Yeah, being weirdly obsessed with Hillary's health during the 2016 election was, in hindsight, a massive factor in whether or not someone got Q-pilled afterwards. Believing she was secretly dying primed people for all sorts of dubious bullshit.

Mackers posted:

its still pretty amazing how far down some of these people have spiraled. I could never have imagined this Q poo poo would spread like it has

it's a widespread mental health crisis at this point imo and idk how the gently caress you begin to fix it

Ratoslov posted:

Actually having something resembling public mental health treatment resources in this country would be a good start, but basically nobody gives a crap about the mentally ill in this country and our society has essentially nothing but contempt for them.

Mad Hamish posted:

I think if Facebook and YouTube were shut down it'd be a good place to start towards fixing this whole absurd Q situation.

Mad Hamish posted:

I think if Facebook and YouTube were shut down it'd be a good place to start towards fixing this whole absurd Q situation.

Helsing posted:

Diva Cupcake posted:

https://twitter.com/WilliamTurton/status/1304498734382936064

Mackers posted:

its still pretty amazing how far down some of these people have spiraled. I could never have imagined this Q poo poo would spread like it has

it's a widespread mental health crisis at this point imo and idk how the gently caress you begin to fix it

Xiahou Dun posted:

It doesn't look like it at first blush but I swear this is both amusing and becomes relevant : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44

(It's a long-form take on Flat Earthers that spins to talk about QAnon. And I've been following the dude for years and he's an engaging and good bread-tuber if you're into that.)

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

As a rule I don’t watch youtube videos longer than an hour, but this one is good and probably Dan’s best. I had never really thought about how all the screaming racists in Kohl’s getting posted on twitter back in 2016 used the specific phrase “Trump is going to make you go away,” nor how that behavior fits into reactionary embrace of conspiracism. Eliminationism as epistemic closure makes so much sense.

Xiahou Dun posted:

It doesn't look like it at first blush but I swear this is both amusing and becomes relevant : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44

(It's a long-form take on Flat Earthers that spins to talk about QAnon. And I've been following the dude for years and he's an engaging and good bread-tuber if you're into that.)

Xiahou Dun posted:

It doesn't look like it at first blush but I swear this is both amusing and becomes relevant : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44

(It's a long-form take on Flat Earthers that spins to talk about QAnon. And I've been following the dude for years and he's an engaging and good bread-tuber if you're into that.)

Xiahou Dun posted:

It doesn't look like it at first blush but I swear this is both amusing and becomes relevant : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44

(It's a long-form take on Flat Earthers that spins to talk about QAnon. And I've been following the dude for years and he's an engaging and good bread-tuber if you're into that.)

indiscriminately posted:

So the base problem is again inequality. A person permitted a secure lifestyle in the sense of, say, Maslow's hierarchy isn't much interested in conspiracy theories no matter the marketing spend or the trending topics because their attention goes to their friends/family and their creative work.

quote:

Today Trump referenced The Abraham Accord in his speech about the normalization of Israel and Bahrain. When he was speaking of The Abraham Accord, he stated this has been in the works a very very long time.

Now let's look at something that I believe ties into The Abraham Accord...

What happened to Diana?
What did she find out?
Why was she running?
Who did she entrust to help her flee?
What was the cover?
Why is this relevant?
Why now?
Old.
Connection.

CUE is stating that she escaped, because she knew she was going to be killed.

Her supposed "death" date was August 31, 1997. So, if she did escape like Cue implies, she would have officially been in safety on September 1, 1997.

Now, how might this tie with what is happening in the Middle East.....

It gets crazy, if you look at September 1, 1997 correlations, guess what it links to?

No kidding: The Abraham Accord. Then if we look at further information it also correlates to The Vatican and A Catholic Land. The J€su!t Order created the Z!0N!$ts, and the N@si's, don't be fooled into thinking the Roth's head this, they don't. World War 1 and 2 behind the scenes was a total creation of the J€su!t Order, with puppets as the front. Then we had the infiltrtion of the Nasis's in Russia and the United States, and who knows where else.

Are we still not batting the J€su!t Order, and the Vatican which was designed to protect themselves from accountability? Which had been the puppet master behind the entire system.... Black Nobility Bloodlines which run back to Egyptian Pharoahs and Cannanites (Nephilim). Wasn't Dodi Fayer Egyptian? Yes. Didn't Diana stand in front of the Sphinx, in Egypt? Yes she did.

The J€su!t Order of the Vatican has had a grip on the entire Middle East, as well as keeping Israel in it's grips through Rome.

The shifting of Embassies from other parts of Israel to Jerusalem is to show that the power structure has shifted. As we watch other nations moving their embassies to Jerusalem, you are seeing a submission to Trump and a shift in principalities and powers. A submission from the elohim (lower gods) to YHWH.

The Abraham Accord I think was part of Diana's work.

Why is Israel so significant: remember Alice in Wonderland? Alice equals Hillary and Saudi Arabia was connected tightly to the Black Nobility J€su!t Order.. yep. And what was Hillary and Saudi Arabia doing? Child trafficking. Follow the White Rabbit? Israel is the White Rabbit, chasing time, running out of time. Israel also creates the Golden Ratio, the center point of the Golden Ratio lines up with Jerusalem, where the largest portal in the world exists. Trump's hair also makes the Golden Ratio. The Golden Ratio is God's finger print in all of creation. Israel also creates a White Rabbit and holds the organs of the human body. Further more Israel is believe to be the original location of Eden. Who are the White Rabbits, Cue asks? They are the Israelites.

What else makes the White Rabbit symbol? Adrenochrome. They have been hunting the blood of the Israelites and specifically the Tribe of Judah.

Remember the underground breeding: Tribes of Israel have been kept captive a long time. Tribe of Judah is highly desirable. Adrenochrome.

The J€Suits spoke of how they loved spilling the blood of the Jews. Documented in The Secret History Of the J€SUTS. Which I highly recommend.

The Tribes of Israel haven't run Israel in a long time.

The Tribes of Israel were literally scattered throughout the world. Furthermore, this is at least a thousand year old plan..... The Tribes of Israel, who understood the Satanic Cult Bloodlines, are taking them down. They know of the infiltrtion.... There are those parts of the Tribes of Israel that have stayed faithful to YHWH.

This is God's plan. This is God's storm. I don't fully understand how the Lord has orchastrated all this but it's divine.

Trump is the Line of Judah. He somehow holds the deed to Jerusalem.... He is leading. Each Tribe is playing a role in the take down of the Satanic cabal.

The Abraham Accord is completely destroying the J€su!t Order, The Vatican and Roman rule over the Middle East and Israel. And freeing the people of the Middle East.

And yes, I believe Diana has played a role behind the scenes. Tip of the Spear.

Blue Moonlight posted:

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > #QAnon: Trump's hair also makes the Golden Ratio.

quote:

Why is Israel so significant: remember Alice in Wonderland? Alice equals Hillary and Saudi Arabia was connected tightly to the Black Nobility J€su!t Order.. yep. And what was Hillary and Saudi Arabia doing? Child trafficking. Follow the White Rabbit? Israel is the White Rabbit, chasing time, running out of time. Israel also creates the Golden Ratio, the center point of the Golden Ratio lines up with Jerusalem, where the largest portal in the world exists. Trump's hair also makes the Golden Ratio. The Golden Ratio is God's finger print in all of creation. Israel also creates a White Rabbit and holds the organs of the human body. Further more Israel is believe to be the original location of Eden. Who are the White Rabbits, Cue asks? They are the Israelites.

Chomposaur posted:

Thank you for actually reading that to pull out this gem

New Yorp New Yorp posted:

She posts this babbling nonsense nonstop and has thousands of followers. It's baffling. It's also baffling that she's super worried about the child eating pedophile cabal yet she constantly posts pictures of her kids on social networks.