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Bucky Fullminster posted:They were pitching the Trump team on something which basically describes "Q". Does that not support the interpretation? No. No it doesn't. Psy is making a sales pitch wherein they are describing a generic internet influence campaign that is completely unremarkable and frankly rather generic. The fact you think it is some kind of smoking gun evidence that you found a firm pitching a political campaign on some digital astroturfing kind of just emphasizes that you're in way over your head. There could very well be some astroturf group that contributed to the spread of Q stuff but this generic sales pitch which is in no way unique to Psy doesn't constitute evidence for anything. There are many firms that offer these kinds of services. The rest of your post immediately returns to the same ridiculous barrage-of-questions technique that you resort to whenever you can't defend your claims - which is about 90% of the time. I mean seriously man, I cut out everything in your post that wasn't a question and the result was about 80% of your post remained intact: Bucky Fullminster posted:Does that not support the interpretation? I think that this entire exercise has run its course. You've been asked several times to not do this and you just cannot seem to help yourself. I really do not like shutting down debates or kicking people out of a thread that they are genuinely trying to participate in, but this has gotten ridiculous. If you really want to continue your 'investigation' then I recommend you start your own thread. I can't promise you it will go well or that you'll do anything except crown yourself as the next Eripsa but it is time to leave this thread in peace.
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Helsing posted:No. No it doesn't. Psy is making a sales pitch wherein they are describing a generic internet influence campaign that is completely unremarkable and frankly rather generic. The fact you think it is some kind of smoking gun evidence that you found a firm pitching a political campaign on some digital astroturfing kind of just emphasizes that you're in way over your head. There could very well be some astroturf group that contributed to the spread of Q stuff but this generic sales pitch which is in no way unique to Psy doesn't constitute evidence for anything. There are many firms that offer these kinds of services. Excellent. Can you please name as many of these companies as possible. Preferably ones that specifically purport to operate in the "dark web". And thank you for agreeing that this in fact unremarkable, rather than an 'insane conspiracy'. It certainly doesn't make the idea that this was the work of an agency less likely. Helsing posted:ridiculous barrage-of-questions technique that you resort to whenever you can't defend your claims I've answered every single question directed at me, and defended all of my claims. Asking questions in return is important for establishing where to go next. The Seth Rich Story is the best example here. Perhaps people think that it "just happened" organically as well. Because after all, people like conspiracies and hate Hillary. Both of those are true. But it still took orchestration to create the beast. And we can prove it. Same with Pizzagate. Both of these were created, in exactly the same way that I am proposing Q was. And 'save the children' for that matter. But when I ask people that question, point blank, multiple times, it gets straight up ignored. Every time. Presumably because answering it undercuts half the argument: that suggesting something which could be described as a "conspiracy" along these lines is crazy, instead of a sadly unfortunate fact of life. We don't have the full receipts for Qanon yet. But we do arguably have a quote. And it it is quacking like a motherfucker. Bucky Fullminster fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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Hey I know it's tough out there right now but please find a way to spend some time with people irl. Adopt a dog if you don't have one, take it for a long walk every day for a month. You gotta give yourself a break! Your posts here are not good for you and they're not good to read, you're stressing people out, and not for the reasons you think.
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This pretty much goes back to why I was telling you you really need to do some in-person action. What the hell has this done to deprogram anybody.
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RagnarokAngel posted:This pretty much goes back to why I was telling you you really need to do some in-person action. What the hell has this done to deprogram anybody. I’m at the point where I want to start signal boosting qanon poo poo for every Bucky post so there can’t be any claim that posting so hard is doing “good”
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Excellent. Can you please name as many of these companies as possible. Preferably ones that specifically purport to operate in the "dark web". Helsing posted:I think that this entire exercise has run its course. You've been asked several times to not do this and you just cannot seem to help yourself.
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indiscriminately posted:Hey I know it's tough out there right now but please find a way to spend some time with people irl. Adopt a dog if you don't have one, take it for a long walk every day for a month. You gotta give yourself a break! Your posts here are not good for you and they're not good to read, you're stressing people out, and not for the reasons you think. Hey, indiscriminately, I'm genuinely concerned for your mental health. This isn't a sleight, I just think maybe you should take some time off, log off, let your brain cool. You're sounding all loony-tunes and crazy and anybody in their right mind is obviously going to outright dismiss the nonsense you're spewing as a result of your mental illness that I'm diagnosing in you and offering you medical advice about. Honestly, authentically, sincerely, and this is not at all ironic or meant to demonstrate anything.
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Uglycat posted:Hey, indiscriminately, I'm genuinely concerned for your mental health. This isn't a sleight, I just think maybe you should take some time off, log off, let your brain cool. You're sounding all loony-tunes and crazy and anybody in their right mind is obviously going to outright dismiss the nonsense you're spewing as a result of your mental illness that I'm diagnosing in you and offering you medical advice about. Honestly, authentically, sincerely, and this is not at all ironic or meant to demonstrate anything. Are you afraid we're trying to silence Bucky from spreading the truth, what point is this even trying to make.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Are you afraid we're trying to silence Bucky from spreading the truth, what point is this even trying to make. No, I'm genuinely concerend for indiscriminately's well-being, because I care about them as a human and I just think they should know that everything they write sounds completely crazypants. This isn't me trying to use a rhetorical device to undermine their posting, nor am I trying to gaslight them. Won't you please join me and cheerlead this sincere message I'm sharing so that indiscriminately might recieve the care they so obviously, desperately need?
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It blows my mind that part of the kindling that set this thing off was Hillary breaking her toe and needing a cast, which was taken as actually being an ankle monitor
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I'm glad that this thread seems to be moving beyond constant lists, demands that other posters provide lists to prove/disprove other lists, and accusations of gaslighting every 10 posts or so.The Chad Jihad posted:It blows my mind that part of the kindling that set this thing off was Hillary breaking her toe and needing a cast, which was taken as actually being an ankle monitor Yeah, being weirdly obsessed with Hillary's health during the 2016 election was, in hindsight, a massive factor in whether or not someone got Q-pilled afterwards. Believing she was secretly dying primed people for all sorts of dubious bullshit.
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Uglycat posted:In that interest, I have a document to share. It's a thread from whyweprotest.net, a site started by me and two other goons at the birth of Chanology as a somethingawful-style forum with a moderation policy that was inclusive of channers, goons, gaia users, ex-scientologists, and people from all corners of the internet that were down for destroying scientology. I'm the OP, user 'Consensus', and it's absolutely imperfect (and much will be familiar to readers of this thread), but it was an effort I made a decade ago to answer the very question you're bringing up. I think this is a good link, by the way. I didn't read the full thread but I read part of it. Knowledge of fundamental attribution error is partial inoculation against hatred, every person's life is improved simply by having the concept IMO. Two other takeaways about human behavior from the effortpost, relevant to the growth of QAnon:
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https://twitter.com/WilliamTurton/status/1304498734382936064
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RagnarokAngel posted:Are you afraid we're trying to silence Bucky from spreading the truth, what point is this even trying to make. He's a contrarian who is trying to do a tit for tat with people genuinely concerned with bucky's mental health telling him to log off for a bit and take a breath. That Qmap article was interesting, and points further to the 'organically arising by crazy people' theory. This is just some IT dude in charge of firewalls and poo poo at Citibank, not a funded operative or anything similar. He's committed to Trump's fascist ideology, and uses this as a basis for his beliefs.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:I'm glad that this thread seems to be moving beyond constant lists, demands that other posters provide lists to prove/disprove other lists, and accusations of gaslighting every 10 posts or so. its still pretty amazing how far down some of these people have spiraled. I could never have imagined this Q poo poo would spread like it has it's a widespread mental health crisis at this point imo and idk how the gently caress you begin to fix it
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Mackers posted:its still pretty amazing how far down some of these people have spiraled. I could never have imagined this Q poo poo would spread like it has Actually having something resembling public mental health treatment resources in this country would be a good start, but basically nobody gives a crap about the mentally ill in this country and our society has essentially nothing but contempt for them.
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You'd have to make it profitable under the current framework that society operates under, so treating mental illness will always fall under "Hahaha no" or "Eugenics? That's a bad word, I'd rather call it curing mental illness" unless something changes. We know a lot about the various causes and things that worsen mental illness and a lot of those things are still seen as good, valuable, or at least worth the cost.
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I'm totally in good faith and all honestly seriously concerned about Captain Monkey's mental health. I just care so much for my fellow goons, and his or her posting is making me very worried that they've completely lost their marbles. I can't even parse the gish-gallop gibberish they post! A long break from the internet and intense psychological treatment is surely in their best interest.
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Ratoslov posted:Actually having something resembling public mental health treatment resources in this country would be a good start, but basically nobody gives a crap about the mentally ill in this country and our society has essentially nothing but contempt for them. i'm seeing Qcults springing up in European countries now. including my own its totally an indictment of our mental health care and society. we took sense for granted and bombarded people with toxic bullshit and expected them to just be able to take it oh wow people lost their minds how could we have seen this coming
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I think if Facebook and YouTube were shut down it'd be a good place to start towards fixing this whole absurd Q situation.
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Mad Hamish posted:I think if Facebook and YouTube were shut down it'd be a good place to start towards fixing this whole absurd Q situation. like that's just not happening tho
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Mad Hamish posted:I think if Facebook and YouTube were shut down it'd be a good place to start towards fixing this whole absurd Q situation. True, social media has allowed this stuff to spread further and faster but weve had the internet for a while and this stuff is still fairly recently. Its pretty much the underlying conditions, everything's poo poo and everyone wants an answer. Q is there to offer it, vague as it may be.
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So the base problem is again inequality. A person permitted a secure lifestyle in the sense of, say, Maslow's hierarchy isn't much interested in conspiracy theories no matter the marketing spend or the trending topics because their attention goes to their friends/family and their creative work.
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I was asked to provide the points and I did. I agree that that discussion is not progressing and have no interest in taking it beyond that. Please can you just name some of these companies you mention. It might matter. And in the interest of good faith I think at least one person could please explain how Pizzagate and the Seth Rich Story came to be. It's all I ask and it's a pertinent question and I'll try to leave it there.
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Here is a tweet thread exploring the connections between these platforms: https://twitter.com/Redrum_of_Crows/status/1302763148672294912?s=20 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1302085096967532544.html And here is the article the bloomberg piece comes from which goes into excellent detail: https://www.logically.ai/articles/qanon-key-figure-man-from-new-jersey Mackers posted:its still pretty amazing how far down some of these people have spiraled. I could never have imagined this Q poo poo would spread like it has This article here is a perhaps a good place to start: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...Lyf7NQucZb-jWgQ
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https://twitter.com/jaynooch/status/1304410897172099072 https://twitter.com/jaynooch/status/1304428330272329728
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It doesn't look like it at first blush but I swear this is both amusing and becomes relevant : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44 (It's a long-form take on Flat Earthers that spins to talk about QAnon. And I've been following the dude for years and he's an engaging and good bread-tuber if you're into that.)
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Good news Q-anon followers in Oregon are clogging up 9-11 to report Q drops. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/tech/qanon-oregon-fire-conspiracy-theory/index.html I laughed when the police spokesman said "not arrest...anyone affiliated with...'proud boys'" as if the Portland Police would ever arrest anyone in the Proud Boys or as if they don't know who that is.
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Xiahou Dun posted:It doesn't look like it at first blush but I swear this is both amusing and becomes relevant : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44 As a rule I don’t watch youtube videos longer than an hour, but this one is good and probably Dan’s best. I had never really thought about how all the screaming racists in Kohl’s getting posted on twitter back in 2016 used the specific phrase “Trump is going to make you go away,” nor how that behavior fits into reactionary embrace of conspiracism. Eliminationism as epistemic closure makes so much sense.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:As a rule I don’t watch youtube videos longer than an hour, but this one is good and probably Dan’s best. I had never really thought about how all the screaming racists in Kohl’s getting posted on twitter back in 2016 used the specific phrase “Trump is going to make you go away,” nor how that behavior fits into reactionary embrace of conspiracism. Eliminationism as epistemic closure makes so much sense. If nothing else, that lake looks gorgeous and if the world doesn't end in hellfire and plague I'd like to hike around it.
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Xiahou Dun posted:It doesn't look like it at first blush but I swear this is both amusing and becomes relevant : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44 Yeah, that camera dip at the start was pretty amazing.
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Xiahou Dun posted:It doesn't look like it at first blush but I swear this is both amusing and becomes relevant : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44 Watched this last night and it's great. Thanks for sharing!
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Xiahou Dun posted:It doesn't look like it at first blush but I swear this is both amusing and becomes relevant : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44 I also watched this last night and it’s excellent — it puts into words something i was thinking the last time i did my own dive into flat-earth youtube. That the flat earth is not the craziest or even the most important thing that flat earthers believe.
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indiscriminately posted:So the base problem is again inequality. A person permitted a secure lifestyle in the sense of, say, Maslow's hierarchy isn't much interested in conspiracy theories no matter the marketing spend or the trending topics because their attention goes to their friends/family and their creative work. The base problem is that people are dummies.
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Here's today's newsletter from my favorite Qanon lady!quote:Today Trump referenced The Abraham Accord in his speech about the normalization of Israel and Bahrain. When he was speaking of The Abraham Accord, he stated this has been in the works a very very long time. She posts this babbling nonsense nonstop and has thousands of followers. It's baffling. It's also baffling that she's super worried about the child eating pedophile cabal yet she constantly posts pictures of her kids on social networks. New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Sep 13, 2020 |
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > #QAnon: Trump's hair also makes the Golden Ratio.
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Blue Moonlight posted:The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > #QAnon: Trump's hair also makes the Golden Ratio. Thank you for actually reading that to pull out this gem
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That particular paragraph is a remarkable sequence of words. If you read to the next sentence you learn that Trump's hair is God's finger print in all of creation. quote:Why is Israel so significant: remember Alice in Wonderland? Alice equals Hillary and Saudi Arabia was connected tightly to the Black Nobility J€su!t Order.. yep. And what was Hillary and Saudi Arabia doing? Child trafficking. Follow the White Rabbit? Israel is the White Rabbit, chasing time, running out of time. Israel also creates the Golden Ratio, the center point of the Golden Ratio lines up with Jerusalem, where the largest portal in the world exists. Trump's hair also makes the Golden Ratio. The Golden Ratio is God's finger print in all of creation. Israel also creates a White Rabbit and holds the organs of the human body. Further more Israel is believe to be the original location of Eden. Who are the White Rabbits, Cue asks? They are the Israelites.
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Chomposaur posted:Thank you for actually reading that to pull out this gem It's worth reading
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:She posts this babbling nonsense nonstop and has thousands of followers. It's baffling. It's also baffling that she's super worried about the child eating pedophile cabal yet she constantly posts pictures of her kids on social networks. This helps explain it. The “Conspiracy Narrative” has been weaponised by Conservative Capitalists to fight Collectivism since at least the end of WW1. This article puts it all in context, by going all the way back to the very beginning, to to make sense of what we’re seeing today, including how COVID has now been such an effective funnel to Qanon. It’s pretty big and full of links and sources if you want to dive deeper on any of it. Thank you to everyone who constructively contributed. Bucky Fullminster fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Sep 13, 2020 |
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