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Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

minema posted:

Occupational Health at the hospital have said that sharing a small office with positive covid colleague doesn't count as contact since we were both wearing masks. This is not the case in any other situation and I would have to isolate for 14 days if the same thing had happened anywhere else. They told me to stay in work and just to be extra cautious with social distancing which definitely feels like bullshit to me.

My Nurse flatmate still has to go to work because I haven't gotten my results back yet despite it being over 72 hours now.

The whole system is bullshit.

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Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


One down.

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1305836296519200769

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


quote:

He had forced the woman on to a sofa and groped her breast while trying to kiss her, before chasing her and chanting "I'm a naughty Tory", his trial had heard.



Yep this is about what I expect theyr like

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!




They really have proved to be one of the very few pleasant surprises of 2020.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

is this the one whose arrest was under anonymity? Or is there another? Any ideas who the secret one was if not this?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

lmao

https://twitter.com/SrColburn/status/1305831393289736193?s=20

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
If all MPs that were sex wrongs got jailed, and Westminster had agreed to remote voting during Covid, would the British gammon's hate of prisoners voting overrule their fear of government by Diane Abbott and whichever other dozen are left?

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

StarkingBarfish posted:

is this the one whose arrest was under anonymity? Or is there another? Any ideas who the secret one was if not this?

Pretty sure that's another one - multiple sex offenders in the Tory party, shocking, I know.

Nothing concrete as of yet, although from the list people narrowed down, it has been noticed a certain very Brexit vocal MP (who matched the criteria), has been suspiciously quiet, and out of the limelight as of late. This may or may not be linked. Who can say.


"Well, well, well, if it isn't the concequences of my own actions."

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Sep 15, 2020

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
scottish labour trying to wring out what little relevance they've got left with MSP's piling in on some young labour member for saying acab

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

crispix posted:

lol gently caress up

Thing about a peace process is it shouldn't come down to rolling dice

I was obviously being a little flippant.

More properly: is the political landscape of NI, particularly given Brexit, currently such that a border poll would return a solid democratic mandate for reunification, if so does this not present a rare, excellent opportunity for republican parties to fulfil their primary objective peacefully and according to the terms of the GFA, and as result might they consider it foolish to pass up on.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Sep 15, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The most recent polls show that most of GB thinks there should be a border poll and most of NI thinks they should remain in the UK.

If they did it county by county that'd be more of a :can:

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Pesky Splinter posted:

Pretty sure that's another one - multiple sex offenders in the Tory party, shocking, I know.

Nothing concrete as of yet, although from the list people narrowed down, it has been noticed a certain very Brexit vocal MP (who matched the criteria), has been suspiciously quiet, and out of the limelight as of late. This may or may not be linked. Who can say.


"Well, well, well, if it isn't the concequences of my own actions."

the legal aid stuff is completely insane and one of many enormous crises being ignored because the media class can simply sell one of their homes.
oh his wife loaned him £100,000? lucky she had that lying around

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
around the last brexit crisis the polling was jusst about over threshold, can't rememeber the exact numbers but a majority were in favor of reunification for the first time ever.

I don't think sinn fein would push for it now while negotiations are ongoing, because there's still a risk that 'wait and see' would be a strong enough counter campaign for them to lose and have it kicked into the long grass. Remember, the shinners *want* a united ireland above all else, they don't want it simply because it solves some economic issues between the north and south that may be resolvable by other means.

Edit: numbers here look like it's the other way round although I don't know how reputable LucidTalk are:

https://thedetail.tv/articles/a-majority-favour-a-border-poll-on-the-island-of-ireland-in-the-next-10-years

StarkingBarfish fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Sep 15, 2020

cormac
Dec 18, 2005



ThomasPaine posted:


is the political landscape of NI, particularly given Brexit, currently such that a border poll would return a solid democratic mandate for reunification

Almost certainly not. Recent polls have been close, with occasional ones showing a small majority for reunification, but none of them seem to ask what reunification would look like.

If there was a border poll tomorrow without a clear plan for post reunification arrangements I can't see it passing. The fear mongering over things like losing access to the NHS and the money spent by westminster in NI would probably doom any attempt at reunification without those questions being settled in advance.

The DUP know this and are not going to sit down with anyone to discuss constitutional arrangements for a united Ireland.

Mesopotamia
Apr 12, 2010

StarkingBarfish posted:

is this the one whose arrest was under anonymity? Or is there another? Any ideas who the secret one was if not this?

It's another one. Will Self might know.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Wait I know this was only a small point in your post but surely Ireland has universal healthcare equivalent to the UK even if it's not set up quite the same way?

Aipsh
Feb 17, 2006


GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT

ThomasPaine posted:

Wait I know this was only a small point in your post but surely Ireland has universal healthcare equivalent to the UK even if it's not set up quite the same way?

Nope. Honestly it's kinda bad in ROI.

There has been talk for ages of setting up universal healthcare (called Sláintecare) but it's going sloooowly

cormac
Dec 18, 2005



More or less, but not to the same level as the NHS. GP visits cost about €50-60, prescriptions and most dental stuff costs money, A&E costs about €100 but you won't get charged more than that if you have to stay in overnight or whatever.

If you're over 70 or on a very low income or have a serious enough condition you can apply for a medical card which covers all of the above

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Jose posted:

scottish labour trying to wring out what little relevance they've got left with MSP's piling in on some young labour member for saying acab

just a really great look of a bunch of older sensible white (mostly) people condemning a non-white kid for daring to question our brave and hardworking police forces, admirable and progressive, these guys know what's up

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


The NHS, by design after 10 years of the tories, seems pretty lovely.

My GF had an ear infection flare up while visiting my family on a Greek island. NHS online basically said that it's glue ear and can't be treated you just have to wait 6 months and if you go deaf they'll treat you.
She'd been waiting for an appointment from a specialist for about 3 months at this point.

We went to a greek ETwhatever specialist that same day by just walking into his office who had a very fancy degree from Italy.
He gave her some pills and told her to chew gum and it cleared up in a week.
We gave him 40 euros and he gave us a free checkup before we flew off the next week.

When we went back to the UK we still couldn't see a specialist but the GP was extremely dismissive of the medication that had worked and essentially just gave the same line that nothing works and you should come back when you're deaf.
(incidentally I have cysts on my skull and that's what they told me, come back when it gets disfiguring)

I guess rhe whole system is so stretched bare that it's just triaging everyone in the hope they don't have to treat anyone

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Pesky Splinter posted:

Nothing concrete as of yet, although from the list people narrowed down, it has been noticed a certain very Brexit vocal MP (who matched the criteria), has been suspiciously quiet, and out of the limelight as of late. This may or may not be linked. Who can say.

Also very (very) quietly removed as Chair of the ERG after only 6 months and replaced with zero statement from the ERG.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Communist Thoughts posted:

the legal aid stuff is completely insane and one of many enormous crises being ignored because the media class can simply sell one of their homes.
oh his wife loaned him £100,000? lucky she had that lying around
In buying a house, the complete change in attitude from estate agents when we say we have a 100k down payment* and mortgage in principle is astonishing. I called a dude yesterday and he went from 'preparing to tell me to gently caress off' to 'couldn't be more helpful' and telling us what a wonderful time it is to be buying a house in the space of realising we had money.

But otherwise, that would be an unimaginable amount of money. It's like Rachel Riley ratfucking multiple people knowing that they can't afford to keep the action going or get legal aid, whereas she is covered by insurance and no-win no-fee structures that staggeringly weight the current justice system toward the rich.


* Wife's mum died of cancer, left house to wife and sister-in-law, who is getting a mortgage to buy out our half, which we are using as a down payment to buy a house to live in, before we get accused of being booj.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I love how the twentieth century history of Ireland is just one gigantic warning about the dangers of assuming anti-colonial movements must by definition be either left-wing or progressive.

Yes, I cry about the PIRA/OIRA split to this day.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

Lungboy posted:

Also very (very) quietly removed as Chair of the ERG after only 6 months and replaced with zero statement from the ERG.
By coincidence, I did a search for #superinjunction on Twitter today, and this very vocal Brexiteer's name came up (as well as the senior Tory MP with relationship problems you'd probably expect).

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ThomasPaine posted:

I love how the twentieth century history of Ireland is just one gigantic warning about the dangers of assuming anti-colonial movements must by definition be either left-wing or progressive.
:geert::vuvu:

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

check out the cached version of the guardian's article on it

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Payndz posted:

By coincidence, I did a search for #superinjunction on Twitter today, and this very vocal Brexiteer's name came up (as well as the senior Tory MP with relationship problems you'd probably expect).

I can only find one vague mention of the ERG in relation to #superinjunction, my search powers are weak today.

The Elphicke thing seems a bit of a con. His wife nabbed his seat from him, divorced him over the sexual assaults, lent him £100k and is now standing by him. That seems, *unusual* to say the least.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Communist Thoughts posted:

The NHS, by design after 10 years of the tories, seems pretty lovely.

My GF had an ear infection flare up while visiting my family on a Greek island. NHS online basically said that it's glue ear and can't be treated you just have to wait 6 months and if you go deaf they'll treat you.
She'd been waiting for an appointment from a specialist for about 3 months at this point.

We went to a greek ETwhatever specialist that same day by just walking into his office who had a very fancy degree from Italy.
He gave her some pills and told her to chew gum and it cleared up in a week.
We gave him 40 euros and he gave us a free checkup before we flew off the next week.

When we went back to the UK we still couldn't see a specialist but the GP was extremely dismissive of the medication that had worked and essentially just gave the same line that nothing works and you should come back when you're deaf.
(incidentally I have cysts on my skull and that's what they told me, come back when it gets disfiguring)

I guess rhe whole system is so stretched bare that it's just triaging everyone in the hope they don't have to treat anyone

I have a similar experience with ear infections except that I take cinnarizine for them, it would be correct to say it doesn't do anything to fix your ear, it just suppresses the resultant dizziness, it's seasickness medication.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Lungboy posted:

I can only find one vague mention of the ERG in relation to #superinjunction, my search powers are weak today.

The Elphicke thing seems a bit of a con. His wife nabbed his seat from him, divorced him over the sexual assaults, lent him £100k and is now standing by him. That seems, *unusual* to say the least.

She's very much behaving like someone who isnt surprised


aside, the guardian completely rewrote their coverage in the last half hour or so to remove all criticism of the tory party, so I'm just going to paste the cached version below for posterity and future citing, apologies.


"Censored guardian journo of this this article posted:

The former Conservative MP Charlie Elphicke has been sentenced to two years in prison after being found guilty of three counts of sexual assault against two women.

Elphicke, who represented the Kent constituency of Dover from 2010 until last year, was convicted in July of the charges, two in relation to a parliamentary worker in 2016 and one in relation to a woman at his family’s central London home in 2007.

“You are a sexual predator who used your success and respectability as cover,” he was told by Mrs Justice Whipple as she passed sentence at Southwark Crown Court.

His first victim had suffered a “terrifying episode” when he chased her around his home chanting “I’m a naughty Tory” after assaulting her, said the judge, who added that she considered whether or not to impose a custodial sentence but had come to the conclusion that it was the only appropriate punlishment.

Of the two offences against the second victim, who was a young Parliamentary worker at the time, she said: “This was a campaign of harassment, it required planning to get her alone with you.”

Elphicke lost the Tory whip in 2017 when the allegations were referred to the police, but was reinstated in December 2018 before a vote of confidence in the then prime minister, Theresa May.

Giving evidence at his trial at Southwark crown court during the summer, Elphicke admitted not telling police the truth when they asked him about one of the women he was accused of sexually assaulting, saying he feared it would destroy his marriage.

The father of two also said he tried to keep his affair with another woman secret from his wife, Natalie, because he did not think his marriage would survive. The woman was not one of the complainants in the trial.

In victim impact statements read out in court on Tuesday, one of the women he assaulted spoke of how he had crushed a part of her spirit.

The woman, who was a young parliamentary worker at the time, spoke of a “flood of pain” entering her thoughts when she recalled what Elphicke did to her.

“Helpless, depressed beaten, vulnerable and constantly scared. “This is my attempt to articulate the lasting impact he has had on me,” said the young woman, who gave evidence in court earlier this year.

The other woman said in her statement that as a result of her ordeal she suffered significantly increased anxiety when meeting any man, whether it be her local butcher, a taxi driver or any other.

“I feel like things I once enjoyed have been taken away from me,” she said, giving the example of her previous love of dancing.

Eloise Marshall QC, prosecuting, addressed the court on a number of aggravating factors, which cannot be reported in full in case they lead to the identification of the women who were assaulted.

Marshall said that in one of the assaults skin-to-skin contact had definitely taken place, while in the other there was an attempt by the then MP to “get under the clothes” of the woman.

Elphicke’s wife, who ran for office and became the Conservative MP for Dover after her husband did not stand in 2019, had accompanied him to the trial on some days but announced their marriage was ending after the verdict was returned.

The Guardian reported in August that a cabinet minister had lobbied the prime minister to help Elphicke after the then MP was charged with sexual assault. Elphicke is understood to have asked cabinet ministers to help him after the allegations were referred to the police in 2017.

The woman who was a parliamentary worker at the time when she was assaulted, said in a victim impact statement which was read out to the court that Elphicke had “crushed a part of my spirit.”

She woman spoke of a “flood of pain” which came into her thoughts when she recalled what Elphicke did to her: “helpless, depressed beaten, vulnerable and constantly scare.

“This is my attempt to articulate the lasting impact he has had on me.” added the young women, who gave evidence in court earlier this year.

The other woman said in her statement she had significantly increased anxiety when meeting any man as a result of her ordeal, whether it was her local butcher, taxi driver or any other.

“I feel like things I once enjoyed have been taken away from me,” she said, instancing her previous love of dancing.

Eloise Marshall QC said that although he had no previous convictions at the time when he assaulted the young parliamentary worker, he had already assaulted the other woman. Judge Deborah Taylor agreed that Elphicke could not derive any benefit from not having any previous conviction and “could not put himself forward as a man of good character.”

Mrs Justice Whipple said that Elphicke had undertook some form of introspection but fell short of acceptance in terms of what he had done.

Ian Winter QC, who defended Elphicke during the trial, said before sentencing was passed: “Shortly, Mr Elphicke’s descent into total disgrace will be complete”

His son, 13, has experience sustained and and quite vicious bullying at school, being told his father was a rapist. The boy’s primary carer now was Elphicke, who Winter said had also lost his job, his wife and what he described as a successful political career.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
In other news, I don't know if this has been posted but I was reading about this guy in the states who has been suspended from his job for using the n-word in class, only he didn't at all do that. He was explaining filler words in different languages, and was using 那个, which is roughly pronounced 'nah-geh' and is directly translated as 'that' or 'that one', but which is often used in Chinese the same way we would say 'um' or 'ah' when we're thinking while speaking. Obviously this does sound very similar to the slur in English and apparently it takes quite a lot of getting used if you go to China, especially if you're black, which is understandable. But it's a different language and it's not even a remotely related one so it's insane to get precious about a word that sounds vaguely similar to an unpleasant one in your own. If anything, it's loving arrogant and kinda imperialist thinking in itself, but yeah.

So this guy uses 那个 in class and some people freak out about it. This should have been a non-issue that was laughed out of the room because it's not the same language and sounds mean different things in different languages but inexplicably the university has come down on the tutor and he's no longer teaching this semester with the implication that he is in Big Trouble. They even released a statement apologising profusely for the incident and to anyone affected and reiterating all their zero tolerance policies towards bigotry etc as if that was relevant? I guess it's now racist to speak Chinese! It genuinely feels like the worst kind of terminally online 'so woke we're endorsing ethnostates' garbage but terrifyingly transplanted into real life and it's... unsettling.

I dunno, this really got me because it feels like the kind of dumb bullshit reactionaries like to pretend left-wingers are all about and it feeds into all their stupid stereotypes and caricatures. I almost hope it's a false flag and the students complaining were a bunch of alt-right edgelords (though even that wouldn't excuse the uni's response) but American liberals do like the smell of their own farts so who the gently caress knows.

e: yeah it's the BBC but just for confirmation that it's a thing that actually did, apparently, happen outside the fevered imaginations of MAGA idiots
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-54107329

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Sep 15, 2020

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


OwlFancier posted:

I have a similar experience with ear infections except that I take cinnarizine for them, it would be correct to say it doesn't do anything to fix your ear, it just suppresses the resultant dizziness, it's seasickness medication.

in this case it was a clogged ear so she was basically entirely deaf since she already has one deaf ear

the medicine unclogged it and she could hear again, it coulda been a huge coincidence and the medicine did nothing but all i know is the NHS said it couldnt be fixed then a hairy, chain-smoking greek doctor gave her medication and it got fixed that week while the NHS gp scoffed

e: the greek doc was also animatedly angry about her other, deaf ear, which had also been "treated" in the UK and is apparently completely hosed up

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

gh0stpinballa posted:

enjoying the guardian's ongoing fictional narrative where the tories are forever on the verge of imploding over brexit, and boris is forever about to shock us all and discover his inner social progressive, and unnamed senior tories are always about to step in any day now and restore common sense politics to the party. this serial has been running for 4 years now, keeping us all on the edge of our seats.

It annoys the hell out of me. Johnson's got a majority of 80, he can do what the hell he wants and there's no way the centrist milquetoasts that've taken over the Labour Party are going to mount any sort of robust opposition. Stop with the drat fanfiction that the 'grown-ups' just might be poised to step in and take back control.

And don't get me started on Comment is Free. All those columnists that spent 5 years making GBS threads all over left-wing Labour now clutching their pearls and weeping crocodile tears over the iniquities of the Tories who they helped to install. Yeah, I'm mad.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

OwlFancier posted:

I have a similar experience with ear infections except that I take cinnarizine for them, it would be correct to say it doesn't do anything to fix your ear, it just suppresses the resultant dizziness, it's seasickness medication.

I take that too (well Stugeron - same thing.) I had labyrinthitis many moons ago and since then whenever I get a bad cold or am under extreme stress, I get dizzy and stugeron sorts me out.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yeah labyrinthitis is what I get occasionally. It's a clever drug.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

ThomasPaine posted:

In other news, I don't know if this has been posted but I was reading about this guy in the states who has been suspended from his job for using the n-word in class, only he didn't at all do that. He was explaining filler words in different languages, and was using 那个, which is roughly pronounced 'nah-geh' and is directly translated as 'that' or 'that one', but which is often used in Chinese the same way we would say 'um' or 'ah' when we're thinking while speaking. Obviously this does sound very similar to the slur in English and apparently it takes quite a lot of getting used if you go to China, especially if you're black, which is understandable. But it's a different language and it's not even a remotely related one so it's insane to get precious about a word that sounds vaguely similar to an unpleasant one in your own. If anything, it's loving arrogant and kinda imperialist thinking in itself, but yeah.

So this guy uses 那个 in class and some people freak out about it. This should have been a non-issue that was laughed out of the room because it's not the same language and sounds mean different things in different languages but inexplicably the university has come down on the tutor and he's no longer teaching this semester with the implication that he is in Big Trouble. They even released a statement apologising profusely for the incident and to anyone affected and reiterating all their zero tolerance policies towards bigotry etc as if that was relevant? I guess it's now racist to speak Chinese! It genuinely feels like the worst kind of terminally online 'so woke we're endorsing ethnostates' garbage but terrifyingly transplanted into real life and it's... unsettling.

I dunno, this really got me because it feels like the kind of dumb bullshit reactionaries like to pretend left-wingers are all about and it feeds into all their stupid stereotypes and caricatures. I almost hope it's a false flag and the students complaining were a bunch of alt-right edgelords (though even that wouldn't excuse the uni's response) but American liberals do like the smell of their own farts so who the gently caress knows.

e: yeah it's the BBC but just for confirmation that it's a thing that actually did, apparently, happen outside the fevered imaginations of MAGA idiots
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-54107329

It's loving wild. When I first started going out with my now-fiance and I heard her speaking Cantonese to her parents I picked up on it and it was funny in a "ha that word sounds like a bad word" way (similar to Mong Kok and Sha Tin, locations in Hong Kong for anyone who doesn't know). But it was quite clear they weren't using a slur and now I tune it out the same way you would anyone saying "uh" or "um".

Is... is this political correctness gone mad?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The US also has a history of edgelord assholes using words like niggardly, which is etymologically unrelated to the slur, on purpose to get a reaction.

That doesn't sound anything like what was happening here, but it might explain why people were quicker to take offense. It could have been a valid cultural exchange moment rather than a big incident though, especially in an academic setting.

Then again the US also had a go at Adele for dressing up for some kind of virtual Caribbean carnival event and accused her of cultural appropriation, which led to a bunch of Jamaican and Black British people responding that Carnival is for everyone as long as they're participating in the spirit, and it's not loving blackface, so there's obviously some very different debates going on there.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

ThomasPaine posted:

In other news, I don't know if this has been posted...

Given their reputation, I suspect it ultimately comes down to them being verrrry jittery about any more bad publicity:

quote:

How USC Became the Most Scandal-Plagued Campus in America
Once known as the University of Spoiled Children, USC has had a hard time growing up...

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/usc-scandals-cover/


(Obviously, it's not worked in this case.)

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Labyrinthitis is what I claim to have when I have to sit down for a while after looking directly at David Bowie's groin

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's called that because you have a spiral coil in your ear in the manner of an old timey labyrinth.

Also it gives Junji Ito some Thoughts.

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Pistol_Pete posted:

It annoys the hell out of me. Johnson's got a majority of 80, he can do what the hell he wants and there's no way the centrist milquetoasts that've taken over the Labour Party are going to mount any sort of robust opposition. Stop with the drat fanfiction that the 'grown-ups' just might be poised to step in and take back control.

And don't get me started on Comment is Free. All those columnists that spent 5 years making GBS threads all over left-wing Labour now clutching their pearls and weeping crocodile tears over the iniquities of the Tories who they helped to install. Yeah, I'm mad.

thats basically the job. the whole of journalism is just this content production industry featuring rich liars asking questions to other rich liars and printing their responses.
thats really all it is and any idea of it being socially useful or some kind of mechanism to hold the powerful to account is just childish kayfabe
for the journos its makework for poshos and for the owners its a way to propagandise and pressure their other rich mates

i think this kind of magical thinking basically infests most of british society where we assume things work even when there is no real mechanism to make them work.
like right now there is no mechanism to remove bojo, its entirely up to him and the tory party.

its like the cummings thing where the whole news was out for his blood but they don't actually have any power and the UK is run like a monarchy so by design there is no way for public pressure to influence the government, outside of once every 5 years the government gets to choose when to call an election in which 70% of the votes go in the bin cos oops 1% more people voted for a diff party in your region

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